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What is the secret to gluing in windows to car bodies?

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What is the secret to gluing in windows to car bodies?
Posted by JonBailey on Tuesday, December 21, 2021 11:43 AM

This is so the job is done neatly without the glue becoming visible from the outside of the assembled model. Testor's liquid cement must go on bare/unpainted plastic. It will summarily eat paint and dissolve it. The window frames will be painted around the edges on both the inside and outside so paint-eating liquid cement is not feasible here. Gorilla Glue is thick and goopy. It doesn't eat paint but it hard to work with. I don't want glue showing anywhere on the window glass or body. Is there a good video tutorial on this? 

 

Ideally, I'd like a thin liquid adhesive that will stick to paint without harming the paint. One that can be neatly applied along edges of window panes without running or smearing. 

 

Actually, I'm building the AMT Kenworth W-925 truck tractor kit. There are individual door windows, rear window and windshield window panes for the cab. These windows fit right against the window posts so there is not much surface overlap between the window glass and the window frame. Any adhesives used must not attack paint or clear plastic to damage it. They must not dissolve paint. They must be able to be appied very neatly without showing on clear plastic.

 

In this video, AUTOMOBILE window glass fits up under the body top in the form of a canopy so there is a lot of hidden overlapping surface to glue the window glass work inside the body. 

How-To-Glue in your model car windshield's.wmv - YouTube

 

Also, there a better adhesive than Krazy Glue, Testors Liquid Cement or Gorilla Glue for general plastic model assembly? I want a strong, non-goopy and neatly-applied adhesive that doesn't harden too fast so parts can be perfectly positioned into place. Of course, it must adhere well to painted surfces and NOT DAMAGE PAINT. 

Current Model Worked On; 1/25 AMT Kenworth W-925 Tractor Kit, Future Models; 1/25 AMT Wilson Cattle Trailer, 1/96 Atlantis Boeing 727, 1/48 AMT Bell 205 Helicopter

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Posted by goldhammer88 on Tuesday, December 21, 2021 12:18 PM

I use Pacer 560 for attaching glass and canopies.  Dries clear, won't eat paint.  Any excess can be cleaned off with a damp q-tip, before it dries.

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Posted by JonBailey on Tuesday, December 21, 2021 12:20 PM

Does this Pacer product work well for general model assembly besides clear parts? 

Current Model Worked On; 1/25 AMT Kenworth W-925 Tractor Kit, Future Models; 1/25 AMT Wilson Cattle Trailer, 1/96 Atlantis Boeing 727, 1/48 AMT Bell 205 Helicopter

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Posted by Pawel on Tuesday, December 21, 2021 12:22 PM

White glue.

For windows and for PE badges

All comments and critique welcomed. Thanks for your honest opinions!

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Posted by JonBailey on Tuesday, December 21, 2021 12:29 PM

Elmers white glue will dissolve in water. There will be times I will expose my models to distilled water as when cleaning dirty grime from them with a brush. 

 

My model adhesives must:

 

-be neat

-be neatly applied

-be strong when cured

-not set too quickly like Krazy Glue

-not be upset by water or dampness when cured

-adhere to painted parts well but not harm paint

-adhere well to chromed parts

 

Another thing, Testors Liquid Cement doesn't adhere well to chrome-plated parts like truck rims and tire rings. 

Current Model Worked On; 1/25 AMT Kenworth W-925 Tractor Kit, Future Models; 1/25 AMT Wilson Cattle Trailer, 1/96 Atlantis Boeing 727, 1/48 AMT Bell 205 Helicopter

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Posted by MR TOM SCHRY on Tuesday, December 21, 2021 12:41 PM

I've used the Testors Clear Window Maker glue, Elmers glue, and Chris on the Youtube channel "HPIGUYS Workshop" uses Mod Podge.

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Posted by Mr Mike on Tuesday, December 21, 2021 1:51 PM

I use Mod Podge and it works great!

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Posted by goldhammer88 on Tuesday, December 21, 2021 2:06 PM

JonBailey

Does this Pacer product work well for general model assembly besides clear parts? 

 

Never tried it, but would say a definite NO.

Not designed for general use.

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Posted by Eaglecash867 on Tuesday, December 21, 2021 2:30 PM

I use Devcon 2-ton epoxy for mounting any clear parts.  Doesn't harm the clear plastic or the paint.

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Posted by rocketman2000 on Tuesday, December 21, 2021 3:52 PM

I use the UV hardening glue.  However you need access to EDGE of joint.  If the edge is unavailable then I go to epoxy.

 

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Posted by the Baron on Tuesday, December 21, 2021 3:58 PM

JonBailey

Elmers white glue will dissolve in water. There will be times I will expose my models to distilled water as when cleaning dirty grime from them with a brush...

True, white glue aka PVA glue, like Elmer's is water-soluable, but getting a little water on it will not immediately dissolve the glue and destroy the bond.  I would use white glue, if I were you.

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Posted by armornut on Tuesday, December 21, 2021 5:34 PM

   Once fully dry PVA takes ALOT of water to re goo it. You should be ok, plus no fogged windows from solvent or CA.

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Posted by JonBailey on Tuesday, December 21, 2021 6:48 PM

I live in humid SW Oklahoma. I've used Elmer's white glue on the feet of my animal figurines to anchor them down to a wooden painted 2x6 platform I made to set on my window sill. The figurines need to be anchored so the wind doesn't blow them over while the window is open. It did not take long for dampness in the air to weaken the glue points so the figurines came loose in short order. I had to wash the glue off the animals feet and the board with water. It's not too hard to dissolve. I've since used that blue putty stuff, Fun Tak by Loctite, to anchor my figurines. I put one tiny ball of this stuff under each animal's foot or hoof and press each figurine down on the board into postion. Works like a charm and figurines are easy to remove this way too. No mess. 

I use a small drop of silicone sealant to attach my sitting German shepherd dog figure to the deck of my R/C police boat. A small dab under the dog's butt will do here. Good for this purpose. Waterproof for models in marine enviroments. Dried clear silicone caulking allows for removal of attached figures easily with dental floss and peels away easily and cleanly with fingers. 

Clean-removing Fun Tak is very handy for our hobby too like holding model parts in place or small parts on sticks for painting. Fun Tak easy to remove cleanly from surfaces by rolling or pressing a ball of this stuff against any Fun Tak residue left on the surface. 

 

Current Model Worked On; 1/25 AMT Kenworth W-925 Tractor Kit, Future Models; 1/25 AMT Wilson Cattle Trailer, 1/96 Atlantis Boeing 727, 1/48 AMT Bell 205 Helicopter

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Posted by the Baron on Wednesday, December 22, 2021 10:11 AM

Yeah, I use Scotch/3M poster putty for things like sticking a piece temporarily to hold it, or as masking.

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Posted by PatW on Wednesday, December 22, 2021 4:33 PM

I use(when I can get it) Revell Clear Glue, in a bottle like the ordinary glue to build the kits but dries clear.

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