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1964 Econoline

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    July 2015
Posted by MR TOM SCHRY on Sunday, January 15, 2023 9:10 AM

MAN!  I love that stance of that van.  It just looks so TOUGH!

tjs

TJS

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    December 2022
  • From: Canada
Posted by Tcoat on Sunday, January 15, 2023 8:50 AM

Quick mockup using the Dodge body. Looks like I am  going to need to trim a hair off the barstool height but the cabinet is bang on. There is no way the front seats will fit in using the locators. They don't even clear the kit body so need to move closer together. I raised the rear about 3 scale inches when I built the suspension so the rake looks about right.

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  • From: Canada
Posted by Tcoat on Sunday, January 15, 2023 8:11 AM

MR TOM SCHRY

Tcoat, I really like this build.  I'm a big fan of the custom van craze of the 1970's so any panel van from the 1960's-1970's is of intereswt to me.  I'll be following this build along closely.

tjs

 

The real thing was built by a guy in 1974 so it was a very early member of the custom van craze. It had passed through a couple of people before I got it and I soon discovered why.

The 351 Windsor engine they had crammed into it was just to much power for driving in anything but the best of weather. Nobody dynoed it to see what the actual horse power was but it had a performance cam, four barrel, headers and a few other performance upgrades I just don't recall. Combined with the placement and light weight f the van it was almost impossible to drive when wet out or even if the tires got to cold. It was also an hour job to pull things apart just to check and fill the oil. 

The C6 auto transmission in it had the most wonky home made linkage ever. If you left it in park while running for more than a minute it would pop into reverse all on it's own. 

On the plus side, in warm weather when you could get traction, it would pick the front wheels off the ground for 50 feet!

I eventually got bored/frustrated with it and sold it (at a hefty profit) right in the heart of the van craze. Nostalgia has now twisted my perspective of it and if I could get it back, as it was, tomorrow I would!

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    July 2015
Posted by MR TOM SCHRY on Saturday, January 14, 2023 10:28 PM

Tcoat, I really like this build.  I'm a big fan of the custom van craze of the 1970's so any panel van from the 1960's-1970's is of intereswt to me.  I'll be following this build along closely.

tjs

TJS

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    December 2022
  • From: Canada
Posted by Tcoat on Saturday, January 14, 2023 5:57 PM

Paint starts to bring things to life. The top of the cabinet was that sort of psychedelic woodgrain pattern that anybody over about 55 years of age will recognize. The carpet, although not shag was a heavier pile than you get using embossing powder so it is short turf fibers used in model railroads. I think I missed a narrow black line between the bigger sections of the carpet but once body is on won't see much of it anyway. 

And all painted up. The dash is coming with the Flintstone body and will have white panels like the doors, seats and doghouse have. The blanket will be familiar to pretty much anybody with military, police or firefighting experience anyplace in the world. You can probably feel the itching kicking in already. Still need to make an 8 track player for the cabinet but have to did up a chrome radio I know I have someplace for that. Nothing but the front seat are glued on yet since I need to have the body to ensure spacing is correct. 

 

As far as I know there are no existing pictures of the real thing but most of the details are etched in my brain even after al this time so it is very accurate at least in my head.

That's it for now since...

I ain't got no body

 

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    December 2022
  • From: Canada
1964 Econoline
Posted by Tcoat on Saturday, January 14, 2023 11:24 AM

  And now for the rest of the story...

 

While shopping the Jimmie Flintstone site for a 58 Chevy body I stumbled across the '61-'65 Econoline panel body. I was over joyed to find it as it is a major vehicle in the Cars I used to Own series of builds.

 

The Flintstone site does not ship to Canada and anybody that sells the body here charges WAY more I had a buddy in Vancouver Washington order it and he then shipped it to me. It is still in transit as of this writing. 

Since the first generation Econoline's have never been kitted the body is designed to go with he chassis and interior from the Lindberg Lil Red Wagon/Dodge fever Dodge A100 pickup kit. After a long search for one of these available for a price that did not require a second mortgage on the house I managed to score one from a reasonably close toy store/hobby shop. As these have not been released for several years I was beginning to think I would have to sell a kidney to complete this project

Although it is a Dodge interior the basics are close enough for anybody  but the most diehard early sixties van fanatic. In fact it looks like Dodge didn't even try to hide that they were copying the Econoline.

 

The knowledgeable amongst you are probably saying "But Tcoat the Econoline only came with a six cylinder engine and that is clearly a V8". Well that is actually convenient for me as my '64 had a 351W and C6 tranny from a 96 Fairlane crammed into that doghouse between the seats. So with some blue paint and a bit of squinting the kit318(?) now becomes a 351. It isn't like you are going to see much beyond the very bottom anyway

 

I bought the van already built in late 78 and it had  already been done up in pretty much standard vantasic style. There was a bench in the rear that folded down to a bed, a cabinet from an early sixties RV with an 8 track player in it, an ugly (by todays standards) carpet and some early '70s house speakers mounted up in the rear corners The two pieces of foam for the bench/bed were hard to "sleep" on as they always pulled apart so I screwed the base down and threw a cheap RV sized mattress on it. I also wanted a chair so borrowed (forever) an old mid sixties bar stool from my parents and screwed it to the plywood floor. It of course would have meant instant death for anybody riding on it in the event of a crash by those were the invincible days. 

So I had to make a bunch of stuff up

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