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Tamiya 1/12 Tyrrell P34 (six wheeler) WIP (Update Sep. 27).

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Posted by GreySnake on Thursday, August 20, 2020 10:01 AM
The Tyrrell is coming along nicely. Nice fix on the exhaust. Like RG my father also had problems on the 1/20 version as well. Think he taught me new swear words while building it.  
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Posted by JohnnyK on Thursday, August 20, 2020 3:43 PM

Six sets of wheels and tires are included in the kit. The tires are REALLY NICE!! Very soft rubber with Goodyear embossed on the sidewall. 

This picture of the actual car shows the small size of nthe front tires. It also shows the dirt/dust on the tread and siewall. Also note the metal valve stem. It would be nice to duplicate that look.

I purchased metal vale stems from RB Motion. They sell very nice stuff.

The kit includes Goodyear tire decals. Too bad that there are no instructions as to how to apply them. However, I did find a video on youtube showing how to apply them. It's nice that extra decals are included.

First I cut the decals from the sheet. I trimmed the backing sheet as close to the decal as possible. I also cut the decal in half for easier handeling.

There is a backing sheet on the back face of the decal and a carrier film on the front of the decal. The backing sheet needs to be removed before applying the decal.

Next the decal needs to be located on the tire. The carrier film is not clear so it is difficult to accurately locate the decal on the tire.

I placed my finger in a container of water and patted the decal with my finger so that is was wet. The carrier film easily slides off of the decal. Bad news---the decal does not slide on the tire so it is impossible to relocate the decal after it is applied. I tried using decal setting liquid to make the decal flatten out. That just caused the decal to fall apart. Luckly, extra decals are included in the kit.

The final result is pretty good. Next up is adding some dirt to the tire..

 

 

 

 

Your comments and questions are always welcome.

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Posted by BrandonK on Friday, August 21, 2020 9:31 AM

Well, that lettering on the tires worked out far better than I expected. It looks good. Nice progress thus far.

BK

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Posted by JohnnyK on Friday, August 21, 2020 1:19 PM

Very time consuming.

Your comments and questions are always welcome.

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Posted by TheMongoose on Friday, August 21, 2020 2:32 PM

Dam nice work! Tires look like they have been on the track with those decals. 

In the pattern: Scale Shipyard's 1/48 Balao Class Sub! leaning out the list...NOT! Ha, added to it again - Viper MkVii, 1/32 THUD & F-15J plus a weekend madness build!

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  • From: Maryland
Posted by wpwar11 on Friday, August 21, 2020 6:19 PM

I’m just finishing Tamiya’s 1/20 Ferrari 640.  It also has the reverse tire decals.  Mine came with instructions but they are vague and confusing.  I also searched the net for the proper installation method.  They look nice.  For me it’s tough to see where they are placed before you commit to water and adhesion.  

Looking forward to how your going to put dirt on the tire.

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Posted by JohnnyK on Friday, August 21, 2020 8:34 PM

wpwar11

I’m just finishing Tamiya’s 1/20 Ferrari 640.  It also has the reverse tire decals.  Mine came with instructions but they are vague and confusing.  I also searched the net for the proper installation method.  They look nice.  For me it’s tough to see where they are placed before you commit to water and adhesion.  

Looking forward to how your going to put dirt on the tire.

 

It's very difficult to see how to locate the decals on the tires. It's just  bad engineering. 

Your comments and questions are always welcome.

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  • From: Close to Chicago
Posted by JohnnyK on Saturday, August 22, 2020 11:31 AM

Before I apply a wash to the tires, let me share this little trick with you. The balancing weights on some race cars are secured with tape. I glued a small, thin piece of plastic to the wheel and then covered it with Bare Metal Foil to simulate tape.

Note the dust and dirt in the actual tire, especially on the brand name. 

This is what I used to simulate dust and dirt. This is a WATER BASED wash. It is reactivated by water. If you goof up, you can easily remove the dried wash from the tire with a paper towel dipped in water. A typical acrylic wash will not work.

Regarding the tread of the tire, first I dipped my paintbrush into the wash and then into some water to thin the wash. I applied a thick coat of thinned wash to the tread. Then I rolled the tire with the wet wash over a paper towel until I achieved the desired result. Super easy.

