Question on the HMMWV

Butz, good luck with your project. Eventually I'll build one myself. I 've got the Italeri "commando" hummer they're talking about in another thread and I've got the Verlinden "basic humv" improvement kit, so when all these other projects get finished.....

Hey Spam,
At the time that I was lookin, this was the only pic that showed the day glow somewhat well. Thanks again my friend.

Rangerboy,
So from what I have read, it seems that each unit varied in the placement of the panels as well as what type of materials that were used.(make sense?)
I also sent you an e-mail about a question regarding a motorbike attachment.
Thanks again for your time and help. I'll keep you guys posted on my build.
Flaps up, Mike

Hey those Panels were nylon and they were placed on the hood or on the rear hatch. At least that was where we put them when we went on manuevers. I was in the Cav , So we had to have them on the vehicles. How on the 2 1/2 t and 5 t they were placed either the hood or the roof of the cab. Not many HMMWV's had the same ID panels that are on just about all Armor in the Us inventory. Very few did get them ... special units like SF or the Ground crews for the 160th special ops (Aviation).

That's basically it, however the photo you posted seems to have a paper or plastic panel taped to the hood. The ones we painted on were located on the roof; on my truck it was over the rear seats.

we use panels like that to signal for the incoming helicopters to land, or we can use them to mark a range in a training area.
they probably had a soldier get hurt and used that hummer in the inverted "Y"
to get the bird to land in the correct spot?

Hey Spam,
In regards to the day glow orange application that you mentioned. Basically this is what your talking about right.


Flaps up, Mike

Hey Spamicus,
Thank you for the description and how they were applied. That may be a consideration for my HMMWV..!!
When the build is finished I'll share some pix w/ ya.
Flaps up, Mike

I don't know how wide spread the use of painted air recognition panels was, but in my battalion I believe all the armored vehicles had the standard panels, however many of the wheels were lacking this piece of equipment. Our S-4 got the paint locally in Saudi Arabia before the ground war started and the painting was done as necessary.

Hey renarts,
Well I guess its true..!!! The dark side is better Riiigghhtt...!!!
Like I have said before I am true to my roots plus where can ya go Mach 1 w/ your hair on fire?
Na I'm lookin forward to building a few armor pieces over the winter. This will give me chance to take a break from doin a/c.

Spam,
So thats how there were applied. Was this a common practice or did just a few batl/groups. use this??

Hey RAF,
I'm looking forward to this build as well. Believe me once its finished, I'll post some pixs here to share.
Flaps up, Mike

MIKE!!!!!!

Knew you'd be back....... Who says there isn't as much research on dirt wagons as a/c?

Look forward to the build.

Mike

Mike,
Sounds like a cool build. Before we went to desert storm our scouts were trying out the motorcycles. The idea was that they were going to trade in their Bradleys for HMMWV with bikes on the back. It never happened thou.

"Day glow" orange. They were about the same color as the tie on panels we were supposed to have. The tanks had the right equipmewnt our wheels didn't, so we painted them on. On a Hmmwv it was a rectangle with the long side parallel to the front bumper. I think we went about 18 inches on the short side and 40-48 inches on the long side. Mine was over the rear seats and my camo nets were bundled up over the front seats.

Hey Rob,
Thanks again for your help. Soon (I hope) I can get the ball rolling on the HMMWV.
Not sure though if I want to make it from the first Gulf war or this present campaign?

RAF120,
No problem, once it gets built I'll post some pix Actually its going to done up as a Military Police HMMWV. I am going to go one step further and add on a platform which will contain a kawasaki cross country motorbike.
W/ the ref material that I do have, each of these applications were field applied and really had no standard on how they were made!!
Wish me luck MAN.......!!!!!!!!!

Hey Spam,
"We did paint "day glow" orange air panels on the roofs though"
How did these look??

