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                        Hey firemodelman..

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                        lizardqing
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                        • From: Dahlonega, Georgia
                        Hey firemodelman..
                        Posted by lizardqing on Sunday, October 19, 2003 12:19 AM
                        Did'nt know if you had run across this site yet. they have had this project going for a while now and thought it might give you an idea for a scatchbuild/conversion job. I personally would not mind haveing a 1:1 of this beast but if I did it would make the depat look bad since it would be better than a few of our trucks.

                        http://www.projectresponder.com/default.asp
                        Chris The Scale Firehouse The Lizard's Workshop
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                        Anonymous
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                        Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, October 19, 2003 10:09 PM
                        hey cris, yes i have seen that. i saw an add for it in firehouse mag a year or so ago. my wifes aunt was seeing a guy who was a fire fighter, and he would bring the mags to her house and then i would snag onto them. that seems like one hell of a truck thats for sure. i was looking at that site just a few weeks ago and was wondering when they were going to have it done? its going to be bad allright.
                        p.s. the pics of the ford are in the mail as of monday morning, i swear!!!!!!
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                        lizardqing
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                        • From: Dahlonega, Georgia
                        Posted by lizardqing on Sunday, October 19, 2003 10:15 PM
                        It would be nice if they could get some pics if the truck up though. Look forward to seeing the the ford.
                        Chris The Scale Firehouse The Lizard's Workshop
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                        Anonymous
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                        Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, October 19, 2003 10:40 PM
                        yea i would like to see it myself.i wrote some notes on paper for you of each pic. i numberd each pic and have a corrsponding note along with them . hope you like em.
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                        lizardqing
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                        • From: Dahlonega, Georgia
                        Posted by lizardqing on Sunday, October 19, 2003 11:25 PM
                        ok I'll try this again, had to go to another brush fire. I forgot to get some pics of the tanker for you, had the camera at the station and all but about the time I remembered got a tone for a brush fire and had to take the engine to town for a parade after that. Been a busy weekend with a festival they have here. I'll try to get those before I go out of service again though.
                        Chris The Scale Firehouse The Lizard's Workshop
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                        Anonymous
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                        Posted by Anonymous on Monday, October 20, 2003 9:36 PM
                        thats coll chris. the pics should be at your house by thursday i would think. what is your tankers chassis, ford, international,chevy?i'd like to give it a try when i get the pics. kind of got my hands full right now with the superbird and daytona, but they can always go to the back burner!
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                        lizardqing
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                        • From: Dahlonega, Georgia
                        Posted by lizardqing on Tuesday, October 21, 2003 5:43 PM
                        The chasis is a GMC can't pull the exact model off the top of my head though. It's the old squared of front end style though. I'd say if a chasis is available it could be a good first time scratch build for me. The tank and dump tank should be easy enough. The only thing that could be a challenge would be the pump on the front. Got any tricks for those?
                        Chris The Scale Firehouse The Lizard's Workshop
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                        lizardqing
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                          July 2003
                        • From: Dahlonega, Georgia
                        Posted by lizardqing on Wednesday, October 22, 2003 3:32 PM
                        I got the pics today. pretty sweet rig you've done there. be nice if our little ford was that nice.how do you get the roll up doors to look like that? Also how would diamond plate be done? Also you got a pretty nice collection going on, no way I would have all those sitting in cabinets like that though, boys might think they are toys and can't have that happening. I'll get that one scanned to when I get a chance to get those others done for you, still working on that.
                        Chris The Scale Firehouse The Lizard's Workshop
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                        Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, October 22, 2003 11:43 PM
                        thanks for the nice review,the trick to the roll up doors is pretty easy, i use evergreen scale models styrene sheet stock,( it's labeled as .040 spacing.) they make it in all kinds of sizing and looks, they make sheets to look like sidewalks, clapboard siding and boxcar siding for model rr, just to name a few. but anyway, i build my main box with the .040 ,and then simply cut pieces from .010 sheet stock to go around the "doors" and then i fill in with squadren puddy. the trick is to get the doors in the right position. so using the .010 stock, i tend to make several pieces until im happy with the outcome, its really easy once you do it a couple of times.well anyway i'm glad you liked it.
