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Pocher 1/4 ducati Panigale

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Pocher 1/4 ducati Panigale
Posted by kpnuts on Tuesday, September 19, 2017 2:18 PM
Hi all well it's arrived man it's huge here is a pic of the box
And just for size comparison here it is along side a calor gas fire
The instruction manual
It's really well packaged
And here is the Paul Koo upgrade kit
I'm not allowed to start it till my birthday on the 26th of next month though (although I wasn't allowed to open it then);)
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  • From: Douglas AZ
Posted by littletimmy on Tuesday, September 19, 2017 5:40 PM

W O W ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! 

I know how many parts you are about to do battle with. The Porcher kits are detailed right down to the crankshaft, valve covers, gaskets, springs, ect.

So apperently you just have to add gas?

                      Dont worry about the thumbprint... paint it rust and call it "Battle damage" !

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  • From: From the Mit, but live in Mason, O high ho
Posted by hogfanfs on Tuesday, September 19, 2017 7:34 PM

That looks way too cool! I think the only thing better would be a 1:1 Panigale!

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Posted by kpnuts on Wednesday, September 20, 2017 2:08 AM

This is one of the new pocher kits after they were taken over by Airfix/Hornby so no internal engine parts (I think to try and make them more profitable) 

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Posted by Bugatti Fan on Wednesday, September 20, 2017 3:01 AM

The old Pocher classic car kits had full engine internal detail. Unless you were going to cut a large section from the engine all the crank, con rods, piston detail etc was lost from sight when built. A complete waste of time and effort let alone adding unnecessary cost to the kits.

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Posted by Bugatti Fan on Wednesday, September 20, 2017 3:08 AM

The old Pocher classic car kits had full engine internal detail. Unless you were going to cut a large section from the engine all the crank, con rods, piston detail etc was lost from sight when built. A complete waste of time and effort let alone adding unnecessary cost to the kits. I feel that Hornby Airfix have made the right decision with regard to internal engine detail by leaving it out. In real life you only see cutaways at major car and bike exhibitions.

Sorry about almost repeating last thread. Went into a wrong edit function.

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  • From: back country of SO-CAL, at the birth place of Naval Aviation
Posted by DUSTER on Wednesday, September 20, 2017 4:23 AM

Well this should keep you busy in the coming days. Doubt the missing internals will be noticed, as you “motor on”  with this build.

 

Steve

Building the perfect model---just not quite yet  Confused

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Posted by kpnuts on Wednesday, September 20, 2017 1:02 PM
Hi all well I've not actually started building it yet but I couldn't resist comparing it to the biggest scale I've built so far (1/6 bikes) these bikes are huge but putting the ducati crank case and gearbox along side it this is going to be enormous (baring in mind there are no cylinder heads or fuel intake on it) by the time I add those the engine will probably be twice this size.
I will probably being upsetting the purists among you as it won't be the box colours it will be a custom job.
I'm not at all bothered by the missing internals. The only bad part I've read about is the exhaust I will probably tackle that first.
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Posted by kpnuts on Wednesday, October 25, 2017 1:55 PM
Hi all well I won't be here on my birthday so I got permission to start it today.
I decided to start on the exhaust as it has been noted as the worst fitting part of the whole kit, this thing is huge the bit of the exhaust I've started is the length of a 1/24 car and that's basically just the down pipe. So here is the start of this massive kit, I must say I'm buzzing with excitement.
I've plugged some of the screw holes
Then decided to add the first missing detail, the welding seam on the curved outside and inside section of the exhaust (i will add the weld seam round the other side when its finally attached to the rest of it)
I've not glued the two sections together yet to make drilling of the holes for the oxygen sensors easier.
There's loads of detail you could add just to this part and I'm going to try and add it all, I did say TRY.
fox
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  • From: Coatesville, Pa.
Posted by fox on Wednesday, October 25, 2017 3:13 PM

Good luck with this build. Yes Looks real interesting. Can't wait to see what I learn from this. 

Jim  Captain

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I keep hitting "escape", but I'm still here.

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Posted by PFJN on Wednesday, October 25, 2017 3:54 PM

Cool,

Can't wait to see more. Smile

Pat

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Posted by kpnuts on Monday, October 30, 2017 4:39 PM

Hi all well after an update on my samsung tab s2 it has made it totally useless for posting on forums so I'm now stuck with this incredibly slow and clumsy laptop so here is the next installment. i was following silver911 build of this and decided to emulate his enhancement of the exhaust joins and copied his use of aluminium foil on them.

also I've added the thickening where the oxygen sensors go

[IMG]http://i67.tinypic.com/301m1oi.jpg

(its made from the phillips screw covers from a bedroom unit)

made a start on the engine too. Added some weathering as well. Put a rule in the last pic to give an idea of the size of this beast.

 

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Posted by kpnuts on Tuesday, October 31, 2017 3:36 PM

Made a start on the exhaust valve and made up the spring hangers soon be ready for priming.

