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AMT ALF firetruck build progress (finally a new pic 5/18)

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  • From: Dahlonega, Georgia
AMT ALF firetruck build progress (finally a new pic 5/18)
Posted by lizardqing on Saturday, April 3, 2004 5:47 PM
I thought sice there were not very many firetrucks done around here that I would put my progress up as I build one. This is AMT's American LaFrance ladder chief kit. It is the older issue in the white box. Planning on doing the matching pumper as well. So far the only positive thing I can say about this kit is well it's a firetruck. Since this is about the only kit around for one, that is a given. After that it pretty much goes down hill. The parts came crammed several trees to a bag which in turn caused a whole lot of parts to get tangled up and broken off but since there is no numbering scheme to the parts them selves should not make to much of a difference to find the right piece. The instructions are another hit. It shows one side of the truck and does not give very detailed locations for alot of the parts. So put all this together and what a challenge this should be indeed. I'll post progress pics here for those that are interested to follow along and maybe someone else can pull together the courage to tackle this kit too one day on here.

This first picture shows the disaster I encountered when I opened the box. I don't think AMT would have gone bust had they put each part tree in its own bag.



4 hours into the kit this is what I have. Most of that time was spent figureing out where the parts were. As you can see this is going to be a big boy of a kit. I am probally going to leave the engine the primer color after looking around on the Detroit Desiel web site, thats about what they look like after they leave the factory. Probally will just paint up the filters,belts and fan. And of coarse give it the mandatory oil leak.



Hope there is some interest in this build, I look forward to it even with the problems for some sick reason.
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, April 3, 2004 10:53 PM
AWESOME chris!!!!!! Cant wait to see this one!!!!!!


You'll the pumper to sit along side this one, at hte end of the week!!!

Have fun!!! Chin up!!!
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, April 5, 2004 8:38 AM
looking good so far chris, just keep looking on the bright side, like you said , it's a fire truck.Big Smile [:D]Big Smile [:D]Bow [bow]Bow [bow]
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Posted by lizardqing on Monday, April 5, 2004 11:34 AM
Thanks guys. I put together the rear compartments yesterday. Think I wound up with with glue on every finger with those things. Of coarse AMT not letting down had 2 pieces with the wrong locations for them to. After some grumbleing, some shaving off of some styrene they finally fit right together. I'll get some more pics up soon.
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Posted by fightnjoe on Monday, April 5, 2004 11:45 AM
fantastic. cant wait to see the finished product.

joe

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Posted by lizardqing on Tuesday, April 6, 2004 4:07 PM
Thanks for the compliments guys here are some more pics, strating to look like a firetruck now a bit more. Figured out that this thing would have probally been easier to paint before it was built, but to late for that now. Painted the motor with a color my dad said was pretty much right on with the color of Detroit Desiels. Happens to be MM Hellgrun RLM 25. Actually got it to paint some tank interiors with . First pic show the pedestal on the truck. This thing was a wholelot of fun to get together Evil [}:)] The hydralic cylinders have a nasty seam in them fro where they came apart when I tried moving the beams up and down. Might just have the ladder be in a permanent stored postion. Put on a mist coat on the compartment doors too. The second pic is the chasis and support legs. Hopeing by the end of the week to have the body completed at least and have a start on the cab.





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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, April 6, 2004 4:58 PM
Wow great looking firetruck lizardqing2 and big too
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Posted by Keyworth on Tuesday, April 6, 2004 5:46 PM
Looks great, Chris. Keep the pics coming.
"There's no problem that can't be solved with a suitable application of high explosives"
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Posted by lizardqing on Tuesday, April 6, 2004 10:26 PM
Thanks guys, got a bunch done today so I wil probally get more up tommorow.
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Posted by lizardqing on Thursday, April 8, 2004 7:28 PM
Here's a few shots I took today. Been doing alot of masking , mostly cause I keep forgetting to paint something. I started to work on the interior a bit. Painted the floor aluminum and the rest black. The seats are Tamiya flat earth. My auto colors are somewhat limited. Still have the dash and the detail painting to go yet.



This is the area where I have masked and painted a few times now. Get done painting ,pull off the mask and realize that something else should have been metal or red. After a bit of touching up and some additional parts for the rar I should be ready to throw on a gloss coat.



