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Thinking about a '67 Camaro

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  • From: Left forever
Posted by Bgrigg on Monday, September 17, 2007 12:40 PM
1967 my mother worked for a Chev/Olds/Buick/Cadillac car dealer and for two blessed weeks had a 67 Z28 (silver with black stripes) for a demonstrator. She had many very cool cars during her career: Toronado, 442 Olds, Buick Wildcat, Chevy Nova, Caprice, Chevelle, Monte Carlo, Pontiac GTO & Firebird, and many, many others. But that Z28 stands out! I can attest that the 290HP rating was bunk!

So long folks!

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  • From: Sacramento
Posted by Redfinger on Monday, September 17, 2007 12:25 PM
 Waste Land wrote:

Cars unlike planes seem to lack the better brands of model makers. Tam makes alot of cars I just dont see many muscle cars atleastnot locally. Believe it or not though, Revell makes a decent 69' Camero z28. Box is just a picture of a red camaro with white stripes sitting in an ouside eviroment.

 Comes with a nice cowl hood and npt a half bad put together of the car. 

Not sure if your just wanting to build a clean looking car or replicating the more modded car you remember but 67s did not come with a 454 option.

 

Heres some information you might like:

The RS was an appearance package that included hidden headlights, revised taillights, RS badging, and exterior rocker trim. It was available on all models.

The SS included a 350 (5.7L) V8 engine (the 350 was only available in the Camaro in 1967, it became available in other carlines in 1968), and the L35 and L78 396(6.5L) big-block V8's were also available. The SS featured non-functional air inlets on the hood, special striping and SS badging on the grille, front fenders, gas cap, and horn button. It was possible to order both the SS and RS to receive a Camaro SS/RS. In 1967, a Camaro SS/RS convertible with a 396(6.5L) engine paced the Indianapolis 500 race.

The Z/28 option code was introduced in December 1966 for the 1967 model year. This option package wasn't mentioned in any sales literature, so it was unknown to most buyers. The Z/28 option required power front disc brakes and a Muncie 4-speed manual transmission. The Z/28 featured a 302(5.0L) small-block V-8 engine, 3" crankshaft with 4" bore, an aluminum intake manifold, and a 4-barrel vacuum secondary Holly carburetor of 780CFM. The engine was designed specifically to race in the Trans Am series (which required engines smaller than 305(5.0L) and public availability of the car. Advertised power of this engine was listed at 290hp (216kW). This is an under-rated figure. Chevrolet wanted to keep the horsepower rating at less than 1hp per cubic inch, for various reasons (e.g. insurance and racing classes). The factory rating of 290hp occurred at 5300 rpm, while actual peak for the high-revving 302 was closer to 360hp (with the single four barrel carb) to 400hp (with optional dual-four barrel carbs) (269 to 298kW) at 6800-7000 rpm. The Z/28 also came with upgraded suspension, racing stripes on the hood, and 'Z/28' emblems for the fenders (in 68 & 69). It was also possible to combine the Z/28 package with the RS package.

Only 602 Z/28s were sold in 1967. The 1967 and 1968 Z/28s did not have raised cowl induction hoods as was optional on the 1969 Z/28s. The 1967 Z28 received air from an open element air cleaner or from an optional cowl plenum duct attached to the side of the air cleaner that ran to the firewall and got air from the cowl vents. 15-inch rally wheels, were included with Z/28s had while all other 1967-9 Camaros had 14-inch wheels.

The Camaro's standard drivetrain was a 230 (3.8L) straight-6 engine rated at 140hp (104kW) and backed by a Saginaw three-speed manual transmission. A four-speed manual was also available. The two-speed "Powerglide" automatic transmission was a popular option in 1967 and 1968 until the three-speed "Turbo Hydra-Matic 350" replaced it starting in 1969. The larger Turbo 400 three-speed was an option on L35 SS396 cars.

 

 

 

Wow!!  alot of good info there...I am not interested in building a stock '67, I am aware that the 454 was not stock on the '67, the car I saw was obviously beefed up quite a bit, that beefed up version is what I would like to build.

 I have spent the better part of the morning trying to find a 454, the only thing I found was a resin+photo-etched set up for racing that was almost 30$.  So I think what will do is buy the chevelle model I found and the '67 camaro model as well, use the 454 out of the chavelle and then mod up the suspension and tires on the camaro.

 Any tips or thought on altering suspension on models?

 

Ashton

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  • Member since
    November 2005
Posted by Anonymous on Monday, September 17, 2007 10:11 AM

Cars unlike planes seem to lack the better brands of model makers. Tam makes alot of cars I just dont see many muscle cars atleastnot locally. Believe it or not though, Revell makes a decent 69' Camero z28. Box is just a picture of a red camaro with white stripes sitting in an ouside eviroment.

