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Die-cast kit Paint removal?
Posted by MartianGundamModeler on Wednesday, August 3, 2005 10:55 AM
I have purchased one of the Burago die-cast models [Lamborghini] from Walmart and I wish to repaint it but how do I strip off the paint. The very nice color instruction booklet states that it is painted in a "durable non-toxic scratch resistant paint". What is the best means of stripping it off? I do have some purple power but I recieved mixed results while using it on acrylic paint. Will it work for this application and if not what will?
I normally prefer plastic but I think these are great die-cast kits and are only $9.99! They come with a base and water slide decals.
"Some men look at things the way they are and ask ' Why?'. I dream of things that never were and ask "Why not?".--Robert Kennedy taken from George Bernard Shaw's "Back To Methuselah" (Thanks to TomZ2) http://martiangundammodels.50megs.com/index.html
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Posted by ckfredrickson on Wednesday, August 3, 2005 3:22 PM
I've never done a die cast before, but you can supposedly just sand the existing layer of paint to roughen it up, and then use it as a base coat/adhesion layer for other coats of paint.

Stripping the paint is probably possible, but I've heard it can be difficult to get new layers of paint to stick to the bare metal.
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Posted by MartianGundamModeler on Wednesday, August 3, 2005 5:19 PM
THANKS! Would I spray directly over the exsting paint or use a primer first? I was concerned about the paint coates becoming too thick. I have never tried this with die-cast either by the way. This is new territory for me...i normall build military and sci fi.lol
"Some men look at things the way they are and ask ' Why?'. I dream of things that never were and ask "Why not?".--Robert Kennedy taken from George Bernard Shaw's "Back To Methuselah" (Thanks to TomZ2) http://martiangundammodels.50megs.com/index.html
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Posted by ckfredrickson on Wednesday, August 3, 2005 7:33 PM
The article I read was a bit vague on whether an additional coat of primer was needed, but the author did use one to check up on additional bodywork he did.

As long as you're careful with the paint application, I don't think thickness will be that big of an issue. In fact, to get the best results, your color coat will have to be thick enough to withstand some sanding and polishing... Just in case, I've included a link about painting plastic cars; I'd assume it'd be the same for diecast once the primer is applied.

http://www.briansmodelcars.com/tutorials/tutorial.asp?TutorialID=12&CurPage=1
(Alex also has his published at his own site, http://italianhorses.net)

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Posted by jinithith2 on Wednesday, August 3, 2005 10:00 PM
castrol super clean maybe....? I'm not sure
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Posted by Martsmodels on Thursday, August 4, 2005 7:26 AM
You can strip it right back to the metal. I've just had the very same problem. It's not the paint that Burago use but the lacquer coat which seems almost impregnable! Would you believe I left mine submersed in brake fluid for three weeks and it hardly touched it! I finally used a standard paint stripper from a DIY store. This was non-caustic but still a messy job and needed rubber gloves and I chose to do it under an outside tap to save mess in the house. Coat the stripper on thickly and work it in with a stiff brush and it will soften the paint which can then be scraped off with a piece of wood or styrene. It may need several applications but is surprisingly easy. Burago are pretty rough under all that paint - you'll be surprised!

Here's the result so far - it's in sanding primer because I've done some body mods.



Best of luck - looking forward to seeing an immaculate Lambo in a few weeks.
Martin

P.S. On the question of getting the paint to stick on bare metal - you would normally use an etching primer but a sanding primer first followed by any other primer type should not be a problem.
Martin http://www.freewebs.com/martsmodels/
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, August 5, 2005 5:21 AM
Yes i would think real stripper would work the best and wont seem to hurt the metal.
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Posted by nick31 on Friday, August 5, 2005 10:23 AM
I'll be doing something similar whenever I get around to it, but with a die- cast bike not a car.

Its a Minichamps 1/12th and the finish looks really well (as in it looks like a nightmare to strip off !) I had assumed Id have to strip the paint, but the sanding and overpainting sounds much easier. Maybe Im wrong.

Whichever route you choose keep us informed of your progress MGM....

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, August 5, 2005 1:52 PM
Just wanted to warn you to be very very careful about evenly sanding the entire vehicle. I did the same thing (only I used nail polish remover, paper towels, and a whole buncha elbow grease) except i didny completely scruff up one of the rocker panels. The paint stuck everywhere perfectly except that area, where it didnt stick AT ALL!!! 3 Coats later its looking good but its not as even as I would like it to be
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Posted by clfesmire on Friday, August 5, 2005 3:28 PM
Folks,
Go down to your local harware store and pick up a container of a strong paint stripper like one used for wood stripping. Only put the diecast pieces in it overnight (no plastic!) and you will have a beautifully stripped metal auto. I would not recommend painting over the existing finish even if you rough it up, these paints used on diecast pieces tend to bleed through even when you prime.
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