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                        Anonymous
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                        Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, October 22, 2003 11:59 PM
                        the diamond plate was "made" by cutting up some sheet stock i had of diamond plate then i use bare metal foil over top. pretty simple to use.
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                        Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, October 23, 2003 12:08 AM
                        hey chris, would the gmc be a "brigadere" or maybe a "kodiac" model? as for the pump, i could suggest snagging the pump unit from the amt american lafrance pumper, and doing some cutting on it to get the look you wanted? that model is still on ebay,and you can find some that have been built(rather bad) and just use it for pieces? i used this method once before on a mack b-61 cab i bought from model truck and fire apparatus, then i mated the cab onto the american lafrance pumper body, it came out ok, but i would like to re-do it as i have gotten better at my scratch building since i done that model.? hope this gives you some good ideas for your tanker. i'm planning on using the international dump truck to do a tanker with? i'll wait on your pics though to give me some more insight.
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                        lizardqing
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                          July 2003
                        • From: Dahlonega, Georgia
                        Posted by lizardqing on Thursday, October 23, 2003 2:13 PM
                        I do believe it is before the kodiac models. it is probally mid to late 80's I'm guessing. I'll try to get those pics soon, of coarse now the camera has disapeared, can't even get up pics of the latest build on here right now, just got to find the little ones hidding place and probally hit the jackpot for all sorts of missing things. I've never worked with bare metal foil before so that would be yet another thing new. So does the pump on that kit have all the main parts. The one on the tanker is all exposed with the gauges sitting on a panel above it.
                        Chris The Scale Firehouse The Lizard's Workshop
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                        Anonymous
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                        Posted by Anonymous on Friday, October 24, 2003 6:38 AM
                        hi chris, the pump has the basic parts. the pump panel on the a.l.f. is on one chrome piece, i would cut out the majority of the gauges, then make a simple box to put it on,then mount that on the extended front bumper? a little imagination would play a big part as well i do beleive?
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                        lizardqing
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                          July 2003
                        • From: Dahlonega, Georgia
                        Posted by lizardqing on Friday, October 24, 2003 4:10 PM
                        Yea that sounds like it might work. I think I'll ride over to the station here after while and get some pics and email them to you. Got nothing better to do really so might as well go play around with the trucks.
                        Chris The Scale Firehouse The Lizard's Workshop
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                        Anonymous
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                        Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, October 25, 2003 3:42 PM
                        that will work,i've got all kinds of photo books on fire equipment,but nothing with real good close ups though.plus it will inspire me to build something else!
                        thanks.
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                        Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, October 25, 2003 3:44 PM
                        got a question, do you guys have any "homemade" rigs in your stable? if you do i'd like to have a photo of it.
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                        lizardqing
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                          July 2003
                        • From: Dahlonega, Georgia
                        Posted by lizardqing on Saturday, October 25, 2003 3:53 PM
                        well about the only homemade type we would have is our rescue which is an old gas and light service truck and a small chevy utility truck that came from the same place. The rescue is pretty nice and looks kind of cool. Our light and air truck has a f-250 chasis with a box put on the back with a jet ski motor pump. I'll see if I can't get some pics of them all and burn a disc and send it to you. Working on posting some of latest build right now, keep an out in the armor forum a little later.
                        Chris The Scale Firehouse The Lizard's Workshop
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                        Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, October 26, 2003 10:52 PM
                        that would be cool chris, i would like to see that rescue. i like to do trucks like that, the homemade stuff is really kind of special i think,something about having the only one makes them kind of cool. if you send me a disc, that means i'm going to go have my cd drive fixed on my computer. its a super junk gateway. i've replaced the cd drive twice, wonder if gateway is made by amt/ertl?
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                        Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, October 26, 2003 11:35 PM
                        hey dave,

