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2008 Challenger & Camaro (Detroit Auto Show)

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2008 Challenger & Camaro (Detroit Auto Show)
Posted by seevee on Thursday, January 12, 2006 9:01 PM

Gday

What do folks here think of the retro concept cars from the Detroit show?

The Miura aint too bad either...

 

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, January 14, 2006 1:31 PM
Love the Challenger!!!!!! I want one like right now! Im not feeling the Camaro, it reminds me of a Chrysler Crossfire(just the front though). Id rather have an actual '69 Camaro SS(hahaha like that would happen!!)
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Posted by RadMax8 on Saturday, January 14, 2006 11:54 PM
Their heart's in the right place... but it just doesnt cut the mustard in my book. So far Ford's the only company to make the retro look work *looks the other way as a 2000 Thunderbird passes by*. The new Mustangs are so beautiful. The charger doent look too good. The challenger is on the right path, but not quite there yet. The camaro is just to angular for my liking. Maybe I'm just reeeeaaallllly picky.Black Eye [B)]
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Posted by J-Hulk on Sunday, January 15, 2006 9:54 AM

The Challenger is magnificent! We'll finally have something worthy of a Hemi! I might just have to move back to the States and get one of those!

The Camaro is OK, but...well, I've always been a Mopar man!

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Posted by wooverstone8 on Sunday, January 15, 2006 1:59 PM

The challenger looks aggressive and mean IMO. I really like the Camaro, but side mirrors turn me off.

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Posted by mkhoot on Sunday, January 15, 2006 3:12 PM
The Challenger and the Muira look good. The Camaro is all wrong beltline is too high roof is too low and the front end is way too busy and angular.
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, January 15, 2006 11:39 PM
i like the challenger and the camero but i dont like what theyve done with the miura.  its as if theyve taken the old miura sv, a car that i love, and slapped on some more air intakes and, a new front fender and huge atrocious rims.  it seems like theyve turned it into a rappers car that wont be appreciated for its full potential and i think it does not do justice to its namesake.
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Posted by Aaronw on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 1:50 AM
I like the Challenger, but the Camero doesn't do anything for me. I'm indifferant to the last one, its ok, but nothing spectacular and the back looks kind of weird.
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Posted by jeff on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 2:01 PM

Personnally, I like the Camaro better.  Don't get me wrong, the Challenger is a knock-out, but it looks a little too "retro", more like Mopar took an original one and gave it the Chip Foose treatment than going to the trouble to create an all new car.  The Camaro, to me, looks more modern while still holding many of the styling cues of the original.  I'm a Chevy guy, though, so maybe my bias is showing a little!  Regardless, I hope both make it to production and are wildly successful.

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Posted by jlwilliams on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 3:10 PM
The rims are too big!!   Give me a smaller rim with a taller profile tire so I can get the white letters on the tires.  I think that the white letters makes the car look like it is going faster than it really is.  Even when standing still.  I also agree that the beltline and the roof of the camaro are out of proportion to each other.
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Posted by rudedog on Saturday, January 21, 2006 7:27 AM
I like the Challenger,but it would be perfect if they just reproduced the originals nose.That goes for all the big 3 .Is there some law that says they can't ? Imagine how many 69 Z-28's they'd sell if they just reproduced that to a tee ?  Go figure,westmass

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Posted by eizzle on Saturday, January 21, 2006 8:53 AM
Awesome, just awesome. Good to know they are bringing back some of the muscle car styling, unlike what they have been doing!

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Posted by jhande on Sunday, January 22, 2006 5:41 PM
I'm a GM man, but never been overly crazy about Camaro's but yet wouldn't turn my head on one either... until now. WHAT the heck is Chevy thinking? What's so retro about that? I'm 6'-3", where's my head going?

The Lamborghini just wouldn't hold together or stay on our roads up here very well, too low to the ground.

So I quess I'll turn to the Mopars Hunters Safety Orange Challenger. At least it looks the retro part and has slightly better ground clearance for quickly escaping those stray shots during hunting season.

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Posted by DBFSS385 on Monday, January 23, 2006 9:44 AM

Neither one is a Mustang.... I must admit being a Ford guy and a waiting for delivery of   of my 06 Roush/GT and a proud owner of a slightly "tricked" 02 Lightning, I'm more excited about the new Cobra. The Camero looks like a Japanese design, not at all having the American Muscle car look that most of us "old school" 0-100mph guys like about Detroit Cars. The R/T looks pretty good but it's a Mopar...GM just doesn't get it, their new Vettes and GTOs are real performers but they're both dogs in the sales dept because of uglieness and overpriceing. Mopar has some nice designs but they're stones.  "Got a Hemi" ???? that's why you're reading this "( bumper sticker on my Lightning's rear window). LOL Wow one more post to "500"...

