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Posted by 68GT on Monday, April 13, 2015 4:59 AM

  As long as you paint the plastic with a good coat of paint (or chrome), there will be no interaction between the two.

That's probably why I haven't had a problem.

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Posted by HeavyArty on Sunday, April 12, 2015 4:53 PM

ikar01
Didn't I hear somewhere that rubber/vinyl tires on plastic eventually develop a problem like melting or something?  I have an armored car with vinyl tires and am a bit concerned that this might happen.

It can occur if the unpainted plastic is allowed to be in contact w/ the unpainted vinyl over a period of time.  As long as you paint the plastic with a good coat of paint (or chrome), there will be no interaction between the two.

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Posted by mississippivol on Sunday, April 12, 2015 3:30 PM

For unbuilt kits, keep the plastic and vinyl separated, especially if storing for a extended period of time, because they will interact with each other, and cause the "melting" you mentioned.

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Posted by 68GT on Sunday, April 12, 2015 3:22 PM

I've never seen that happen on any of the Revell, Monogram, AMT, MPC kits.  I still have a few builds from back around 1980.

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Posted by ikar01 on Sunday, April 12, 2015 3:09 PM

Didn't I hear somewhere that rubber/vinyl tires on plastic eventually develop a problem like melting or something?  I have an armored car with vinyl tires and am a bit concerned that this might happen.

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Posted by 68GT on Sunday, April 12, 2015 8:07 AM

I haven't done a thing except for painting a vinyl sprue with Tamiya.  

Thanks for the offer on the wheels also but I do Have some replacements.

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Posted by CodyJ on Sunday, April 12, 2015 2:42 AM

I haven't had probs w/ acrylic as don suggested but the vinyl paint can usually be found at an auto paint store specializing in auto finishes.  

I will look in my parts bin and show you the sets of tires I have.  If all else fails I can send you some.  I have a ton! LOL

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Posted by OctaneOrange on Friday, April 10, 2015 7:13 PM

tire black?

lol

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Posted by Chrisk-k on Tuesday, April 7, 2015 2:53 PM

If acrylic paint doesn't stick well, spray Future first and then a black acrylic paint.  Future sticks extremely well to rubber and vinyl tires.

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Posted by 68GT on Monday, April 6, 2015 8:50 PM

Thanks again

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Posted by goldhammer on Monday, April 6, 2015 7:15 PM

The midnite is a Ford interior and looks to be a little grayer than the other two.  They should have a page of color chips you can look at.

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Posted by 68GT on Monday, April 6, 2015 6:15 PM

Thanks,

If none of the local auto parts stores has it I have a paint shop I can visit.  They are sure to have it.

Any idea of what the differences are between the blacks?

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Posted by goldhammer on Monday, April 6, 2015 3:58 PM

Here are 3 numbers for SEM stuff:  #17503, Limo Flat Black: #17013, Midnite Black: and #17093, Black.  Parts house should be able to get it if not a stocking item.  Or check with a local body shop as to where they get their SEM stuff.

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Posted by 68GT on Monday, April 6, 2015 3:42 PM

I struck out at Walmart so I'll have to check the auto parts stores and see what they have.

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Posted by tankerbuilder on Monday, April 6, 2015 1:05 PM

AMEN ! !

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Posted by HeavyArty on Monday, April 6, 2015 10:00 AM

Your best and safest bet is the vinyl paint since it is made to stick to vinyl and not react with it.

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Posted by Don Stauffer on Monday, April 6, 2015 8:35 AM

I have had problems using acrylic on vinyl.

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Posted by CodyJ on Monday, April 6, 2015 12:04 AM

Yeah Acrylic semi-gloss black & a dull coat acrylic look good and hold up well.  I had to do that before.

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Posted by mississippivol on Sunday, April 5, 2015 9:00 PM

Acrylic paint will. Enamel paint like Testors in the square bottle won't. I do like Arty's suggestion, too. I was just trying to save you the trip.

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Posted by 68GT on Sunday, April 5, 2015 8:20 PM

The lacquer thinner did nothing but confirm it was mixed into the black vinyl.

Will acrylic paint stick well to the vinyl tires?

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Posted by JTRACING on Sunday, April 5, 2015 6:56 PM

Rub them down with lacquer thinner

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Posted by mississippivol on Sunday, April 5, 2015 2:42 PM

You should be able to use an acrylic hobby paint, too.

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Posted by 68GT on Sunday, April 5, 2015 1:06 PM

I whish they would switch back to the hard tires.

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Posted by Don Stauffer on Sunday, April 5, 2015 11:34 AM

But the market seems to demand tires that feel like rubber.  Personally I don't care what the feel is, nor whether it turns or not, but market seems to demand flexible feel and models that roll.  Or, at least that is what mfgs believe.  Let's face it, the youth market buys a lot more kits than serious modelers.

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Posted by HeavyArty on Sunday, April 5, 2015 9:46 AM

Get black vinyl paint at an auto parts store.  It is deigned to be painted on vinyl car parts and sticks to them perfectly.  They can then be dullcoated or glossed as desired.

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Posted by 68GT on Sunday, April 5, 2015 8:47 AM

I don't remember where or when I bought it but the shrink wrap was still on the kit.

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Posted by midnightprowler on Sunday, April 5, 2015 5:39 AM

Is this a new kit that you opened, or did you get it from someone else? That looks like gold paint to me.

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Vinyl Tire problem
Posted by 68GT on Saturday, April 4, 2015 10:03 PM

The Monogram 1995 Mustang GT I have has some kind off gold color contamination in the tires and look ugly.  I tried to clean them with Dawn and a toothbrush but that did no good as it must be in the mix and not on the surface.  How can I make these black again?

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