The wash was applied to the sidewall in the same manner. After I applied the wash I pressed the wet wash onto a paper towel to remove the excess wash. After the wash dried I used a dry, short bristled paint brush and brushed the wash to even out the wash. Don't handle the finished tires with wet fingers. The wash will come off on your fingers. I used a white ink roller ball pen to apply the left side, right side marks on the tires.

Your comments and questions are always welcome.

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  • From: Honolulu, Hawaii
Posted by Real G on Monday, August 24, 2020 3:59 PM

Huh, I never noticed the wheel weights; not paying attention again!  I thought you were talking about those four beveled squares with the bolts on the rim.  I added them to the 1/20 kit, but have no idea what they were supposed to be.

I used some PE stencils for the "Goodyear" logos on my kit's tires since the aftermarket set I used didn't have any molded lettering.

The slight overspray was OK since period photos show the same.  I still need to scribble the handwritten notes on the sidewalls.

Keep going, you are making terrific progress!

“Ya ya ya, unicorn papoi!”

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Posted by JohnnyK on Monday, August 24, 2020 7:17 PM

Real G

Huh, I never noticed the wheel weights; not paying attention again!  I thought you were talking about those four beveled squares with the bolts on the rim.  I added them to the 1/20 kit, but have no idea what they were supposed to be.

I used some PE stencils for the "Goodyear" logos on my kit's tires since the aftermarket set I used didn't have any molded lettering.

The slight overspray was OK since period photos show the same.  I still need to scribble the handwritten notes on the sidewalls.

Keep going, you are making terrific progress!

 

I have no idea what those strange beveled squares on the wheels are. Those PE stencils are super!!!! Where did you get those?

Your comments and questions are always welcome.

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Posted by JohnnyK on Tuesday, August 25, 2020 1:14 PM

This is the finished chassis. The cooling hoses for the front brakes are actually black springs. 

I used black masking tape on the steering wheel to simulate leather wrap.

 

 

Your comments and questions are always welcome.

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Posted by JohnnyK on Tuesday, August 25, 2020 1:19 PM

PE details were included in the kit for the radiators and oil cooler.

Your comments and questions are always welcome.

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  • From: Indiana, USA
Posted by Greg on Tuesday, August 25, 2020 1:26 PM

You're doing some very nice work on that beastie. Yes

Thanks for walking us through the tire weathering. Will you need spray a clear flat of some sort to make them handleable?

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Posted by JohnnyK on Tuesday, August 25, 2020 1:37 PM

The wash shouldn't come off of the tires as long as your fingers are dry. However, I'll try using a flat clear on the back face of the tire to see what happens. 

Your comments and questions are always welcome.

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Posted by Real G on Tuesday, August 25, 2020 1:53 PM

JohnnyK

 I have no idea what those strange beveled squares on the wheels are. Those PE stencils are super!!!! Where did you get those?

They came from a Studio 27 detail set.

I went online to look it up, and noticed they issued new PE sets that corrected some of the boneheaded errors in the set I have.  And I already fixed those parts myself.  Gubnubbit.

“Ya ya ya, unicorn papoi!”

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  • From: Indiana, USA
Posted by Greg on Tuesday, August 25, 2020 3:03 PM

JohnnyK
The wash shouldn't come off of the tires as long as your fingers are dry.

That works. I remember that Tamiya tire material from long ago, and that was before I knew about weathering. Just curious, and now I know....thanks. Toast

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Posted by JohnnyK on Tuesday, August 25, 2020 4:34 PM

The Tamyia tires are really nice. Very soft rubber and a lot of detail embossed on the side walls: tire size, tire pressure, arrow indicating rotation direction, Goodyear name.

Your comments and questions are always welcome.

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Posted by JohnnyK on Monday, September 7, 2020 11:23 AM

The "cow catcher" Was painted with Tamyia TS-15 "blue". The kit includes PE straps at the splitter. I glued the staps to the splitter and the "cow catcher" with Gator's Grip craft glue.