 Comes with a nice cowl hood and npt a half bad put together of the car. 

Not sure if your just wanting to build a clean looking car or replicating the more modded car you remember but 67s did not come with a 454 option.

 

Heres some information you might like:

The RS was an appearance package that included hidden headlights, revised taillights, RS badging, and exterior rocker trim. It was available on all models.

The SS included a 350 (5.7L) V8 engine (the 350 was only available in the Camaro in 1967, it became available in other carlines in 1968), and the L35 and L78 396(6.5L) big-block V8's were also available. The SS featured non-functional air inlets on the hood, special striping and SS badging on the grille, front fenders, gas cap, and horn button. It was possible to order both the SS and RS to receive a Camaro SS/RS. In 1967, a Camaro SS/RS convertible with a 396(6.5L) engine paced the Indianapolis 500 race.

The Z/28 option code was introduced in December 1966 for the 1967 model year. This option package wasn't mentioned in any sales literature, so it was unknown to most buyers. The Z/28 option required power front disc brakes and a Muncie 4-speed manual transmission. The Z/28 featured a 302(5.0L) small-block V-8 engine, 3" crankshaft with 4" bore, an aluminum intake manifold, and a 4-barrel vacuum secondary Holly carburetor of 780CFM. The engine was designed specifically to race in the Trans Am series (which required engines smaller than 305(5.0L) and public availability of the car. Advertised power of this engine was listed at 290hp (216kW). This is an under-rated figure. Chevrolet wanted to keep the horsepower rating at less than 1hp per cubic inch, for various reasons (e.g. insurance and racing classes). The factory rating of 290hp occurred at 5300 rpm, while actual peak for the high-revving 302 was closer to 360hp (with the single four barrel carb) to 400hp (with optional dual-four barrel carbs) (269 to 298kW) at 6800-7000 rpm. The Z/28 also came with upgraded suspension, racing stripes on the hood, and 'Z/28' emblems for the fenders (in 68 & 69). It was also possible to combine the Z/28 package with the RS package.

Only 602 Z/28s were sold in 1967. The 1967 and 1968 Z/28s did not have raised cowl induction hoods as was optional on the 1969 Z/28s. The 1967 Z28 received air from an open element air cleaner or from an optional cowl plenum duct attached to the side of the air cleaner that ran to the firewall and got air from the cowl vents. 15-inch rally wheels, were included with Z/28s had while all other 1967-9 Camaros had 14-inch wheels.

The Camaro's standard drivetrain was a 230 (3.8L) straight-6 engine rated at 140hp (104kW) and backed by a Saginaw three-speed manual transmission. A four-speed manual was also available. The two-speed "Powerglide" automatic transmission was a popular option in 1967 and 1968 until the three-speed "Turbo Hydra-Matic 350" replaced it starting in 1969. The larger Turbo 400 three-speed was an option on L35 SS396 cars.

 

  • Member since
    November 2005
Posted by Anonymous on Monday, September 17, 2007 2:55 AM

Hi Ashton!

Being a "novice" car modeller myself, I am a aircraft guy, I have same problems you are facing. I do know there is a big aftermarket scene for cars though. I find it useful to search the web. In your case I would search on key words like "resin engine" or the name engine you are looking for + resin. This method has helped me alot in the past (for example sorucing racing seat belts / carbon fibre decal etc).

Although both are not in US, you may try Hobby Link Japan or Hiroboy, these specialise in car models.

Happy hunting and please keep us posted on the progress please!

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    March 2007
  • From: Sacramento
Thinking about a '67 Camaro
Posted by Redfinger on Sunday, September 16, 2007 10:18 PM

I remember the first car show I ever went to...and the first car I ever fell in love with....It was a 1967 Camaro, painted black w/ grey rally stripes, the interior was a black/grey w/ all kind if gauges that I knew nothing about except they looked cool!!  My dad asked the guy about the engine, of course with out knowing what any of the numbers or things ment, I still knew I loved it!!  It had a 454 boared out 30 over, ceramic headers, and a rumble that almost made me crap my pants when I first heard it.....man that car was beautiful!!

 Well, my wife has given me permission to buy one, of course in a 1/25 scale so :)

So seeing how I pretty much have only built sci-fi and militarty I wanted to ask you all where I should start looking?  I found a 1/25 chevelle w/ a 454 but it is not a '67 camaro,s oi would need to buy 2 models.  So I was thinking I could buy a '67 and buy a 454 enigine seperatley, or buy the '69 chevelle and convert it to '67?  This is where my problem lies, I dont know what accessory kits are avilable for cars, and I dont know where to look for them either.

 Another thing I remember about this car was that it a had a seriously beefed up rear suspension, and a nice forward rake to the car, I imagnie I can mod it to what I need though, but if mod-kits are avilable then it makes my job all the easier.

 

Thanks guys!

 

Ashton

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