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Plastic flexible tubing?
Posted by Armor_Aficionado on Tuesday, August 15, 2017 3:43 AM

Can anyone give me an idea on where to find some flexible plastic tubing for use as fuel hoses, etc.?  I'm building a 1/48 scale Albion refueler truck for a diorama, and the kit comes with the hoses shown only in the stored position (on the refueling boom/arms).  I want to show one of the hoses deployed and refueling a Spitfire, but I need some flexible tubing.  Airfix on some of its other kits has small lengths of tubing (for a hand refueling cart of starter cart), but they're too short for this project, and no lengths of tubing are included with the Albion kit.  Any help would be greatly appreciated!

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Posted by steve5 on Tuesday, August 15, 2017 4:02 AM

would some of those flexi straws you get for kids party's , at the cheap shop's do

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Posted by Armor_Aficionado on Tuesday, August 15, 2017 4:36 AM
No, it needs to be much smaller than that. It's a 1/48 scale model, so the tubing to represent the fuel hose would probably not be more than 1/16" wide (assuming a 3" diameter actual hose). So something very narrow, more like the spark plug wires on a model car kit, but I'm thinking those are probably too thin...

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Posted by KnightTemplar5150 on Tuesday, August 15, 2017 5:16 PM

Have you considered using the shrink tubing used in electronics? It can be found in very small diameters (I have a roll rated for 32 AWG) and shrunk even further. Since flexibility is a concern, thread solder or thin wire into the tubing, shrink it down with a cigarette lighter, and then bend and coil as necessary.

 

Ribbed ducting, such as in the AC system of the AH-1 Cobra or in NASCAR window vents, can also be created the same way, using a stretched spring as the core. Just be sure to anneal the spring first to allow you to shape it later.

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Posted by Bish on Tuesday, August 15, 2017 5:43 PM

I use beading wire, it can be bent to the shape you want and stays that way.

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Posted by littletimmy on Tuesday, August 15, 2017 6:18 PM

I have seen tubing at walmart in their fishing section. Apparently it's used fo lures ?

I would look into some small gauge electrical wire. use to use it for 1/87 scale fire hoses. I'm sure you could find the right diamiter for  1/48 hoses.

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Posted by Armor_Aficionado on Wednesday, August 16, 2017 5:22 AM
All, thanks for the great suggestions! I've already found online sources for shrink tubing and beading wire; still need to check out the fishing gear department for tubing. Found one very nice source of shrink tubing in black, 1/16" diameter, 6" lengths of tubing (unshrunk at 1/48 scale, that would make a nice 3" diameter, 24 ft. long hose) - a pack of 100 pieces for $9.59. Bish, question re the beading wire: I noticed that the beading wire comes in a nice variety of diameters and it's seven-strand braided stainless steel wire, which would come in handy for making cables for model dioramas, BUT it's coated with nylon. So, can the nylon coating be stripped/burned/melted off, for said use as scale cable? Thanks again for your input!

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Posted by Bish on Wednesday, August 16, 2017 5:27 AM

Armor_Aficionado
All, thanks for the great suggestions! I've already found online sources for shrink tubing and beading wire; still need to check out the fishing gear department for tubing. Found one very nice source of shrink tubing in black, 1/16" diameter, 6" lengths of tubing (unshrunk at 1/48 scale, that would make a nice 3" diameter, 24 ft. long hose) - a pack of 100 pieces for $9.59. Bish, question re the beading wire: I noticed that the beading wire comes in a nice variety of diameters and it's seven-strand braided stainless steel wire, which would come in handy for making cables for model dioramas, BUT it's coated with nylon. So, can the nylon coating be stripped/burned/melted off, for said use as scale cable? Thanks again for your input!
 

I have never tried it, most of the stuff i have is so smal its hard to see the wire. I do have an 18gauge one which is just a single piece of wire. But you can buy plain steel wire, i do have one of 34gauge. I only stared getting black wire to save on painting the bare metal for aircraft brake lines.

