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The Bandit is east bound! (PIcs)

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Posted by djmodels1999 on Sunday, January 11, 2004 4:03 AM
Chris, somehow I've missed this thread over the past few weeks (if not months!). How could I..? I'm a great fan of the Bandit movies (My American wife says I'm I'm sad, I know...).

Great build, despite the aggravation that the kit brought you. I just love it..! Will you build another one for me..??!
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Posted by mark956 on Sunday, January 11, 2004 1:20 AM
Nice looking TA Chris. Thanks for posting the pictures of it.
mark95
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, January 10, 2004 11:17 PM
After reading all the responses that you got on "The Bandit" Lizardqing2, I thought I'd go out and pick one up, and did so. I'll give my opinion on assembly of it when I finish, ok? I do know a little about difficult assemblies, as I once put together a '70 Boss, what a pain in the nanas that one was....later
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Posted by murph on Friday, January 9, 2004 9:38 PM
I'm still kicking myself in the ****** for getting rid of my '78 T/A. It was originally red with the red velour interior but the chap who had it before I did painted it black and deleted all the decals. It was equipped with the L-72, T/A 6.6 litre engine (220 hp) with a Borg-Warner 4 speed. It originally had the rear drums but I converted it to rear discs. I had that car for about 5 years before I parted with it.

Oh well...the ragtop Mustang GT I have now more than makes up for it

Retired and living the dream!

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Posted by usaf ssgt on Friday, January 9, 2004 8:41 PM
Nice T/A, I have built many of these since they came out in 1977.

I would like to add some clarification to the comments left by x factor, regarding the real cars.

I agree the model year is 1977,but the real car would not have the 8" snowflakes, as they didn't appear until 1978, and then only as a part of the WS-6 package.The 7" snowflakes in this kit are correct for the year and the movie car.

This may be difficult to do as a model, but the shaker scoop was unique to the 1977 model year, it was alot lower in the hood, and has a very distinct ridge running the length of it.

I agree that the interior was black in the movie car.

This may be hard to realize, but the cars were not made for the movie, they were a planned model by Pontiac, and known as the Special Edition, not the Smokey and the Bandit edtion.

As far as my take on the kit, I'll say the biggest problem areas are in the shape and fitment of the wheel flares, and as mentioned before, the exhaust manifolds, and the lack of any good body to chassis mounting locations.

The other area is, the front end sits far too high, and needs a good lowering.

Sorry if I come off sounding like a know-it-all, but after owning my Trans Am for 22 years, I have had alot of time to study the type.


Keep up the good work!
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Posted by lizardqing on Tuesday, November 25, 2003 11:17 PM
Hey none taken, I freely admit that it's not an exact replica but a creation of mine. I do always like learning as much as I can about stuff though.
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, November 25, 2003 5:51 PM
Lizard: I was not trying to bash your buildup in any way, shape, or form. Figured since the subject came up I would forward my information on to others looking for the poop on the real car. Laugh [(-D]
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Posted by lizardqing on Tuesday, November 25, 2003 5:35 PM
Thats good info Rob. My friend that got this one wanted black interior but decided it looked better with the tan. I think so to being that it's that small if it was all balck it would just look llike a big black piece of plastic sitting on the shelf. Good history behind it though. I don't really remember everything about the car since when it was released I was riding around town in a stroller Smile [:)]
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, November 25, 2003 4:57 PM
Ok actually it goes like this the '76 50th Anniverary TA was the original triple black car. Not many people even knew about it as SATB had not come out yet. In the film it was basicly the '76 with the updated body improvemnets for the '77(basicly hood and shaker scoop and different bezels on the headlights) and retained it's 50th aniv. black vinyl interior. This was also the first year of the "6.6 Litre" designation for the 400 engine as the 455 was put out of production. In the '77-'78 model year the car was released as a production car for "Bandit buyers". Same car with more gold trim inside and out such as the gold spoked steering wheel and instrument facia was sold as the Pontiac Trans Am SE(Y82 special Edition).

Rob
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Posted by MartianGundamModeler on Tuesday, November 25, 2003 2:00 AM
Now from what i recollect, the interior of the car in the movie was tan. Now if I understand you, you are saying that the production version of the "bandit car" based on the car from the movie was triple black correct? I would also assume that this "production car" is the later '78 model you are refering to as i assume that the production car would have come out sometime after the movie. Am I understanding you correctly?
"Some men look at things the way they are and ask ' Why?'. I dream of things that never were and ask "Why not?".--Robert Kennedy taken from George Bernard Shaw's "Back To Methuselah" (Thanks to TomZ2) http://martiangundammodels.50megs.com/index.html
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, November 24, 2003 11:31 PM
I never built an AMT auto kit can't help you there. I did build the MPC "Blackbird" Trans Am and it was flawless, one great kit I must say. Not to rain on your parade but there is one small detail I should mention if you are interested. I fell in love with this car ever since the movie came out, I have been lucky enough to able to own one after all those years. Any how, a little info for you regarding the car in question. The TA is actually a '77 and not a '78 not that you can tell the difference really, the Bandit edition car that was sold as was the car in the film was triple black ( the interior was black not tan) the wheels were also 8" deep optiion wheels not the standard 7" honeycombs you see everywhere. The decals were also special as just about all of the late model cars have 5 color decals the Bandit was 3 color, there are also minor decal alteration from the familliar marking on standard TA's we've all seen. This is not a critique just a little info for interested modelers who might want to build up one

