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                        I'm back with some pictures...

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                        Dwight Ta-ala
                        • Member since
                          July 2003
                        • From: Philippines
                        I'm back with some pictures...
                        Posted by Dwight Ta-ala on Monday, October 20, 2003 10:44 PM
                        Hi guys,

                        Finally, I am back in the civilized part of the country. As I have mentioned previously, here are some pictures of the guns displayed in front of the air base I visited.

                        This is a 105mm Howitzer.









                        I don't know what this is but probably a sort of bofors 40mm anti-aircraft gun.










                        Hope these will be of use...Wink [;)]

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                        Anonymous
                        • Member since
                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Monday, October 20, 2003 10:52 PM
                        That's cool Dwight. Where did you go to take these pictures?
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                        Dwight Ta-ala
                        • Member since
                          July 2003
                        • From: Philippines
                        Posted by Dwight Ta-ala on Monday, October 20, 2003 11:35 PM
                        I was on a site inspection trip for a proposed expressway project to connect two former US bases somewhere north. These bases are now industrial zones with international airports. The Phil. Air Force is occupying one of the bases. It is where I got the pics. There are some aircrafts displayed also but these were in bad condition already. I'll post pics of them next time.

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                        tigerman
                        • Member since
                          March 2003
                        • From: Rain USA, Vancouver WA
                        Posted by tigerman on Monday, October 20, 2003 11:38 PM
                        Nice to have you back Dwight. Neat pics. That second gun looks more like 20mm to me. Can't say I've seen anything like them. Thanks for sharing.

                        "It is well that war is so terrible, lest we grow too fond of it."-R.E.Lee

                        http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y269/wing_nut_5o/PANZERJAGERGB.jpg

                         Eric 

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                        Dwight Ta-ala
                        • Member since
                          July 2003
                        • From: Philippines
                        Posted by Dwight Ta-ala on Monday, October 20, 2003 11:46 PM
                        Sorry Tigerman, I never tried to measure the diameter of the barrel. There's also no name or identification plate around it.

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                        Anonymous
                        • Member since
                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Monday, October 20, 2003 11:54 PM
                        The bottom gun looks like a chinese copy of the German 2cm flack gun design. Maybe someone that knows for sure will confirm it :)

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                        shermanfreak
                        • Member since
                          January 2003
                        Posted by shermanfreak on Tuesday, October 21, 2003 12:07 AM
                        Great pics Dwight. I'm not sure what the second gun is but I don't think it's a Bofors. It certainly does have a German look to it.

                        Thanks for sharing.
                        Happy Modelling and God Bless Robert
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                        Dwight Ta-ala
                        • Member since
                          July 2003
                        • From: Philippines
                        Posted by Dwight Ta-ala on Tuesday, October 21, 2003 12:12 AM
                        Chinese? or German? That's strange. I mean we never have any military hardware from China or Germany. Mostly we get these stuff from the US.

                        Well, anyway you could be right, too.

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                        shermanfreak
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                          January 2003
                        Posted by shermanfreak on Tuesday, October 21, 2003 12:23 AM
                        Poor manners on my part ..... welcome back Dwight.
                        Happy Modelling and God Bless Robert
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                        Dwight Ta-ala
                        • Member since
                          July 2003
                        • From: Philippines
                        Posted by Dwight Ta-ala on Tuesday, October 21, 2003 12:44 AM
                        Thanks, Sherm.

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                        djmodels1999
                        • Member since
                          December 2002
                        • From: United Kingdom / Belgium
                        Posted by djmodels1999 on Tuesday, October 21, 2003 1:56 AM
                        Hey Dwight, did you wander any closer to those 'planes too???
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                        Dwight Ta-ala
                        • Member since
                          July 2003
                        • From: Philippines
                        Posted by Dwight Ta-ala on Tuesday, October 21, 2003 2:06 AM
                        Yes, DJ. Got some pics but not so good. There was a UH-1 helo, an Crusader, an F-5A, a pedestal mounted F-80 and I think a T-37? I'll post the pics if you like but I did not get close-up pics.

