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close up of carb?
Posted by apprentice68 on Saturday, August 25, 2007 8:17 PM
I am building the Revell 1/12 scale 1969 Camaro.I am building the street racing version which has the double carbs and stacks.I would like to know if anyone has detailed the engine and if anyone has pics of the engine area as I would like to super detail this area with linkages,wires and cables.Any resources or tutorials available for doing this.I know where some stuff is connected but need help on the other stuff.Thanks, Chris
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Posted by fox on Saturday, August 25, 2007 9:51 PM

Hi Chris, when I'm working on cars, I use mags such as Street Rodder. They always have great pics of engines. 9 out of 10 times they have a small block Chevy with all the accessories in them. I've been using them lately as I'm working on a '53 Chevy Street Rod with an engine close to a 348 as they were set up in the '60's for a group build. Check them out. The pics are always sharp and clear so they are great for detail work.My 2 cents [2c] Good Luck.Make a Toast [#toast]

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Posted by jhande on Sunday, August 26, 2007 1:52 AM

Hi Chris, here is one way it can be done -

The line on top with the pressure gauge is the fuel line. Each carb has two inlets on each end of the carb, primary and secondary.

Just below that is a solid silver bar connecting the throttle linkage from both carbs together.

Below that is the throttle cable, one is shown halfway on the linkage bar, while the other is shown on the rear (right) throttle linkage (with a black end cap).

The last important item is the throttle return spring, mounted on a throttle linkage and intake.

The carbs in the picture are mechanical secondaries, so no need for vacuum hoses.

On the other side of the carbs would be a choke control, either electronic or manual.
Electronic will have a wire running to a small verticle canister just forward of center.
Manual would have a cable running to a bracket just forward of center.

That's your basic dual carb setup. The rest of the engine can be detailed as any other.

Hope that helps a little.  Wink [;)]

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Posted by fantacmet on Sunday, August 26, 2007 3:08 AM

Hotrod magazine is also a great resource.  Maybe check out a local hotrod shop or auto shop, and ask if you can take some pictures of a carb.  Try an auto parts store, they may let you take a peek and snap some pics.  Baxters I know carries stuff like Edlebrock and Holley all the time.  Also check out any of the hotrod  or other car clubs that have forums.  Alot of those guys post up close pics of things.  Due to the subejct I'm sure you can find an online 69 Camaro club out there, and there will be ALOT of people willing to run out real fast and take some photo's of whatever you want.  I'd do it, but I have an 82 Datsun 4x4 sitting up on 33" tires, and i have a pretty much stock 88 GMC S15 Jimmy 4x4.

 

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, August 26, 2007 11:43 AM

Heres another one you can peak at 

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Posted by apprentice68 on Sunday, August 26, 2007 5:13 PM
 Hello guys.Thanks so much for your assistance and suggestions.I will pick up some copies of the magazines suggested.I usually do military models ,but needed a break from super detailing a particular helicopter model in 1/35 ,so decided to work on the 1/12 '69 Camaro.I am having so much fun that I may switch over to doing autos for a good long while.jhandle in particular that pic shows exactly what I need and I appreciate it very much.I will try and post some pics of my progress,but one thing I found particularly frustrating when trying to post pics that I have taken is that with my camera ,even on a tripod the detail is lost and the image is blurry,so may or may not try again on that.Thanks,Chris
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, August 26, 2007 8:15 PM

 apprentice68 wrote:
 Hello guys.Thanks so much for your assistance and suggestions.I will pick up some copies of the magazines suggested.I usually do military models ,but needed a break from super detailing a particular helicopter model in 1/35 ,so decided to work on the 1/12 '69 Camaro.I am having so much fun that I may switch over to doing autos for a good long while.jhandle in particular that pic shows exactly what I need and I appreciate it very much.I will try and post some pics of my progress,but one thing I found particularly frustrating when trying to post pics that I have taken is that with my camera ,even on a tripod the detail is lost and the image is blurry,so may or may not try again on that.Thanks,Chris

 

