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Closest Ferrari red, Tamiya or gunze sangyo?

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Closest Ferrari red, Tamiya or gunze sangyo?
Posted by Lloyd on Friday, September 14, 2007 8:35 AM
I'm looking to spray the Tamiya 1/12 F1 Ferrari with acrylics, and am interested if someone could suggest the best shade of red. Would the gunze sangyo red be close to the ferrari/italian red? Theres also a shade called "red madder" I noticed. Any ideas?
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, September 14, 2007 9:28 AM

Hi Lloyd,

maybe you can take the color number that is specified in the instructions that comes with the kit and cross reference it in a color conversation table with other brands (like gunze sangyo). Then you can go to a hobby store to actully compare the different brands with each other in the shop and buy the one you like best.

BTW, isn't it a better idea to build a Mclaren i.o. a Ferrari F1? (just kidding!)

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Posted by Phil_H on Friday, September 14, 2007 9:50 AM

If I recall correctly, Tamiya has an "Italian Red" spray can (TS-8).

To my eye, Tamiya acrylic red seems too "deep" for Ferrari Red (I believe the actual shade is called "Maranello Red").  Gunze acrylic "Shine Red" and "Red Madder" are more orange-reds and are close to each other in shade. Your best bet would be to go to your LHS and compare them.

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Posted by Lloyd on Friday, September 14, 2007 10:21 AM

Yeah I have the TS-8, although Im thinking of going with the airbrush. This kit is half built, I had it lying around for 12 years, and decided to finish it. I don't think it's available anymore, but I would love to have a go at one of the new Mclaren F1 cars in 1/12 if I could find one.

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Posted by proosen on Friday, September 14, 2007 11:38 AM

I you don't mind the smell of automotive paints take a look at Hiroboy's site and his own line of colours, Zero. He can if you have enough data mix whatever hue you like and the Zero-paint is also a real breeze to work with. A bit smelly but it dries in an instant and with some good ventilation it's no big deal, like Tamiyas TS/AS-range of colours in odour.

 

Niclas

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, September 14, 2007 2:27 PM
 proosen wrote:

I you don't mind the smell of automotive paints take a look at Hiroboy's site and his own line of colours, Zero. He can if you have enough data mix whatever hue you like and the Zero-paint is also a real breeze to work with. A bit smelly but it dries in an instant and with some good ventilation it's no big deal, like Tamiyas TS/AS-range of colours in odour.

 

Niclas

 

here's a direct link

http://www.hiroboy.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=985

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Posted by Lloyd on Sunday, September 16, 2007 10:01 AM
As it turns out gunze sangyo "red madder" is pretty darn close to the TS-8 Italian red, that being slightly darker. Looks close enough to me anyway. 
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, September 16, 2007 10:38 AM

keep us posted on the build please, I'd love to see some phots.

After Ferrari's victory and 2nd place at Spa this weekend you shouldn't have any lack of inspiration!

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Posted by Lloyd on Monday, September 17, 2007 1:37 AM

This is the cowling I painted yesterday which I decided to finish before I completed anymore of the model, in case I messed it up (again). My first attempt at spraying this in 1995 was a complete stuff up and I ended up shelving the kit for 12 years. This time I sanded the cowling down and re-primed and had a go at it using acrylics and future which worked pretty well. It's not perfect, but if you saw the original cracked orange peel I ended up all those years ago with it's a huge improvement!

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, September 17, 2007 1:42 AM

Hi Lloyd,

paint job looks very good to me! Goes to show that experience does come with age (and practice)!

 Looking forward to the next update!

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Posted by Lloyd on Monday, September 17, 2007 1:43 AM

These I completed in 1995. Its so long ago it almost feels like someone else made themConfused [%-)] I have vague recollections of putting them together, but considering I handed painted most of the components I'm pretty pleased with the finish.

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Posted by Lloyd on Monday, September 17, 2007 1:53 AM

Cheers 1/72, will do.

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Posted by BigJim on Thursday, September 20, 2007 11:59 AM
I used Floquil SP Red on my T4.
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Posted by marioc on Saturday, September 22, 2007 8:26 AM
 Lloyd wrote:

This is the cowling I painted yesterday which I decided to finish before I completed anymore of the model, in case I messed it up (again). My first attempt at spraying this in 1995 was a complete stuff up and I ended up shelving the kit for 12 years. This time I sanded the cowling down and re-primed and had a go at it using acrylics and future which worked pretty well. It's not perfect, but if you saw the original cracked orange peel I ended up all those years ago with it's a huge improvement!

Excellent, in my opinion you did very well. The Ferrari red is a headcache for most of the modellers, Banged Head [banghead] the matter is quite simple, until 97 any good red ( like X-7 ) applied on white does the job. Then one should use TS-49, and of course there are other brands that offer the mix, but TS-49 has proved to work very well. Few winners at Tamcon contest have used TS49, always applied over white. If you live in an area where it's impossible to get spray cans, I suggest a mix of red + orange, and drops of some fluorescent red (Model Master works, but must be a very fresh bottle), You should mix the paint over the 2007 Ferrari cowling to match the color, if not I suggest TS-49. Big Smile [:D]

Mario Covalski Editor http://www.modelersite.com
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Posted by shaun68 on Wednesday, September 26, 2007 7:43 AM

I was about to reply: anything before the '96 F310 would be in the traditional Italian Red (as per Tamiya TS-8) & all cars after would be whatever their Bright Red is. HOWEVER, I can see from the photos that this is one of the John Barnard designed 640/641/642 V12 cars, so my original suggestion applies.

Looks like you took that option already...Dunce [D)]

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Posted by Lloyd on Sunday, October 7, 2007 8:12 AM
Cool, thanks for that!
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