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                        J-Hulk
                        • Member since
                          February 2003
                        • From: Tochigi, Japan
                        Posted by J-Hulk on Tuesday, October 21, 2003 5:52 AM
                        Welcome back, Dwight.
                        Did you have a productive trip?
                        Thanks for posting the pix!
                        ~Brian
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                        styrene
                        • Member since
                          May 2003
                        • From: The flat lands of the Southeast
                        Posted by styrene on Tuesday, October 21, 2003 6:04 AM
                        Let me guess, you photochopped your Italeri 1/35 105mm howitzer into the weeds, didn't you? Nice pics, Dwight!
                        Gip Winecoff

                        1882: "God is dead"--F. Nietzsche

                        1900: "Nietzsche is dead"--God

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                        erush
                        • Member since
                          May 2003
                        • From: USA, GA
                        Posted by erush on Tuesday, October 21, 2003 6:37 AM
                        Welcome back Dwight. Glad you had a good tour and got to do a little photo research in the process! Good pics.

                        Eric
                        Hi, I'm Eric and I'm a Modelholic too. I think I have PE poisioning. "Friendly fire...isn't"
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                        Anonymous
                        • Member since
                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, October 21, 2003 7:28 AM
                        Welcome back Dwight! That second gun is a double barreled what's-it that incorporates the doovermahiggie loading system.... got me what it is too. Remember, if they relocate these to the junk yard to make room for construction, you get them moved into your back yard!

                        Ron.
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                        maddafinga
                        • Member since
                          March 2003
                        • From: Broken Arrow, Oklahoma
                        Posted by maddafinga on Tuesday, October 21, 2003 7:57 AM
                        Dwight, those pics of the 105 are great. I've got an Italieri M-7 Priest that I'm picking away at, and they'll help a great deal. I'm not going full bore on it, because I want it to be perfect, and my skills aren't there yet. Work does progress though, and I really appreciate the pics. Did you enjoy your trip?

                        madda
                        Madda Trifles make perfection, but perfection is no trifle. -- Leonardo Da Vinci Tact is for those who lack the wit for sarcasm.--maddafinga
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                        djmodels1999
                        • Member since
                          December 2002
                        • From: United Kingdom / Belgium
                        Posted by djmodels1999 on Tuesday, October 21, 2003 8:06 AM
                        Pics of the Cruz would be cool! you can e-mail me if you prefer.. djmodels1999@aol.com

                        Many thanks,

                        Domi
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                        Ray Marotta
                        • Member since
                          December 2002
                        • From: Lyons Colorado, USA
                        Posted by Ray Marotta on Tuesday, October 21, 2003 8:50 AM
                        That second gun looks like a Russian 23mm anti-aircraft gun or a Chinese licence-built version.
                        Our old friend, Mr. Charlie had lots of them.
                        Ray

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                        wipw
                        • Member since
                          January 2003
                        • From: Utah - USA
                        Posted by wipw on Tuesday, October 21, 2003 9:30 AM
                        Welcome back Dwight. We've missed hearing from you. Thanks for the pics.

                        Bill
                        Bill ========================================================== DML M4A2 Red Army ========================================================== ========================================================== -- There is a fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness". (Author unknown)
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                        Dwight Ta-ala
                        • Member since
                          July 2003
                        • From: Philippines
                        Posted by Dwight Ta-ala on Tuesday, October 21, 2003 6:25 PM
                        QUOTE: Did you have a productive trip?


                        Yes, J-hulk and a free tan and insect bites, too.

                        QUOTE: Remember, if they relocate these to the junk yard to make room for construction, you get them moved into your back yard!


                        Ron, how I wish I can take these stuff home but these are not affected by the proposed expressway.

                        QUOTE: Pics of the Cruz would be cool! you can e-mail me if you prefer..


                        DJ, I'll e-mail it to you but it's not very good. I only have one full-body shot and not close-ups. Most of the outside parts of the planes have been already stripped as well as the engines.