Hey Ex18D,
Thank you to kindly my friend I'll get in touch w/ ya soon
Flaps up, Mike

Hey Mike,

I have some nice shots of SpecOps Hummers in Desert colors if you would like copies email at:

thomas.m.sweet@us.army.mil and I will be glad to send them to you


Tom

Mike,

I'm just glad I could help, even in the smallest ways.

I sent you a couple of pics hope they got to you. If they didn't let me know.

As the Major has stated, the inside would still be green. My Hummv was sand outside and green inside and the soft doors and top remained green as well. This was during Desert Storm, 1991. Some of the other 1SGs in my Battalion painted their soft doors and tops sand, but I didn't, I had other things to worry about. We did paint "day glow" orange air panels on the roofs though. I was in 1st Inf Div.

The actual frame was always black underneath but the underside of the body could be either green (older) or tan (newer). Not all HMMWVs are made in tan, some are still made in green.

Also in my first post I misstated my answer. The last question of the first paragraph should read, "This started in the late 90s so Desert Storm era HMMWVs would be green inside." I must be getting old to make a mistake like that.

Hey Rob G,
Thank you to much for your info and your awesome site. So Forest green/ (Medium green as RAF 120 mentioned) would be the exceptable interior colours?
The under carage could be black as again RAF 120 explained or tan as you had mentioned for later models.
Check out this site http://www.militaryphotos.net/ that Capt Caveman supplied. There is a pix of a HMMWV(user submitted photos) from a three quarter rear view. The interior appears to be an over all medium/forest green throughout.
The underside is hard to make out at this angle. So basically from what I gather, the camo HMMWVs (NATO) had black undersides while the present mfg'd Hummers where over all tan.
Hey RAF120,
Again thank you for the site and would you have any pix of your Hummers you could share?
Here is my e-mail address Falcon42177@yahoo.com or Falcon174th@aol.com
Like I had mentioned before I'm an a/c kid and all my ref are based around a/c but I like building armor as a break(stepping into the dark side a bit)
Thanks again
Flaps up, Mike

This is coming from my own experience has a HMMWV mechanic from '89-'94 at Ft Stewart.

Our HMMWVs were desert sand and had flat black frames and running gear to include the rims. The underside of the bodies were medium green. As for the interiors. For the most part they were medium green some of the guys painted top of center between the seats sand, because if I remember right the top of the center was plywood and there was a green mat that covered the rest. In the 2 seater model the cargo area was painted sand along with the troop seats. All our canvas was green, but with all the dust you really couldn't tell. It wasn't untill after we got back from the gulf that we started getting replacment canvas in the sand color. A lot of our HMMWVs didn't have the doors on. I think it was because while on post the MPs wanted to know if we had our seat belts on.

Now keep in mind that all our replacement part came in that same medium green. so it was not uncommon to see one of our HMMWV with a green grill, mirror,turn signal, or even a hood. Again in the desert the dust covered the green up real quick.

Olive isn't a paint color used on the HMMWV. The interior could be forest green (most likely) but later HMMWVs are being painted tan at the factory and items like the plastic parts and even the canvas are being produced in tan. This started in the late 90s so Desert Storm era HMMWVs would be tan inside.

See the link below my name to see photos of green and tan HMMWVs.

EDIT: Last sentence should read "...Desert Storm era HMMWVs would be green inside."

heres a piccy

Hey Capt Caveman,
I have been to the dark side once or twice before. I'm a a/c kid all the way, but I like to get dirty once in a while. Did that even sound right?
Anywho thanx for the site and as for the instructions, they say it can be painted either dk green or the dessert pink(sand) Hate opptions.
I do have a few pix of the Hummer in the gulf which have the dessert pink(sand) applied w/ a green interior.
Thanx again my friend. Ya know the dark side seems to be easier than research/building a/c. Opps did I say that
Flaps up, Mike

i would have thought that the exterior would have been painted fron the european Cammo to desert, so i would keep the interior green but should be weathered (sand gets everywhere)
heres a site that might help http://www.militaryphotos.net/
ill have a look for some more

welcome to the Darkside