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Masking panel lines
Posted by evo_lover on Thursday, October 4, 2012 5:57 PM

Currently, I am working on my tamiya Evo VI. My dilenma problem is that when i am painting the black lines around the windshield (body)the paint still goes thru the  Tamirya masking tape because of the panel lines. As a result there are lines where I don't want them to be. How do you block out the paint from going through the tape?

 

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Posted by Trabi on Friday, October 5, 2012 3:17 AM

Hello evo!

I use for those lines permanent marker with quite wide tip. Way easier than masking & painting. Also it gives right shine to simulate rubber/plastic. Only minus is that it takes time to dry so have to remember not to touch those areas after coloring. That´s why I make those last.

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Posted by Phil_H on Friday, October 5, 2012 4:01 AM

If I'm reading this right, you're getting paint bleeding under the tape where the tape crosses panel lines on the body? If so, use a toothpick to burnish the tape down into the panel lines.  

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Posted by evo_lover on Friday, October 5, 2012 8:37 PM

@Trabi. Hello. if your using that kind of marker, How are you making the lines straight? Remember the lines around the windshield is kinda curving. What is the brand of marker are you using?

@phil_h. yes its bleeding underneath the tape....Thanks for the tip. I'll try it out.

Thanks for peeking.

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Posted by Don Stauffer on Saturday, October 6, 2012 9:03 AM

If it is a case of bleed UNDER, as opposed to bleed through, the solution is to spray the area with gloss clearcoat before applying the black.  The clearcoat wicks under any unsealed edges and prevents paint from wicking under.  Also, before the clearcoat I push the tape down into panel lines with the end of a sharp toothpick.

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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Posted by evo_lover on Saturday, October 6, 2012 2:38 PM

Thanks don

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Posted by Trabi on Sunday, October 7, 2012 2:48 PM

evo_lover

@Trabi. Hello. if your using that kind of marker, How are you making the lines straight? Remember the lines around the windshield is kinda curving. What is the brand of marker are you using?

Just with the free hand. Like pinstriping. You have to support your hand to the car body. Needs bit practice, but what doesn´t? Smile Brand what I use is Yoken. And it´s with that chisel tip.

 

 

 

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Posted by evo_lover on Sunday, October 7, 2012 5:48 PM

Trabi

Just with the free hand. Like pinstriping. You have to support your hand to the car body. Needs bit practice, but what doesn´t? Smile Brand what I use is Yoken. And it´s with that chisel tip.

Yeah it needs practice but I don't think it will work with me. I got a shaky hand but I'll still try. Thanks.

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Posted by evo_lover on Sunday, October 7, 2012 5:52 PM

Don Stauffer

If it is a case of bleed UNDER, as opposed to bleed through, the solution is to spray the area with gloss clearcoat before applying the black.  The clearcoat wicks under any unsealed edges and prevents paint from wicking under.  Also, before the clearcoat I push the tape down into panel lines with the end of a sharp toothpick.

One question, I have for you Don, it came to me just last nigh, what  if an "bleed under" happens to you(Iam sure it happened to you). How do you remedy it? Do you repaint the whole body and start all over again or Just retouch the paint that is not supposed to be there? or you do have another tip?

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Posted by Don Stauffer on Monday, October 8, 2012 8:34 AM

evo_lover

Don Stauffer

If it is a case of bleed UNDER, as opposed to bleed through, the solution is to spray the area with gloss clearcoat before applying the black.  The clearcoat wicks under any unsealed edges and prevents paint from wicking under.  Also, before the clearcoat I push the tape down into panel lines with the end of a sharp toothpick.

One question, I have for you Don, it came to me just last nigh, what  if an "bleed under" happens to you(Iam sure it happened to you). How do you remedy it? Do you repaint the whole body and start all over again or Just retouch the paint that is not supposed to be there? or you do have another tip?

Ordinarily yes, but I believe the OP was talking about a windshield, so you would have to strip the old paint off instead of painting over it.  In that case I would try to physically scrape bleed under paint if possible.

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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Posted by evo_lover on Monday, October 8, 2012 11:24 AM

Don Stauffer

evo_lover

Don Stauffer

If it is a case of bleed UNDER, as opposed to bleed through, the solution is to spray the area with gloss clearcoat before applying the black.  The clearcoat wicks under any unsealed edges and prevents paint from wicking under.  Also, before the clearcoat I push the tape down into panel lines with the end of a sharp toothpick.

One question, I have for you Don, it came to me just last nigh, what  if an "bleed under" happens to you(Iam sure it happened to you). How do you remedy it? Do you repaint the whole body and start all over again or Just retouch the paint that is not supposed to be there? or you do have another tip?

Ordinarily yes, but I believe the OP was talking about a windshield, so you would have to strip the old paint off instead of painting over it.  In that case I would try to physically scrape bleed under paint if possible.

 

When you say "physically scrape bleed under paint", do you mean  remove it by using sandpaper or some other way?

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Posted by Don Stauffer on Tuesday, October 9, 2012 9:12 AM

I use an X-acto blade as a scraper.  Does less damage to transparency.  If you are careful, Future will make windshield look okay again.  This is only for real small bleed-through paint deposites.

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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Posted by evo_lover on Tuesday, October 9, 2012 8:05 PM

Don Stauffer

I use an X-acto blade as a scraper.  Does less damage to transparency.  If you are careful, Future will make windshield look okay again.  This is only for real small bleed-through paint deposites.

Maybe, you did not understand me clearly. I am talking about an underbleed which takes place on the body itself. It is not on the windshield itself. It is outsite the windshield. It is the emulated rubber seal in between the windshield and the car body. I tried your tip that needs a tootpick to use as a tool to depress the masking tape but the paint still passes through. I think the panel line is too deep for the tape to reach. How can I remove the excess paint? Will I use a sandpaper and partially paint over the paint that bleeded or Is there a better way to resolve this issue.    Thanks.

 

 

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