Model On,

Rob
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Posted by lizardqing on Sunday, November 23, 2003 12:11 PM
Thanks Domi. It's not that hard to find the time. Computer sits in the living room , build in the kitchen and everybody hangs out in between so it's pretty easy. PLus other than work and some fire calls, never go anywhere else.
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Posted by djmodels1999 on Sunday, November 23, 2003 11:06 AM
Nice one Chris. Despite the problems you came up with a very good looking model. Your friend will be pleased!

By the way, when do you find the time to build models and talk to your wife (other than on the forum!??)... You seem to be permanently here! LOL That's what the little X at the top right corner of your screen is for.. LOL

Keep up the good work!

Domi

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Posted by lizardqing on Saturday, November 22, 2003 1:49 PM
Martian- Don't be fooled. I hate decals for the most part to. Never put any on a kit until recently. I just took a deep breath and dove into these and kept with it till they were on it. Probally safe to say thats the last pinstriping I'll do if I can help it.
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Posted by MartianGundamModeler on Friday, November 21, 2003 11:47 PM
Thanks for the heads up Kustommodeler1 on those t-tops and windsheild fitting I haven't gotten that far along yet. i have only just finished both chasis and painted one of the bodies. I beleive have lost one of my dashes, the one I had painted and drilled for the fiber optics. [I guess that's what happens when you take a kit to work with you.]
As for you lizardqing2, you are a bigger man than I because those pinstripes alone would have sent me running from that bugger! it's strange that i can sit an cut plastic and drill wholes for sci-fi kits and the like all day long but i dread decals!LOL i suppose each modeler has his own gifts. Great job!
"Some men look at things the way they are and ask ' Why?'. I dream of things that never were and ask "Why not?".--Robert Kennedy taken from George Bernard Shaw's "Back To Methuselah" (Thanks to TomZ2) http://martiangundammodels.50megs.com/index.html
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Posted by lizardqing on Friday, November 21, 2003 7:37 PM
Martian- I suppose the grill would have looked better blackened out. I did'nt even think about that. Guess that's what is good about keeping models around, always can go back and improve something.

Ron- The flocking was the biggest suprise for me. Before I put it all together it looked like crap but somehow when it was complete it actually looked good inside it. DOn;t know why just glad it worked. I'd say this one was about as much of a challenge as the ones I sent you are going to be. Just keep all sources of heat out of reach as oldhooker showed!
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, November 21, 2003 5:39 PM
hey chris, the T/A looks great!!!


Seems the flocking came out pretty good after all!!!


Considering how those old kits are, i'd say you did a really good job!!!

Keep them comin!!!!
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, November 21, 2003 10:44 AM
Kustom,

I had noticed from the picture on the front of the box that the truck looked like it sat high in the rear. After I fiish my current project, if I'm looking for a real challenge maybe I'll pick the Lil' Red Express.
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Posted by kustommodeler1 on Friday, November 21, 2003 9:30 AM


I was considering doing the Lil Red Express, maybe not Dead [xx(].


I'm sorry, I didn't mean to dissuade you in any way from building the kit. MPC's kits can be a challenge, and with patience and persistence, the payoff can be pretty good as with lizardqing2's Bandit.

I have the Lil Red. The main thing to watch for is the chassis/frame absolutely does not fit, and will not fit together with the cab assembly without carefull modification,and the rear springs are about WAY out of scale. This will make the truck sit really high in the rear without some mods here as well.

The Night Rider T/A doesnt turn out too bad either, if you use a never say die attitude. Just gotta watch out for the T-top, and widshield frame. It's difficult to get the windshield to fit properly.