                        i think gateway is made by Lindberg........
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                        lizardqing
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                          July 2003
                        • From: Dahlonega, Georgia
                        Posted by lizardqing on Monday, October 27, 2003 7:16 AM
                        I know exactly what you mean about gateway, I have replaced 3 cd drives and countless other things. Had so many problems with my original one they wound up replaceing it with one twice as good. I'l get those pics developed and send them to you.
                        Chris The Scale Firehouse The Lizard's Workshop
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                        Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, October 28, 2003 10:08 PM
                        hey thanks chris, you would think as big a company as gateway is they would have a better product. ? . littlemo i think you might be right.. i guess i'm going to break down and go get an hp from wally world, my brother has one and he seems to like it? or maybe a dell, just depends on how many models i want verses a new computer?
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                        Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, October 28, 2003 10:12 PM
                        hey just a quick question chris, are you or any of the members of your dept. planning on helping out on the wild fire front out in california? i heard on the news the other night they was needing alot of help out there. makes me glad i live in ohio where those type of fires are really not much of a problem,even though i know they can still happen.
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                        lizardqing
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                          July 2003
                        • From: Dahlonega, Georgia
                        Posted by lizardqing on Tuesday, October 28, 2003 10:13 PM
                        Take a look at tigerdirect.com, pretty good prices and a few friends have said they have products.
                        Chris The Scale Firehouse The Lizard's Workshop
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                        Anonymous
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                        Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, October 28, 2003 10:57 PM
                        ???? did you post this in the wrong forum chris?
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                        lizardqing
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                          July 2003
                        • From: Dahlonega, Georgia
                        Posted by lizardqing on Tuesday, October 28, 2003 11:49 PM
                        Nope, it's not that kind of tiger. It's a computer retailer.
                        Chris The Scale Firehouse The Lizard's Workshop
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                        Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, October 28, 2003 11:53 PM
                        ummm, chris???i don't see the relation between computers and the fires in Cali...... is it just me????

                        Banged Head [banghead]
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                        Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, October 29, 2003 12:11 AM
                        oops sorry chris, i get it now, now i know why my wife sometimes calls me a dumba#@Laugh [(-D]Laugh [(-D]Laugh [(-D], i'll check them out when i get off in the morning. thanks
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                        Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, October 29, 2003 12:09 PM
                        lol
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                        lizardqing
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                          July 2003
                        • From: Dahlonega, Georgia
                        Posted by lizardqing on Wednesday, October 29, 2003 12:35 PM
                        Sign - Oops [#oops] somehow I overlooked the post. We would like to go to Cali. Our dept has the only ntionaly red carded wildland crew in N. GA that we know of and we are not having much of a brush fire season at all. I think we can get on list with our forresty dept and get sent though. As much as I would love to go , thanks to a guy that was DUI back in may and hit me head on ,don't think my foot can handle that yet particulary since I have to have it fused in Jan. But now if it were get to the point where they need all the help possible , I would deal with my foot being in pain to be able to go and pitch in and help out.
                        Chris The Scale Firehouse The Lizard's Workshop
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                        lizardqing
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                          July 2003
                        • From: Dahlonega, Georgia
                        Posted by lizardqing on Wednesday, October 29, 2003 4:04 PM
                        Ok I finally got around to getting some pics. Here's a few teasers for you for now. Once have my camera with at Station 1 I'll get some of the rescue and one of the engines there. You would probally like it to, story behind it is that we got it from N.Y. and while in service there was first due for the World Trade Center. I belive it is a 70 something model though I'm not sure. It is one our most reliable and best at slinging water. When I get those I'll get them developed and send them your war. If there is anything you want a close up of let me know.

                        My stations tanker. 1989 GMC 70 .Think that front pump is buildable?


                        Side view with dump tank.


                        2002 Frieghtliner Chasis, Lavurne Body, Darley Pump. Anything available to try this one?
                        Chris The Scale Firehouse The Lizard's Workshop
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