I have a selection of wire most of which are two brands from the US. One is labeled Craft Wire another Artistic wire.

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Posted by Raulduke on Wednesday, August 16, 2017 8:03 AM

Fly fishing line would work well for that scale. The floating kind

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Posted by Armor_Aficionado on Wednesday, August 16, 2017 8:49 AM
A-ha! Fly fishing line, how come I never thought of that? Thanks for the tip; are scale modellers the most resourceful people as far as finding ways to repurpose things originally meant for other purposes, or what?

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Posted by GlennH on Wednesday, August 16, 2017 9:32 AM

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A-ha! Fly fishing line, how come I never thought of that? Thanks for the tip; are scale modellers the most resourceful people as far as finding ways to repurpose things originally meant for other purposes, or what?
 

No kidding. I was thinking of things as I read the answers and stopped when I saw it solved. From a long ago memory that stuff has to be the exact diameter you are looking for plus probably easily paintable.

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Posted by jgeratic on Wednesday, August 16, 2017 10:02 AM

Another item to check out at fishing shops is lead free wire - they come in a variety of diameters.    I think the only choice is a  metal colour, but I've seen copper based ones (Ultra Wire) in a variety of colours, including black.   The advantage of wire is that it is easy to pose, while threads and plastic based ones can be fairly rigid.

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Posted by Cadet Chuck on Wednesday, August 16, 2017 8:46 PM

I've seen plastic tubing of many different sizes sold by the foot off of bulk spools at Home Depot, and other hardware stores.  Cheap!

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Posted by Don Stauffer on Thursday, August 17, 2017 9:16 AM

I use insulated electronics wiring, which comes in a number of gauges. It is commonly called hookup wire.  Many fuel hoses were black, and black is a very common color in hookup wire, but it comes in others too.  If you have any junk electronics, don't throw it away without salvaging the stuff inside. Take out any transformers, too.  Strip them down and they contain fine bare or varnished very fine wire, hard to get these days.  Telephone and computer cables also contain insulated wires, good for hoses and stuff like that.

 

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Posted by Tanker - Builder on Monday, August 21, 2017 1:05 PM

LEGO !

 Yes LEGO !

 They have many forms and sizes of tubing you can use .Go to www.Lego.com and click on parts, this will enable you to find this tubing .They use it in Duplos and Technic as well as the regular LEGO SETS  .

   Now you can get it smooth or rippled . I hope this helps . The other thing is electrical wiring the right outside diameter .Then Cut the length you need .Now here's the kicker ! Do you need a hollow look on the end ? Then pull on the plastic insulation till you have an open appearing end . Nip off the wire on the other end and go for it !

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Posted by the Baron on Thursday, August 24, 2017 9:38 PM

Don Stauffer

I use insulated electronics wiring, which comes in a number of gauges. It is commonly called hookup wire.  Many fuel hoses were black, and black is a very common color in hookup wire, but it comes in others too.  If you have any junk electronics, don't throw it away without salvaging the stuff inside. Take out any transformers, too.  Strip them down and they contain fine bare or varnished very fine wire, hard to get these days.  Telephone and computer cables also contain insulated wires, good for hoses and stuff like that.

 

I second Don.  I wondered why you wanted tubing, specifically, unless you needed to show the end of a hose, without any coupling, nozzle, etc.  I would use insulated electrical wire.  You can shape it as necessary, and it can be painted easily enough.

And as Don says, I salvage that material from old electronic equipment, radios, stereos, etc.

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Posted by GlennH on Friday, August 25, 2017 1:31 PM

Tanker - Builder

LEGO !

 Yes LEGO !

 They have many foms and sizes of tubing you can use .Go to www.Lego.com and click on parts this will enable you to find this tubing .They use it in Duplos and Technic as well as the regular LEGO SETS  .

   Now you can get it smooth or rippled . I hope this helps .

 

Got curious but could not find what you were talking about. Interesting anyway to poke around because I had no idea that had electric motor stuff.