                        Thanks to everyone.

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                        Dwight Ta-ala
                        • Member since
                          July 2003
                        • From: Philippines
                        Posted by Dwight Ta-ala on Tuesday, October 21, 2003 6:40 PM
                        QUOTE: Let me guess, you photochopped your Italeri 1/35 105mm howitzer into the weeds, didn't you?


                        Ha-ha-ha. Boy, is it hard to get away with something like this nowadays. LOL.

                        QUOTE: Did you enjoy your trip?


                        Sure did madda. Actually the base was the second choice for the landing of Pres. Bush's Air Force One for the Oct 18 visit. A lot of secret service guys were in the hotel with us. Unfortunately, Air Force One landed in Manila.

                        QUOTE: That second gun looks like a Russian 23mm anti-aircraft gun or a Chinese licence-built version.


                        It could be, Ray. Actually I just noticed the star on the left box. This is basically a Russian or Chinese insignia. The Philippine Army or Air Force do not use this sign. I am just wandering how we got one of these. I checked it out and we do have bofors AA guns but it's the navy who uses them. The air force uses the 20mm U.S. made AA guns.

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                        Anonymous
                        • Member since
                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, October 21, 2003 7:13 PM
                        The star was why I guessed chinese copy for it. That star looks like a norinco stamp on all the chinese copies that I have seen. Just my guess.... would be nice to find out :)

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                        Anonymous
                        • Member since
                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, October 22, 2003 5:09 PM
                        Nice pix Dwight. Where'd you get this, Clark or Subic? I haven't been around these places when I was still there. Anyway, nice to have you back.Big Smile [:D]
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                        Anonymous
                        • Member since
                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, October 22, 2003 5:13 PM
                        yo guys im new,what is the rank for and how does it go up???????????


                        from=panzer striker
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                        shermanfreak
                        • Member since
                          January 2003
                        Posted by shermanfreak on Wednesday, October 22, 2003 5:18 PM
                        Welcome to the Armour Forum panzer striker. Good to have you join us.

                        The ranking system is based on the number of posts that you make.
                        Don't worry ... a few more posts and you'll no longer be "snap-together".
                        Happy Modelling and God Bless Robert
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                        lizardqing
                        • Member since
                          July 2003
                        • From: Dahlonega, Georgia
                        Posted by lizardqing on Wednesday, October 22, 2003 5:49 PM
                        Welcome back Dwight, nice pics too. Allthough it makes me feel bad that a piece of arty thats been sitting around for who knows how long has better tires than I've had on some of my cars.
                        Chris The Scale Firehouse The Lizard's Workshop
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                        Anonymous
                        • Member since
                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, October 22, 2003 6:10 PM
                        I believe the AA guns are of the same type as used at Udorn RTAFB in the 60's or 70's, possibly eastern block manufacture(note star stamped in ammo boxQuestion [?] lid).
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                        Dwight Ta-ala
                        • Member since
                          July 2003
                        • From: Philippines
                        Posted by Dwight Ta-ala on Wednesday, October 22, 2003 6:36 PM
                        Alex: I got these from Clark AFB. These were relocated from Villamor AFB in Manila.

                        Chris: Most of the 105's here get a lot of action in fighting with the rebels down south and the military is good in keeping them in shape. Besides, these 105's are very old and withouth proper maintenance they would be worthless.

                        Derek: That AA gun is really puzzling me, maybe you are correct.

                        Thanks guys.

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                        Anonymous
                        • Member since
                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, October 23, 2003 7:38 AM
                        QUOTE: Originally posted by panzer striker

                        yo guys im new,what is the rank for and how does it go up???????????


                        from=panzer striker


                        I've heard the rank goes from snap together to 'god' (no not 'the' God, just 'a' god... I think 'Sherm' is close to the latter by now. He'll make it instantly if he invites us all to the buffet he's hosting. (at least I heard he was hosting one!)

                        Ron.
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