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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, November 7, 2003 9:30 PM
Hey guys...

I read abou this at the Testors scale workshop.. They suggest a mixture of putty and thinner(Get those gas masks ready!!!)... Check this out..
http://www.scaleworkshop.com/workshop/paintingsmallscalearmorbg_2.htm

I plan to use this on my panther.. (Boy is this a nightmare of a build!!) If anyone's used it before kindly lemme know how it turns out and whether if its worth creating those obnoxious fumes of the thinner + putty combo!!

Thanking you in advance.
Cheers,
Nandakumar
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, November 7, 2003 3:18 PM
Fair enough, guys. I'll give it a whirl on a small kit meant for wargaming and see if I like it. Thanks for the info. I've got a Grille on the hopper and I think I'll dust it up a bit.
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  • From: USA, GA
Posted by erush on Friday, November 7, 2003 3:15 PM
Larry, if you spray a dull coat over the pastels, use a very light coat and back off so it's almost dry as it hits the model. I mentioned earlier that even that way you'll still lose some of the effect from the dull over the pastels, your choice.

Eric
Hi, I'm Eric and I'm a Modelholic too. I think I have PE poisioning.     "Friendly fire...isn't"
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, November 7, 2003 2:39 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by styrene
The key to keeping them on is to hit the model with some dull coat after their application.


Doesn't the liquid spray coat penetrate the pastel powder though and granulate it?

Maybe I should try this on a little 1/72nd scale kit as an experiment.
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Posted by styrene on Friday, November 7, 2003 1:44 PM
I use black pastels on and inside the muzzle brake as well as exhaust pipes and their stains around their periphery, and rust pastels on mufflers and other fiddly-bits. The key to keeping them on is to hit the model with some dull coat after their application. It's also important that the paint be FLAT when applying pastels. No gloss coat or Future where the pastels are going to go, or else the dull cote is liable to wash the pastel finish off. The flat paint gives teeth to the pastel dust, and allows it to hold on. Been doing it this way for years with no problems.
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, November 7, 2003 1:21 PM
I use a cosmetic applicator to apply pastels. I also use a fan brush. If you want a heavier coat toward the bottom (road wheel and tracks) to simulate mud, you can apply right after spraying a dull-coat. You have to "flick" it on and not touch the wet coat.

This is definately the last step before the model goes on display.
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  • From: USA, GA
Posted by erush on Friday, November 7, 2003 12:54 PM
You can also use the back of an x-acto blade to scrape the pastel stick to make your powder or a course file also works. I use a fairly stiff brush to apply and spread the powder around. You can seal the pastels with a dull coat but you will lose some of the effect when you do it. Also make sure you have a good dull coat before applying the pastels so it has something to bite and stay in place. Just go easy at first and build it up to where you want it.

Eric
Hi, I'm Eric and I'm a Modelholic too. I think I have PE poisioning.     "Friendly fire...isn't"
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Posted by djmodels1999 on Friday, November 7, 2003 12:13 PM
Larry, you don't really 'sprinkle' them on.. I use one of those soft, fan-shaped brushes to 'scoop' some pastel dust then litteraly slap the bristles against the model (mostly the lower parts as I only use pastels, so far anyway, to represent dust).

Once you have slpaaped over a few times, use the same brush to remove the excess, then blow a good time over the model to get rid of whathever is not 'fixed'.

Notice I also 'dust' my bases so that the ground and the model feature the same 'dust'.

From then on, if the model was not already fixed to the base, keep your hands off the model as much as you can.

As to grinding them, just grind the sticks over some coarse sand-paper. Not much is needed.
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Never used pastels
Posted by Anonymous on Friday, November 7, 2003 12:04 PM
Yup, I've never used the things. Never gound them up, never put them on.

Still, people go on about them so that I thought I'd give them a try. Problem is, no one ever really gets down to the nitty gritty (pardon the expression) and explains how you keepthe damn things on the tank. It's powder, right? If you sprinkle it on, does it not come off whenever you unexpectedly sneeze? If you glue it on or sprinkle it over some currently-drying agent doesn't it congeal into a decidely unpowderlike substance?

I have three kids so my tanks occasionally take a tumble ("So, you guys are saying that the tank fell off the shelf all by itself?"), and I don't want hours of powder application to have little finger prints all over it. Any suggestions, pointers, 1/1 scale tread links over the head, you'd like to share?
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