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Protecting Tire Decals?

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Protecting Tire Decals?
Posted by Jason5371 on Monday, September 8, 2014 1:19 PM

Hey Guys,

   I am working on the Revell Re Bull RB8 Mark Webber car.  The kit comes with water slide decals for the tire lettering.  In the past, I have used the dry transfer letters and paint for the lettering, but I have not used decals before.  Anything special I need to do to prep the tires and/or protect the decals once applied?  I have read somewhere (quite a while back) that the normal gloss coat will never dry on the type of material that the companies make these tires out of.

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Posted by Chrisk-k on Monday, September 8, 2014 2:27 PM

Apply an acrylic satin or matte top coat unless you want shiny tires.  I think I have read in the current issue of FSM that acrylics dry fast even on special rubber materials used for model tires.

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Posted by Don Stauffer on Tuesday, September 9, 2014 9:34 AM

If those are vinyl tires, many clearcoats can create problems- they do not dry, but stay tacky forever.  That is why dry transfers are so nice- no topcoat needed.  If no applicable dry transfers are available, the decals do remain a tough problem. If the tires come on a piece of sprue, I recommend testing any clearcoat on a piece of that "sprue."

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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Posted by Jason5371 on Tuesday, September 9, 2014 9:50 AM

Thanks for the info, fellas.  I would love to find some dry transfers, but have had no luck yet.  Unfortunately, these tires did not come on a sprue, just in a bag.  Oh well!

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Posted by Chrisk-k on Tuesday, September 9, 2014 9:40 PM

Let me know if you find dry transfers.  I much prefer them to decals anyway.

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Posted by mississippivol on Tuesday, September 9, 2014 9:43 PM

I've used Testor's Dullcote on Monogram stock car tires without any issues. It's a lacquer. The only problems I've had with paint not drying is when I tried to use enamels.

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Posted by Seabe on Wednesday, September 10, 2014 3:27 PM

I've done a number of waterslides - the 43rd's are mostly exclusively waterslide tyre decals. But don't take this as gospel, it worked for me - thusfar!

Firstly, you get rid of the mold lines (obviously). Then add a sealing layer. And yes, as said above, NOT enamels. I mostly use acrylics and once even tried floor polish to good effect (the Future-ish stuff - we don't have "real" Future here).

Apply decal as normal. I also use Tameo extra strong solvent on their decals. (But that is SERIOUSLY aggressive, be very careful if you do use it!) Micro Sol also works a treat. Allow drying time.

Then clear to seal it - again acrylic or Future. And I only tend to paint the sidewalls. If they are glossy, it's okay (esp 43rd... in 20th you may want to go to SG). I then leave that and touch the running surface with file to get rid of any potential gloss there.

Like I said, I don't claim this to be the ultimate solution to all tyre problems and YMMV, but it's worked well enough for me up till now.

And Jason - show us some WIP pics of that build!

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Posted by PatW on Tuesday, September 16, 2014 3:46 PM

To get the correct matte finish I use a can of enamel matt clear and carefully put on with a small brush after waiting up to a week for the decal to dry fully.

Remember , common sense is not common.

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Posted by Jason5371 on Tuesday, September 16, 2014 9:00 PM

Thanks for the tips, guys!  I'll try to upload some pics here shortly.  Haven't uploaded anything on here before, so bear with me a little!

This is the Revell 1:24 scale care and not the Tamiya.  Be that as it is, the kit is not designed to have panels removed to show the engine.  I only painted what might be seen through what few openings there are in the body work.  By far the most aggravating aspect of this kit is the carbon fiber decals!

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Posted by Jason5371 on Friday, September 19, 2014 9:36 PM

Well, here they are!  I ended up brushing on a coat of Future on the sidewalls both before and after applying the decals.  Now, I can't decide if I should tone the shine down or not.  In the photos I have looked at of the real car, the sidewalls are quite shiny.  Any thoughts?

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Posted by mississippivol on Friday, September 19, 2014 9:54 PM

Looks good to me!

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Posted by Seabe on Friday, September 19, 2014 10:46 PM

Shine on sidewalls should be fine. Take any shine of the running surface, though. With a file or whatever you used to clear off the mold line on the tyre to begin with.

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