25PDR. field gun & quad gun tractor "PIC"

WOW VERY COOL BUILD T-rex

Clay

very nice, im working on one of these also . just finished assembly and getting ready for paint

Fair enough, just not something I had come across.

Most of my experience is just WW2 related, from living history perspective, As far as i know stable belts weren't worn in action during WW2.

My grandfather served with RA HAA and never mentioned it, tho he did say it was nice have a front line 10 miles apart;)

Penance wrote:

Was the stable belt ever worn in theatre or on exercise?

Depends on the unit - especially the tastes of the individual Battery Sergeant Major. RA troops seemed especially proud of them and, when I was in, in the late '70s - early '80s, wore them whenever they could. I've certainly seen them worn on exercise. Artillery prefer not to get too near the front line if they can help it, remember!

Remember that the Quad and the 25pdr served with the British army well into the 1960s, and, in some TA units, beyond.

Cheers,

Chris.

Dar I forgot to paint details on the figure, dam!

Well you can barley see the figure but ill try with just dark yellow like the bag stape.

I added some future on the headlights looks better but the over all looks great.

 Hi T-rex,

not too bad at all in the end. The tarpaulins on the gun breech and the limber are great improvements.

A few of points you might like to think about. First, if you apply a few coats of Future to the headlight lenses, they'll look more like glazed headlights and less like pieces of plastic painted silver. Second, I think that dry-brushing the tyre treads with dark grey paint might add contrst and realism. When off-road vehicles have got muddy, and are then driven onto metalled roads, the mud comes off the tread first. Like this:

though I'll happily concede that there are plenty of instances where the tyres will be muddy all over, as you have them, too.

Finally, if you can, it might be an idea to paint the driver's belt a different colour. Khaki drab would be good, or maybe even a Royal Artilley stable belt (very popular with the troops) like this:

Cheers,

Chris.

YES! It's done 2nd best model next to the Hanomag and the weathering looks good, I took out my pastel pixel and add lots of mud, rust and smoke gray. Penance I repainted the figure Kakia green a color a haven't use before and added the tarp. It will be on display at the western model contest in Calgary this May. Critic welcome.

Thanks for all your help guys

First, sorry about my reply above, was in a hurry last night and it comes across a bit curt.

I am talking from experience regarding webbing sets, i have 3 original, one un-blanco'd, one blanco'd early pea green and one later darker green. The one item generally not blanco'd was the GMB.

I have access to 4 quads with guns and limbers, all have green canvas seating and all date between 41 and 45. Granted it is only 4 tho.

The colour of the back pack/rucksack used for stowage is wrong. I can tell you from experince that '37 webbing large and small packs came in all sorts of colours, khaki, khaki drill, khaki drab, or blancoe'd to an almost chalk-clay colour if you were on basic training! Check with piccies of the real thing.

The seat covers in the quad would be a green canvas,  Again, I've seen lots of different green, tan, and khaki colours for the seat covers in British military vehicles. They may have left the factory in green, but they didn't always stay that way for long.

Something that Tamiya have omitted, the wheel platform under the gun carriage should have chains holding it to the carriage. Not really something that could have been achieved with 1970s injection-moulding technology. Easy enough to add fine-gauge real-life chain, easily available through LHSs selling wooden ship models, or through jewellers (sometimes cheaper, even in 9ct. gold), though.

T-Rex, you might want to do something about the colour of the driver's uniform. A khaki drill colour would be much more likely. Like this:

or this:

Cheers,

Chris.

Seems alot of errors on this model, well the instruction manual said to glue down the bags, i'll use some sowing rope and rap around the bags. As for the tarp I have use the wet nakin thecnique once for a diorama, and wanted to use it for this model (the tarp on the truck roof) but the kit tarp was good enough, but the main reason I don't want to put the tarp is it will cover the details that I work hard on. Some are asking too much but this is almost completely out of the box, except the head light stade, they didn't fit so I scharchbuild some.

Anyways, I got the futur coat on then the windows and decals on, I also started on the figure.

This is before i install the rope, but I think i'm forgeting a step before starting weathering.

The colour of the back pack/rucksack used for stowage is wrong. While the colour is correct for for basic issue, it would of been coloured with blanco, a pea green colour for early war or a darker olive type colour for later. The only time they were left uncoloured was in North Africa, but the green colour you have chosen for the vehicle depicts a earopean theatre.

Also the metal fittings on the back pack would be brass for early '37 pattern and black painted steel for later austerity issue.

The seat covers in the quad would be a green canvas, and the internal engine shroud would be the same colour as the body work. The engine cases are mostly black, with air filter housings being gloss black, also a lot of oil on the air filter housing as it was an oil bath filter.

Something that Tamiya have omitted, the wheel platform under the gun carriage should have chains holding it to the carriage.

For comparison, and to show where the canvas bags go, I just found some piccies of the 25pdr. and Quad I made a few years ago:

Built largely OOB, except that I used clear acetate for the glazing on the quad, tissue paper for the canvas bags and tarpaulins, and thread for the tow cable mounted on the gunshield. Mostly painted using Tamiya acrylics.

Cheers,

Chris.

I got a box that looks alot like yours, execpt mine is in tan and of course I forgot to put the windows in before I glued the body together

but that is ok, I forgot that I was going to add a figure behind the wheel too

Good start with just a few comments;

1. I agree with the muzzle cover and some guns also have a breech cover. This prevents road dirt from getting into critical areas

2. No sights when traveling. They are off and in the vehicle.

3. The shovel looks to shiny. Most were painted black on the metal surfaces with scratches as they were used.

4. Don't forget to weather the motor. Needs some oil and dirt.

5. The packs on the back should be tied down. Find some catch points and thin string for rope.

Otherwise you have a great start. Hope to see it complete

Rounds Complete!! 

Good work, Rex. I love this kit, and built one a couple of years ago. Must dig out the piccies.

A few points you might like to address, though:

First, the bags on the rear deck of the Quad, and on the front of the limber, will fall off as soon as the driver engages frst gear. When he sees it, his Battery Sergeant Major will tear him a whole new a*sehole! They need to be tied down. In practice, bags and packs would be more likely to be stowed inside the Quad.

Second, when in trail mode, the front of the limber, the breech and the muzzle would be covered with canvas bags and tarps. It's easy to simulate this with tissue paper, soaked with dilute white glue, and painted with watercolours or acylics.

http://www.liberationchildren.org/lib/lib2/images/Wilp1.jpg

Third, when in travel mode, the gunsight, a delicate precision optical instrument, would be removed from the gun and stowed safely and securely in the Quad. The mount would also be covered with a canvas bag.

Cheers,

Chris.