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saw the new 27 Ford

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saw the new 27 Ford
Posted by squeakie on Saturday, March 27, 2010 12:47 PM

I saw the new 1925 Mod. T yesterday afternoon, and the kits wrong! As in really wrong! First of all the Cowl around the windshield post is shaped differently on the coupe than the roadster. Thecondly the turtle deck is closer to something off a 23 T, or a sedan. So you can forget about building that magic 1927 roadster again. Also I'm not sure you can build an accurate coupe from the kit as well.

gary

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Posted by Pawel on Saturday, March 27, 2010 2:54 PM

Ain't it a shame when it happens - you wait for a kit to arrive, and when it does - a disappointment. It kinda happened to me with the Academy Sheridan, and now people talk in a similar way about the new Ontos (didn't see it yet). Like the only cure to it would be a strong dose of ignorance. Like I don't know the Ford T in detail so I probably wouldn't notice. Or same thing with the Sheridan and Ontos - I wouldn't probably notice any problems until I started building the baby and checking the references. And then it hurts again. Pity they don't get it right right on. Have a nice day

Pawel

All comments and critique welcomed. Thanks for your honest opinions!

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Posted by squeakie on Saturday, March 27, 2010 3:37 PM

Pawel

Ain't it a shame when it happens - you wait for a kit to arrive, and when it does - a disappointment. It kinda happened to me with the Academy Sheridan, and now people talk in a similar way about the new Ontos (didn't see it yet). Like the only cure to it would be a strong dose of ignorance. Like I don't know the Ford T in detail so I probably wouldn't notice. Or same thing with the Sheridan and Ontos - I wouldn't probably notice any problems until I started building the baby and checking the references. And then it hurts again. Pity they don't get it right right on. Have a nice day

Pawel

I don't know which Sheridan you bought, as one is really the olf Tamiya kit. The other two are not real bad, but still not perfect. I've really only been up close to two M50's, and both have differences in them. I'm not buying the Zolaga deal about the way they set on the ground yet, but I'm also not calling him wrong either. I have one setting about twenty minutes south of me, and will do the tape measure thing to see who's right and wrong. I'll probably build a couple of them next winter. As for the Sheridan again, I've found some aftermarket stuff for them (Jaguar makes a nice set of tracks and wheels), and I just have not taken the time to give all the stuff a complete study.

     I used to own a 27 Ford Roadster, and it's the same car as the 1925 model. But there is actually two different bodies used by Ford (in otherwords they didn't just cut the roof of the sedan). There's a resin roadster body out there, but it's not right as well (suspect they took the deminsions off an aftermarket fiberglass body) Tobe honest with you it's closer to a Dodge Brothers body, and I may just build up a Bonneville Dodge Brothers Roadster for a change of pace

gary

 

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Posted by MarkDW on Monday, March 29, 2010 12:23 PM

I'm confused. Is it a 27, or 25? The 26-27 ford T had new lower bodies, a different cowl (with a flap that lifts up so you can put in gas, no more under the seat gas tank), & the roadster has a higher turtle deck, almost looking like a model a. New crowned fenders, headlight bar & optional electricaly welded wire wheels were available. Nickled (plated) radiator shells became available for extra cost begining in late 1925 on the closed cars (Sedans, Coupes).  There are other differences as well, but for the body, the 26-27 is different. If this is the 25 T Double kit, then it's not too bad when compared to photos. It was probably based on the 1923 T amt used to have out. 

If your comparing coupes, there are differences between them as well, depending on the year & body supplier (Ford didn't make all their bodys).

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Posted by squeakie on Monday, March 29, 2010 2:55 PM

1925 thru 1927 are similar bodies with minor differences in the years. The front cowl on a sedan is completely different than a roadster cowl in shape as well as windshield post mounting. There are no true roadster parts in the kit. The turtle deck supplied is for a sedan, and even that dosn't look right (the one in the kit looks like a "squared off" turtle deck and is unlike an OEM). A 1923 cowl setting beside a 1927, 25 or whatever is a different animal. Just like a 15 is different than a 23, even though the bodies are sorta similar. What tey are calling a mod. T looks closer to something out of an Ed Roth studio. Maybe Revell will come out with one

gayr

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Posted by Aaronw on Monday, March 29, 2010 7:55 PM

I'm not sure if you are aware of this but this kit dates from the early 1960s and allows for 11 possible out of the box builds (and actually includes enough parts for 2 complete models) so I'm sure there was some compromise when they designed the kit. It was also probably aimed at hot rod builders throwing in the "stock" option as a secondary consideration. If Revell does one I wouldn't hold my breath about it being any less of a compromise towards the custom builder.

Lets face it stock auto builders are not exactly having the model companies beating down our doors, the custom, muscle and exotics get the bulk of the new kits, a stock Model T is kind of like asking for an aircraft kit of an AgCat. Lots of them out there but a small market for model companies.

I'm building a pickup out of the kit, granted a Model T is a Model T to me, but it looks like a Model T pickup and it seems to be going together well so I'm pretty happy as I don't really have any other options.

 

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Posted by Gear Head 6 on Wednesday, April 7, 2010 11:05 AM

......................The 25' Ford double T kit was released in 1960 or 61 and was the first AMT double kits and featured an opened stock roadster/pickup and a street rode with a chop topped coupe body. A few years later the chopped body was replaced by a stock "phone booth" coupe body and was offered both on hobby shelves and as a Ford Motor Company promotional item. .............During the late sixties the street rode half of the kit was offered as a odd opened dune buggy with duel Indy tires on the rear and singles on the front. Many of the original custom parts disappeared................The double kit was reissued in the seventies with a roadster and "C" cab truck body (paddy waggon and fruit wagon with produce shelves). ...............The 25' T was last issued, in the late eighties, with a stock coupe body and a rode chassis. It made only one car; stock street rod....................The new version seems to have all of the parts restored including the moon disc wheel covers and cycle fenders for the the street rod version...................AMT also offered a 27 Ford with a tub body as part of a double kit with a full out custom roadster in 1963.  It slightly modified into the (fictional) 1928 Porter from the horrible "My Mother the Car" series in 66'. Over the years the 27 T has been reissued as stock,  as a fire truck, police car (the most recent reissue) all with vintage speed equipment. The double kit version has never been reissued unfortunately 

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