Did wind up haveing to glue up the stabalizers due to a major piece involved in them being moveable being melted from the factory. So much for quality control.
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Posted by lizardqing on Wednesday, April 21, 2004 12:54 PM
The main ladder has been assembled and painted , still needs a wash which I think will really be a great touch. It is pretty good length to it. I put a 1/24 car next it in one pic for a ref. Also painted the compartment handles and put on the door handles and head light bases which will be one of the few things left with the kit chrome on them. Still have a good bit left to do. Planning on putting some aluminum tubeing for the exhaust and some rubber pads on the stabalizer feet. Just a slow build so far.





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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, April 21, 2004 1:00 PM
Awesome job chris!!! Can't wait to seeit finished!!!!!
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Posted by Buddho on Wednesday, April 21, 2004 4:24 PM
That is one great looking Truck...Chris!

Regards, Dan

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Posted by zokissima on Wednesday, April 21, 2004 4:38 PM
A fire truck?! Wow, definitely something different! Can't wait to see this done Smile [:)]
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Posted by lizardqing on Thursday, April 22, 2004 8:08 PM
Did some homemade improvements to it today, at least I like to think of them as improvements. Redid the kit exhaust with aluminum tubeing and added rubber pads to the stabalizer feet. Got those and most of the rear deck done today along with the wheels. Must say the tires are not the best I have ever dealt with. The Tamiya ones one the Dragon Wagon really spoiled me. Have to yet more painting and even more masking before I can do to much more.



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Posted by lizardqing on Thursday, April 22, 2004 8:10 PM
Apprecitae all the compliments. Helps alot with motivation to deal with all the problems the kit has.
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Posted by Buddho on Thursday, April 22, 2004 9:01 PM
Amazing job, Chris

It's nice to see the progress unfold on this kit, and how you are overcoming obstacles with inferior parts to create a beauty!

Regards, Dan

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Posted by fightnjoe on Friday, April 23, 2004 12:31 AM
looks awesome. thanks for sharing this one.

joe

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Posted by nicholma on Friday, April 23, 2004 4:30 AM
Thanks for taking the time to post the photos and comments on the build. Its all very interesting, I'm enjoying your labours!
Kia ora, Mark "Time flies like the wind, fruit flies like bananas"
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Posted by oldhooker on Saturday, April 24, 2004 11:57 AM
Hi Chris,

Looks like you're going to be churning out another show piece with this one!!!

Thanks, and I'll be watching for updates!!!

Take care,
Frank

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Posted by lizardqing on Saturday, April 24, 2004 12:11 PM
Thanks guys. Glad at least some one is enjoying this build. Wink [;)] been one that i am going to be glad see on the shelf. Here's another shot of it I took today after getting all the major chunks of it put together. I also redid the exhaust I made so it now sticks out from under the truck a bit. The kit called for it to end about halfway under the truck, not very realistic. After putting the grab handles on the cab and seeing them on they are really bugging me with how big they are, look way out of scale so i may try to come up with something to replace those with. I'm open for ideas on that. Also trying to figure out something to make some red lights for the rear. Going to be replaceing the front ones with a light bar. The kit ones are chrome pieces ( why they made clear red lights chrome I have no idea) and are to big to work for the back. A truck that big with out lights on the back would be a big no no, we even have to have them on the back of our own cars. Heres the pic, and if anyone has any ideas on those new scratchbuilt options, please share.

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Posted by lizardqing on Tuesday, May 18, 2004 11:15 PM
After almost a month with no real progress, I made the time to get some thing done on it. Finally got around to getting some of the stuff on the exterior of the cab and thats about it right now. Still have the portable ladders to paint and put on, other misc equipment, decals, front fenders, wash on the ladders and other little things. Thanks to Firemodelman I was able to replace the crappy red lights, which for some stupid reason were chrome pieces, with a light bar. I think it looks better than the bubbles anyway. The front window came out of the box with some wierd imprint or something another on them. Figured since I have no idea how to make windows and did not even want to waste time with AMT customer support, I went ahead and threw them on, alot of the window in our older trucks have a similar look anyway. Here is the one pic showing pretty much what I have gotten done lately.

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, May 18, 2004 11:46 PM
Thats impressive sir, well done. Considering that Erlt kits can be difficult at best (I did a Coke Delivery Truck that was like that) you did a class one job and fire trucks are definetly something different and should look good on display
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