Here's the pic that should have been there 

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Posted by kpnuts on Thursday, November 02, 2017 3:11 PM
Hi all I've started weathering the exhaust I'm using Uschi metal powders and a combination of copper and blue grey dry brushed on, still more to do but it looks promising
Added some more engine details like the generator wires
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Posted by kpnuts on Friday, November 03, 2017 3:19 PM
Hi all well here is the first disappointment with the upgrade kit he supplies the steel beads to make the banjo connectors for various connections but then tells you to use poacher 2 millimetre bolts for the head of the banjo connector (there are none supplied in the kit only cross head screws) I realise Paul has built loads of poacher kits, this is my first so I don't have any poacher 2 mill bolts, what I do have though is these.
So onwards and upwards
I've made the springs for the exhaust too.
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Posted by kpnuts on Saturday, November 04, 2017 1:34 PM
Hi all well (despite the gorgeous paint job on the kit parts) I've primed it ready for the new colour (I intend to leave this for at least a week to cure before adding the first coat of the two pack paint I have) 
Done some more to the engine
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Posted by kpnuts on Tuesday, November 07, 2017 2:37 PM
Hi all here is the next instalment. I got fed up with taking longer to find a part on the many sprues in this kit by looking for the small tab on each sprue with the letter I needed (I'm surprised I didn't think of this the 2 times I built the Traction Avant kit) I've written a large letter on each bag for which sprue is in it.  I've made the starter motor terminal from a piece of whittled down sprue  Added the oil cooler with the added layers and the banjo connector using Paul Coos detail adding info  And the finished starter motor.  Bit more weathering on the engine.  All in all I'm quite pleased with the progress (even if it's glacially slooooow)
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Posted by kpnuts on Wednesday, November 08, 2017 2:07 PM

 

HI ALL I  made this connector with some sprue, Paul Coos CD really is a mine of information (loads of reference pics of the actual parts, that's where I got the seams on the exhaust from)

This part is like a little kit in its own right

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Posted by kpnuts on Thursday, November 09, 2017 2:26 PM
Hi all i wanted to try and show you all just how big this is so, this is a 1/24 lorry engine.
Now put it on the engine and you get an idea of just how huge this is.
I just couldn't wait here is base colour (No clear lacquer yet)
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  • From: Douglas AZ
Posted by littletimmy on Thursday, November 09, 2017 7:55 PM

I still say " If you add gas that thing should fire right up ! "

Looking good so far. Can't wait to see the wheel's on it!  NICE BLUE !!!

                      Dont worry about the thumbprint... paint it rust and call it "Battle damage" !

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Posted by kpnuts on Sunday, November 12, 2017 2:06 PM

Well we've been away for the weekend at our friends caravan and I came back to a bit of a disaster

All the plastic parts are fine I couldn't work out what had gone wrong but now I have

No primer, I assume the plastic parts were primed hence they are ok.

I've removed the paint

(Another chance to see how big this is its nearly as long as my thigh)

Now I just have to 're prime it, I'm just wondering if I have enough of the blue left this thing is so big it took nearly a whole can to paint it(admittedly I did both sides of all the parts as I was not sure if the back of any parts could be seen) hopefully no more problems will occur.

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Posted by kpnuts on Monday, November 13, 2017 2:06 PM
Hi all repaired the tank. I have to say I really, really, really love this colour
Made the water pump too.
Did I mention how much I really, really, really love this colour.
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Posted by kpnuts on Tuesday, November 14, 2017 2:30 PM
Hi all well I've finished the tank and sprayed the clear coat on the rest of the paintwork.
Such a gorgeous colour (even if I do say so myself)
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  • From: Mid Michigan
Posted by shamoo on Tuesday, November 14, 2017 4:13 PM

It does look good. Nice work 

 

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  • From: the redlands Fl
Posted by crown r n7 on Tuesday, November 14, 2017 5:27 PM

thats detail ! very cool  

 

 

 

Nick

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Posted by kpnuts on Thursday, November 16, 2017 2:21 PM
Hi all started adding detail to the starter relay.
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Posted by kpnuts on Friday, November 17, 2017 2:09 PM
Hi all well I've detailed up the battery and added the upgrade kit decal (the smaller decal is the one that came with the kit.
I must say I am surprised with a kit of this size and price of the huge amount of missing detail, mostly seems to be wiring which surely wouldn't be that expensive to add to the kit.
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Posted by kpnuts on Saturday, November 18, 2017 12:43 PM

Hi all started on the fuel system added the butterfly valves made from aluminium foil onto which I put brass leaf.

Then I cut it to fit

Then cut a piece of sprue then halved it.

Covered it with the brass leaf then drilled two holes and added a couple of screws

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Posted by kpnuts on Sunday, November 19, 2017 2:33 PM
Hi all bit more added here (this is just the supplied detail loads of wiring and connectors still to add) ( I really don't know why they don't supply varying thicknesses of wire surly it wouldn't add more than a tenner to the cost of the kit)
As I said loads more detail to add but couldn't resist trying it on the engine.
Also got the tyres on the wheels (Man they are heavy, but great quality)
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Posted by kpnuts on Monday, November 20, 2017 1:17 PM
Hi all well here's the wiring added to the intake system and said system added to the engine (this thing is getting heavey)

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