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Ford Models
Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, July 3, 2005 8:47 PM
Hey fellas,

I work at a Ford dealership. I'd like a couple of models to build and display in my office...the 2005 Mustang and the 2005 GT (remake of the GT40).

I can't seem to find anybody who makes those models....any of you fine people know where I can get them? And how do the model manufacturers determine what cars to model and what cars not to?
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  • From: Roanoke, Virginia
Posted by BigJim on Sunday, July 3, 2005 9:46 PM
I have a GT in diecast so I'm sure there will be a Mustang in diecast soon.
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  • From: Dahlonega, Georgia
Posted by lizardqing on Monday, July 4, 2005 1:12 AM
I believe the new Mustangs will be out this fall in kit form.

Revell has the GT coming out in Sept. http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXFXE3&P=7

And Polar Lights is supposed to be releasing a couple includeing a convertible.
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, July 4, 2005 1:16 AM
Yeah, my general manager has a diecast prototype of the Mustang in his office. I'd rather build a plastic model and add detail, since I have the real thing in my showroom to go by.

I'm an aircraft builder, but I just wonder why the most uncommon and unconventional aircraft on the drawing boards are modelled while some of the most common cars on the road are ignored by the model manufacturers. I know popularity and supply/demand plays a huge part, but the most obscure Italian fighter of WWII can easilly be found while the most common automobile is brushed-off.
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, July 4, 2005 1:19 AM
I must've been typing while you posted, Chris. Thanks for that link. I guess I overlooked Revell. Glad to see they'll be producing that model. I'll get it for sure. Thanks!!!!
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Posted by rangerj on Monday, July 4, 2005 11:06 AM
In this day and age of lawsuits and legal liability the product manufacturers want a royalty agreement for the use of their "brand name", aka their "trademark", before they will allow a model to be distributed. Add the name "Shelby" and that requires another agreement.

The name Ford GT 40 is a good example. It belongs to someone other than Ford. Thus the new version of the car is named the Ford GT with out the "40".

Ford was going to produce a new vehicle using the old 60s name Futura. Unfortunately Pep Boys has that name protected for a brand of tires they sell, and stopped Ford from using it. Chevy was sued by the gun manufacturer for the use of the name "Baretta". Chevy lost the case and had to pay for the use of the name.

There is an ongoing battle with the aircraft industry over their demands to be paid royalties on aircraft they produce for the U.S. government. The aircraft name and configuration should be "public" property because they are paid for by the U.S. taxpayers. Should there be a royalty paid on a kit of the F-22 Raptor?

So, in answer to your question the reason some models of cars are not yet kitted is because the model companies have to jump through a lot of legal hoops before they get permission to profit from the intellecual property of the auto manufacturer.

I am also wiating for a model of the Ford GT and the new Mustang, and also the new Shelby GT 500 Mustang. Some day soon, I hope we will see the kits.
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, July 5, 2005 1:48 AM
Holy cow, ranger....I never knew building a model was a federal case (literally). Thanks for the heads-up.

There's no way I'm gonna be able to scratch build those cars so I guess the Ford-supplied posters to our dealership will have to do for now...
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Posted by rangerj on Tuesday, July 5, 2005 8:08 AM
I have heard that the royalty paid to the manufacturer is about $0.50 per kit. The royalty is paid in multiples if there are other brand names used in the kit. For example, if the car is Ford, the tires are goodyear, the driver is Earnhart, and the NASCAR emblem is used then the royalties ar multiplied as everybody wants their share. This is why a plane model, without all the product names is about $15, and a NASCAR model with a driver identified is about $20.

The time delay for the new Ford models may be that Ford is holding out for the highest bidder. The Revell/Monogram Mustang model is already been anounced and should be on the shelves soon. The model of the GT should not be far behind. I have heard that the contract with Shelby America has been or will be signed soon so the Shelby Mustang model will be produced soon after the real thing is released.

If you look at models of cars about 15 years ago you will see "Goodyear" or Firestone" on the tires, and you would commonly see decals for other common items such as Fram oil filters, Moon eye hubcaps, etc. All this is gone because EVERYBODY now wants a piece of the pie. The manufacturers no longer consider it "ADVERTIZING" to have models of their cars "out there".

The problem began because a kid got hurt building a model and the manufacturer of the real thing got sued because they have "deep pockets".

One last thing and I hope you find it interesting. There is a die cast model of the new Ford GT in 1/18th scale. I have heard, but have not been able to confirm, that it was produced and sold without Fords permission, that is it is illeaglly being sold. Fords legal department put a stop to it so it is no longer available.

Think about it. All this fuss over little model cars. Have you noticed that the model manufacturers are making kits of things prior to about 1970? Both model cars and model airplanes are being made of the older cars and aircraft. Now you know why, the older stuff was not copywrited or tradenamed. No royalties!
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Posted by mkhoot on Tuesday, July 5, 2005 10:02 AM
The polar lights ford gt should be coming out any day now Hobby Heaven is taking pre orders.
http://www.modelcarkits.com/news.html
When in doubt just build it. Mark http://www.ipmslivonia.org/ipms/
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  • From: Des Moines IA.
Posted by Jeebus on Monday, July 18, 2005 11:53 PM
CHEVYS EAT FORDS FOR BREAKFASTTongue [:P]
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, July 19, 2005 3:07 AM
Jeebus that chevy needs to catch the Ford first. he he he he
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, July 19, 2005 3:09 AM
All you have to do is look at the nhra funny car class ford (robert hight) is in the points lead. I hope "the boss" John Force. is not too mad. he he he

ps They are sporting the 2002 Mustang
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