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Posted by MBT70 on Tuesday, January 24, 2006 3:28 PM

I like the Camaro except for the grille ... ruins the whole car.  Plus, I prefer the 4th Gen. Camaro (I have a '93) and wish they hadn't tried the retro crap with it.  Same with the Challenger ... looks too much like the original except plainer.  Don't like the Miura at all ... didn't like the original.  But I'm fascinated by the new Lambos, especially the little Gallardo ... what wicked little road rocket!  And keep your retro-Stang, too.  Morris Minor ... T-Bird ... blah .....

Some of the new stuff stinks to high heaven, too.  Cross-Fire ... what the hell were they thinking when they pinched off that stinker?  And what's up with the boxes ... Element and Scion and the like?

I think they've run out of ideas and can only come up with retro-clones to try and suck Boomer nostagia money out of the market base.  For my money, throw the folded, origami look out the window and let's get back to curvy fenders and aerodynamic lines that look fast and wicked, not artsy.

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Posted by Jeebus on Thursday, January 26, 2006 7:55 PM
 jamesber wrote:
Love the Challenger!!!!!! I want one like right now! Im not feeling the Camaro, it reminds me of a Chrysler Crossfire(just the front though). Id rather have an actual '69 Camaro SS(hahaha like that would happen!!)
I have a 69 Camaro ss-350 bored to 371cid at 425hp i'll sell ya, asking price you say?, $12.500usd
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Posted by 72cuda on Thursday, February 16, 2006 11:31 AM
I'd have to say the Dodge Challenger is pretty much on the mark with the retro looks compaired to the Charger BUT it's not the real McCoy and lets see if Chrysler will take the run with the 'Cuda as the Challengers stable mate because you know Ma MOPAR likes to run 2 lines of body style, and as for the Chevy Camaro it looks like the same clown who designs Cadallac's was the head designer on that project I think it's a flop and lets hope the Pontiac's Firebird is designed by a different designer then the Camaro to pull of their Pony Cars out of their slump

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Posted by Kumy on Saturday, April 1, 2006 2:20 PM

 RadMax8 wrote:
Their heart's in the right place... but it just doesnt cut the mustard in my book. So far Ford's the only company to make the retro look work *looks the other way as a 2000 Thunderbird passes by*. The new Mustangs are so beautiful. The charger doent look too good. The challenger is on the right path, but not quite there yet. The camaro is just to angular for my liking. Maybe I'm just reeeeaaallllly picky.Black Eye [B)]

This sums up how I feel about it too.  I think Ford has really pulled off the retro styling on the Mustangs but if you recall they weren't that sharp when they first started the trend.  That Challenger isn't bad.  I can't put my finger on it but it just needs some more ooomphf.  Maybe if it wasn't so low it would show off its muscles more but it looks like it would handle well.  That retro camero is a mess though.  Toss that one back in the oven and let it cook another year or so.

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Posted by modelbuilder on Saturday, April 1, 2006 7:33 PM
I LOVE the Challenger but the Camaro is way too modern looking.

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Posted by Jeebus on Tuesday, April 4, 2006 12:27 AM
The Camaro looks as if it's got a do-do eating grin.
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Posted by MBT70 on Tuesday, April 4, 2006 5:14 PM
that's what I thought too ....
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Posted by hwells on Wednesday, April 5, 2006 10:50 PM
They're all kinda fugly to me.  I'm a huge fan of the 3rd gen Camaros.  I have a '85 Z-28 that will be stripped down and rebuilt soon.  And besides, parts are plentiful and cheap. 
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Posted by Kolja94 on Wednesday, April 5, 2006 11:16 PM
I actually like the Challenger... I was pretty disappointed in the new Charger when it came out but I think they've captured a much better look this time around.

I don't really like many sports cars at all - more a truck and motorcycle guy. I have a Ram now, and figured when it finally died I'd get either another Ram or a Chevy Silverado - but I've got to admit the Challenger has me intrigued...

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, April 8, 2006 2:56 AM

I like retro styling, but the Lambo and the Challenger take it too far. It doesn't look like they put any thought into them at all. It just looks like they got lazy and copied the originals. That, and the Challenger looks and is very overweight.

The Camaro actually looks like it had some thought put into it. There are a few things about it that I am not fond of, but overall, it is a visually pleasing design. It reminds me of the Mustang, in that it invokes the original, but still looks modern enough that it doesn't come off as a caricature of the original.

The important thing to remember here is that these are concept cars. There will be changes and small tweaks to the design before they hit the showrooms.

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, April 12, 2006 9:27 AM
I like the challenger out of all of them.  For once it actually looks like the car that they are actually going to label it after.  The camaro has to go.  Don't get me wrong I like some GM products but the only year Camaros that I really liked were the 70 and 71 Camaro, everything after that didn't suit me.  Now the only thing that Chrysler has to do is rething the Charger, because I just don't know what they were thinking taking the 300 and changing some parts and throwing the so-called hemi in it and slapping the Charger name on and saying he look everyone it's a foor door charger.  Ok I have rambled enough.
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