I'm actually doing my first military aircraft myself. Always did OOB cars in the past. I think alot of people look down on cars because its "toyish" from a look away, but its very fun to me because the details are more specific because of the large scale

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Posted by apprentice68 on Sunday, August 26, 2007 8:57 PM
I agree 100%.I am enjoying the larger scale and all the detail that can be put into one especially the engine wiring and plumbing.I am going tonight to pick up(hopefully)the new '49 Merc from Revell at my local 24 hour Wal- Mart!I am into this heavy now!Chris
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Posted by squeakie on Sunday, August 26, 2007 10:40 PM

if you are planing on doing the cross ram setup like the factory did in the late sixties, I can photograph the Holleys they used, or If you are thinking Carters I can also do the same thing. The linkages, you'll have to figure out as well as the basic plumbing.

Gary

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Posted by apprentice68 on Sunday, August 26, 2007 11:12 PM
Yes.I am doing the street racing version with the twin carbs and stacks.That would be great.Thank you!Chris
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Posted by RadMax8 on Wednesday, August 29, 2007 12:37 AM

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Posted by squeakie on Wednesday, August 29, 2007 12:07 PM

 apprentice68 wrote:
Yes.I am doing the street racing version with the twin carbs and stacks.That would be great.Thank you!Chris

But which kind of carbs? Inline or cross ram. Or maybe even a tunnel ram? I don't have access to the intake manifolds (well maybe an inline dual quad much like the picture in a previous post). Most of the cross rams I have access to are fabed sheetmetal, and trust me you never get a picture of one of those. Might add that I also have access to some three duce setups all setup with linkage a fuel lines.

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Posted by Likittysplit on Wednesday, August 29, 2007 4:17 PM

I have built this kit twice and am in work on my third one, and have five unbuilt shrinkwrapped kits left. The first one was an original issue done years ago as a Z/28, the second (shown here) is an SS396 with a donor engine from the Corvette and MCG photoetch and the third will be an SS350. I love this kit!

 

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Posted by apprentice68 on Saturday, September 1, 2007 8:00 PM
It is the cross ram setup,holley carbs.Thanks so much.
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Posted by apprentice68 on Saturday, September 1, 2007 8:04 PM

Hey Lickety and any others who might know,

Do you have any ideas on where a person can get 1/12 scale engines and accesories?

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Posted by squeakie on Sunday, September 2, 2007 12:55 AM

 apprentice68 wrote:
It is the cross ram setup,holley carbs.Thanks so much.

the only cross ram intakes I know of (that can be photographed) are for a Max Wedge and a Hemi. But the carbs can be done. Wait till after the National Drags is over. The owner of the carbs has about a half dozen engines running over there, and he'll be pretty busy till the end of next week. 

gary

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Posted by Likittysplit on Monday, September 3, 2007 9:32 AM
 apprentice68 wrote:

Hey Lickety and any others who might know,

Do you have any ideas on where a person can get 1/12 scale engines and accesories?

Unfortunatly, no. My best experience is to look around for parts from the kits that are currently on the market, and to constantly search eBay. Sorry.

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Posted by marioc on Tuesday, September 4, 2007 6:53 PM
 Likittysplit wrote:
I have built this kit twice and am in work on my third one, and have five unbuilt shrinkwrapped kits left. The first one was an original issue done years ago as a Z/28, the second (shown here) is an SS396 with a donor engine from the Corvette and MCG photoetch and the third will be an SS350. I love this kit!

You did a pretty good work with this old kit, the engine bay looks terrific!Banged Head [banghead]

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Posted by Likittysplit on Thursday, September 6, 2007 4:18 PM
 marioc wrote:
 Likittysplit wrote:
 

You did a pretty good work with this old kit, the engine bay looks terrific!Banged Head [banghead]

Thanks! That project was a year long effort, since I usually build mutiple kits at the same time. Like I said, I really love this particular kit, the possibilities are endless.

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Posted by rubaru on Tuesday, September 11, 2007 11:57 AM
I've had a great deal of luck with the Haynes auto repair manuals.  They often have close up drawings of a lot of things you might not find in a car magazine.  For example: brake lines, fuel lines, electrical.
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