On the actual 1:1 car the rear wing was supported by aluminum brackets. On my model I finished the  brackets with Bare Metal Foil aluminum.  I gave the BMF a quick swipe of 0000 steel wool to simulate the natural grain of aluminum.

Your comments and questions are always welcome.

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Posted by Greg on Monday, September 7, 2020 1:40 PM

JohnnyK
On my model I finished the brackets with Bare Metal Foil aluminum. I gave the BMF a quick swipe of 0000 steel wool to simulate the natural grain of aluminum.

And it looks very convincing. Yes Clever idea.

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Posted by JohnnyK on Tuesday, September 8, 2020 1:24 PM

The radiators on the 1:1 car are located on the side of the body adjacent to the engine. There are small sections of radiator hose with hose clamps that connect the coolant pipes together.

The kit provides radiator hoses made of vinyl. The shape of the hoses are molded for hose clamps, but the kit does not include hose clamps.

I built a 1/12 scale Ford GT40 Mk2 a few years ago. Included with the kit was a sheet of PE radiator hose clamps. The clamps will look nice on this build.

It took a while and a lot of patience, but I finally added clamps to the hoses. 

The top photo shows the hoses without clamps and the bottom photo shows the hoses with clamps. The pipes were painted with Testors MM Metalizer Stainless Steel. After the paint dried it was polised and finished with a clear coat.  I think that the clamps look good. Too bad that the hoses are so thick.

 

Your comments and questions are always welcome.

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Posted by JohnnyK on Friday, September 11, 2020 3:33 PM

The body didn't fit properly to the monocoque frame. A few clamps held the parts in alignment until the glue set.

 

Your comments and questions are always welcome.

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Posted by JohnnyK on Thursday, September 17, 2020 3:39 PM

Tamiya saved the most fun for last (can you smell sarcasm?). The final steps of this model is to install rubber oil lines and coolant pipes.

The coolant pipes (red arrow) need to be snaked under the suspensiion rods and ignition wiring. Really difficult because there is no space for your fingers. 

This is a photo of the actual 1:1 car. Note the compression fitting on the end of the oil line (red arrow). I figured that I could duplicate the look of the compression fitting by using thin strips of wine bottle foil (duplicate = unnecessary work).

The final result looks nice, except that the wine bottle foil prevents the rubber tubing from stretching over the plastic fittings. I broke a couple of fittings trying to force the tubing over the fittings. 

Your comments and questions are always welcome.

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Posted by TheMongoose on Thursday, September 17, 2020 4:03 PM

Very realistic work! Love what your doing with this.

In the pattern: Scale Shipyard's 1/48 Balao Class Sub! leaning out the list...NOT! Ha, added to it again - Viper MkVii, 1/32 THUD & F-15J plus a weekend madness build!

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Posted by JohnnyK on Thursday, September 17, 2020 8:01 PM

Oh,oh!!!!! I just dumped an open bottle of Testors Chrome paint onto my lap Censored Censored. Time for a "double" cocktail.

Your comments and questions are always welcome.

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Posted by JohnnyK on Sunday, September 27, 2020 11:29 AM

The radiator and oil cooler assembly was a real pain to install. First the black pipe support bracket had to be glued in place and the glue had to set overnight. Then the oil cooler was glued in place and the glue had to set overnight. Ditto for the radiator. Then the coolant pipes were fished under the ignition wiring and glued in place. Next the oil lines were installed. Finally the black suspension control arms were installed. 

Well, I finally finished installing the radiators, oil coolers, coolant pipes and the oil lines. Next are adding the decals, attaching the body panes and tires. Then I'm finished.

 

Your comments and questions are always welcome.

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Posted by GlennH on Sunday, September 27, 2020 12:04 PM

Amazing work.

A number Army Viet Nam scans from hundreds yet to be done:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/southwestdreams/albums/72157621855914355

Have had the great fortune to be on every side of the howitzers.

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Posted by JohnnyK on Sunday, September 27, 2020 12:55 PM

I can understang why Tamiya  makes very few 1/12 scale kits. The engineering cost to design and produce hundreds of unique parts must be outrageous. 

Your comments and questions are always welcome.

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