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Has Anyone Tried?
Posted by Tanker-Builder on Sunday, May 17, 2020 11:26 AM

This is interesting.

     Now, those of you who like some of the High Dollar cars from the 50s and 60s. Do you like them dressed up with Wire Wheels? Like the offerings in the Lindberg 53 Ford Convertible? I certainly do. I would put Wires on a jeep if I thought it would look right.

     Why such a Hangup on these wheels? Well, over the years many have come down the pike. Some very well done, But, not finished. What I mean by finished, is they have a wire back as well, and you can see through them.

    Some were molded so well that on a gussied - up Curbside they looked WOW! They came in an A.M.T.Kit.  They looked great on Cobras and Caddies, Chrysler300 and T-Birds.Then there the Rivieras . Now the ones on the Ford Convertible were the top of the line Kelsey-Hayes for American Iron.

     They were slightly different from Ford to G.M.and Chrysler. Why? Spoke count. The spoke count was the key as well as the center diameter of the spindles. If you took an A.M.T. Model"B" 1932 stock Ford wire rim, and painted it silver, it looked great on say, a 64 Riviera.

       I asked a person I knew about ordering rims. His reply was an address I since have lost. But the rims I got, Enough for a dozen cars were the Lindberg style Kelsey Hayes versions, Chromed.

       The other ones I spoke of I could never find in aftermarket or regular market parts packs. The Flat Spoke type ( Low-Riders and AutoDancers, Think Hoppin Hydros) are Not in my parts drawer and never will be.

    Sadly many of the After-Market vendors/mfgrs . never saw fit to create any wires for anything but Ferraris. So did I miss something? Are so many Ferraris sold that the modeler can only get copies of parts just for them?

      If you get a chance, get a real good set of wires and put them on your Next Chrysler 300. You will be suitable impressed. Oh, they look great on Revell's 57 Cadillac El-Dorado Broughham too! I have been informed that there is a set out there for American cars in P.E. They must not like me. They are either sold out or ,"we don't carry that brand".

        If you get a chance and like wires, try the Lindberg type. Or use a Molotow Chrome pen on the AMT Model "B" ones.

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Posted by GMorrison on Sunday, May 17, 2020 11:40 AM

A very interesting post, TB.

My interest in car models and my level of skills at the time did not a fit make; to try wire wheels. I even bought a 1/43 Ferrari 250 GTO but the wheels never happened.

More recently I have built a 1/9 scale bike and plan to start a 1/12 Tamiya GT bike. It has a bunch of upgrade kits such as wire spoke wheels and an individual link chain from PE.

I have a couple of Hubley cast kits out in the barn IIR, I think the wheels are chromed plastic.

I wouldn't think PE would work too well.

 

Bill

 

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Posted by midnightprowler on Sunday, May 17, 2020 1:53 PM

I like wires and some cars really look classy with them but I probably wouldn't use them if they weren't offered from the factory.

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Posted by Don Stauffer on Sunday, May 17, 2020 2:30 PM

What I want are the large diameter skinny width wheels from the twenties and thirties.  Most passenger cars came with them, and all racecars did until the mag and aluminum ones came along in the fifties.

I remember the great Finecast lace-it-yourself ones that came with resin racecar kits like Etzel, Frontmotor and Jorgenson came with.

 

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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Posted by keavdog on Sunday, May 17, 2020 2:45 PM

I know zero about wire wheels but Pegasus have quite a few.  

Thanks,

John

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Posted by Tanker-Builder on Tuesday, May 19, 2020 10:31 AM

Hi Bill!

    I did some cruisin yeaterday and found a 1/12 I believe, "Benz Motor Wagon". I discovered that the wire wheels on that, ( Very Delicate) are indeed P.E. Now the problem there is this. How do you take flat P.E.and make it round?

   Found my answer when I took an old 1/43 Cobra kit from Monogram. This little beastie had Wires in P.E. I re-did it and used the Molotow pen on the wheels. It worked!

   So on the Benz you could use a black paint pen. Oh, before I forget,There was an articla in Scale Auto some time back, ( Way Back?) that showed how to make your own wires. It definitely works!

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Posted by Don Stauffer on Saturday, May 23, 2020 9:15 AM

Tanker-Builder

Hi Bill!

    I did some cruisin yeaterday and found a 1/12 I believe, "Benz Motor Wagon". I discovered that the wire wheels on that, ( Very Delicate) are indeed P.E. Now the problem there is this. How do you take flat P.E.and make it round?

   Found my answer when I took an old 1/43 Cobra kit from Monogram. This little beastie had Wires in P.E. I re-did it and used the Molotow pen on the wheels. It worked!

   So on the Benz you could use a black paint pen. Oh, before I forget,There was an articla in Scale Auto some time back, ( Way Back?) that showed how to make your own wires. It definitely works!

 

I have that kit on order- it is supposed to arrive next week.  I ordered it almost two months ago but I hear air shipping from Europe is a real problem because so many flights have been cancelled.

Hopefully the spokes are narrow enough your eyes will have a hard time noticing the contour.  I prime and paint PE spokes and paint dries on narrow parts in sort of an oval cross section, softening the edges.  I intend to use woodgrain decals like the guy who did the WIP previously.

I have one remaining set of those Finecast wheels.  I am going to make a 20s Fronty dirt track car using the frame and engine from the AMT police Model T, those wheels, and a scratch body.

 

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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Posted by GMorrison on Saturday, May 23, 2020 10:17 AM

I used to be OK at building bicycle wheels. There's a fair amount to it.

My last motorcycle model had styrene castings that were really nice (Italeri)

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Posted by oldermodelguy on Monday, May 25, 2020 6:07 PM

What looks nice to me with wires is old classics, even some hot rods and they don't have to be/often shouldn't be chrome. From there sports cars and to me from there, of the early 50's era iron sleds, the Buicks. It's tough to even find a Buick model much less wire wheels that are right for it ! Now I grew up in the 50's and 60's but it was pretty rare to see a new car with wire wheels but still..

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