I hope you decide to go ahead and build themSmile [:)]

Darrin

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Posted by MartianGundamModeler on Friday, November 21, 2003 12:55 AM
Nice build, though I am surprised to see you didn't blacken the grill [but hey you were building it for someone else, right?lol]
Anyway i am currently building the knight rider car in fact two of them. One will be KITT and the other his evil twin KARR. I'm gojng to run lights and I drilled holes in on eof the dashes for fiber optics. It's actually not a bad kit. it comes with extra bits like chrome side pipes, extra chrome wheels, tubo and regular air cleaner, two diff hoods and two different rear spoilers. It's molded in grey.
The original relee was molded in black and included parts to make either one of three versions, standard T/A, turbo T/A, or KITT. i once built the original kit for my little brother about 20 yrs ago [man I'm gettin old!LOL]. Any way this rerelease does not include a standard nose or dash to build the regular T/As. this kit isn't perfect but it is worth picking up for the price. Less than $12 bucks at Hobby Lobby when not on sale. I just found the second one on clearance for $5.75 at hobby lobby. Can't beat that price. Sine the car is solid black and the interior solid tan [ecept the dash which is of course black] it is simple to paint.
"Some men look at things the way they are and ask ' Why?'. I dream of things that never were and ask "Why not?".--Robert Kennedy taken from George Bernard Shaw's "Back To Methuselah" (Thanks to TomZ2) http://martiangundammodels.50megs.com/index.html
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Posted by lizardqing on Thursday, November 20, 2003 9:23 PM
Thanks guys.
kustom- I thought about doing the knight rider for my friend too. Guess that changed though if it came from the same people.

Frank- That sure doees look how this one came oh to close to looking like a few times.

It was all worth the trouble though, my friend stopped by tonite and loved it. I'm sure he'll put it somewhere at his place to do it justice.
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Posted by oldhooker on Thursday, November 20, 2003 10:16 AM
Chris,

It sounds as if building that kit was about as enjoyable as trying to change the spark plugs on a real '79 Trans Am!!!! Banged Head [banghead]

I applaud your persistance however, as it seems to have paid off.... (here's a picture of the LAST Polar Lights car that wouldn't stop giving me trouble)... Whistling [:-^]



Later,
Frank

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, November 20, 2003 9:24 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by kustommodeler1
I'm sorry. I gotta defend AMT here, but only to clarify something. This kit is a re-release of the kit originally done by MPC. When Ertl aquired both companies, the MPC name pretty much dissapeared, but the tooling for their kits lives on, and is re-released usually under the AMT name.

Yes, the kit is ----primitive. Most of MPC's kits were. Other MPC kits you can find under the AMT name are the Original "Night Rider" '82 Trans Am, and the '78 Dodge Li'l Red Express pickup.



I was considering doing the Lil Red Express, maybe not Dead [xx(].
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Posted by kustommodeler1 on Thursday, November 20, 2003 7:24 AM
I'm sorry. I gotta defend AMT here, but only to clarify something. This kit is a re-release of the kit originally done by MPC. When Ertl aquired both companies, the MPC name pretty much dissapeared, but the tooling for their kits lives on, and is re-released usually under the AMT name.

Yes, the kit is ----primitive. Most of MPC's kits were. Other MPC kits you can find under the AMT name are the Original "Night Rider" '82 Trans Am, and the '78 Dodge Li'l Red Express pickup.

But overall, you've done a remarkable job. I'd display it proudly!Big Smile [:D]

Darrin

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, November 20, 2003 5:50 AM
You did a good job on a kit by a manufacturer that has quality that is un-paralleled for non ease of construction. Nicely done!

demono69
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Posted by J-Hulk on Thursday, November 20, 2003 5:23 AM
Well, for all your troubles, it came out looking great!
Very nostalgic!
~Brian
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Posted by lizardqing on Wednesday, November 19, 2003 4:10 PM
Thanks Chris, yea my wife got tired of hearing me complain about those decals. i'll leave decals off sometimes if they are to much of a pain but those are what makes the car with this one.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, November 19, 2003 3:33 PM
Sounds like a typical AMT kit to me.....they have some major issues with certain cars of thiers take the 67 Mustang Fastback as an example....Built one or 2 YRS ago....Im building one now.....still the same flaws and problems as there were back then they just stuffed it in a different box!

For all the trouble you had with it Chris it looks good! Those decals look like they were a BEAR pun intended!
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The Bandit is east bound! (PIcs)
Posted by lizardqing on Wednesday, November 19, 2003 2:32 PM
Finally after a couple of months of working on it here and there this one is put up. This is AMT's kit and the nicest review that I could give of this kit would not be appropriate for this site Censored [censored].I have never wanted to trash a kit so bad in my life but since it's for a buddy I went on with it. There was not much that fit right.Banged Head [banghead] All the body pieces had to be filled, the exhaust manifold had to be taken back off and modified to get the motor to go in,there is no where on the front of the chasis to attach it to the body so it is still loose. The decals were a nightmare all on thier own There was a big thick sticker on the back of them with the instructions that would hardly cut good and would not let water get through to the back of the decal. I tried out carpet flocking for the first time on this one which you can kind of see , pic is a little blurry though. If anyone is wanting to do this one , start out looking at it as a challenge.







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