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Posted by Tanker - Builder on Friday, August 25, 2017 7:35 PM

Hi Glenn H .;

   I must tell you .None of these LEGO sets are electronic .Just regular sets But they have some interesting tubing . You just have to look for it .Or call LEGO in Connecticut .

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Posted by GlennH on Friday, August 25, 2017 9:17 PM

Tanker - Builder

Hi Glenn H .;

   I must tell you .None of these LEGO sets are electronic .Just regular sets But they have some interesting tubing . You just have to look for it .Or call LEGO in Connecticut .

 

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Posted by Nino on Thursday, September 07, 2017 8:18 AM

Don Stauffer

I use insulated electronics wiring, which comes in a number of gauges. It is commonly called hookup wire.  Many fuel hoses were black, and black is a very common color in hookup wire, but it comes in others too.  If you have any junk electronics, don't throw it away without salvaging the stuff inside. Take out any transformers, too.  Strip them down and they contain fine bare or varnished very fine wire, hard to get these days.  Telephone and computer cables also contain insulated wires, good for hoses and stuff like that.

 

 

Don, That's what I have done- saved all the wiring from Junk. I even saved some Fiber-optic cables for future use. I had easy access to it thru my job.  I had the idea of stripping-out the wire on some really small-guage stuff and using the insulation to show an open pipe/hose. 

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Posted by Don Stauffer on Thursday, September 07, 2017 8:58 AM

Nino

 

 
Don Stauffer

I use insulated electronics wiring, which comes in a number of gauges. It is commonly called hookup wire.  Many fuel hoses were black, and black is a very common color in hookup wire, but it comes in others too.  If you have any junk electronics, don't throw it away without salvaging the stuff inside. Take out any transformers, too.  Strip them down and they contain fine bare or varnished very fine wire, hard to get these days.  Telephone and computer cables also contain insulated wires, good for hoses and stuff like that.

 

 

 

 

Don, That's what I have done- saved all the wiring from Junk. I even saved some Fiber-optic cables for future use. I had easy access to it thru my job.  I had the idea of stripping-out the wire on some really small-guage stuff and using the insulation to show an open pipe/hose. 

 

The problem with removing the wire core comes if you are bending it very much.  Then, the now-hollow insulation tube can crease at the bend.  If you leave the wire inside, it won't crease.  I sometimes strip the ends, then drill holes in a size appropriate for the core, to terminate at the end(s) with a strong bond.  But I leave the core in.

 

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Posted by STOVK on Sunday, October 08, 2017 6:40 PM

Have you thought of Piano Wire or Guitar Wire?

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Posted by Nino on Monday, October 09, 2017 1:14 AM

STOVK

Have you thought of Piano Wire or Guitar Wire?

 

STOVK,

       Wire for stringed instruments is perfect for lots of projects.  Guitar and Piano strings could be excelent for pipes ,cockpit cables, and hydralic lines. Wound Strings don’t do 90 degree bends well but they could curve around an object to simulate a reinforced tube or hose. Also, wound strings look a bit like Steel Cable or like they're stropped (shrouds or forestay anyone?). Wound strings could be used to simulate heavy rope used as a bumper or fender on a LCVP or tug for instance. Strings stay straight if you’re careful but they also can show a natural sag when suspended (refuling at sea?). 

     IMHO these strings might not be good for some things. For instance, they might not make good eyebolts as it is very tough to twist them. I think a more malleable metal like copper wire would work better for that.

     Note: Guitar and Piano strings can be dangerous. New strings come coiled and they can unwind and wack you. They can pr***/stick you when you are bending/handling them. Cut-off pieces fly off into the distant parts of the room never to be found till they’re found the hard way. Old/used Steel strings may have rust. So get your tetanus shot up to date.

     Nino

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Posted by Hunter on Monday, October 23, 2017 5:51 PM

The website listed below will have what you're looking for. They carry a very large selection in flexible plastic. Hope this helps

http://www.plastruct.com

Hunter 

      

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