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Cutting the perfect circle...?
Posted by SteveM on Monday, July 23, 2007 9:12 PM
Want to cut perfect circles out of thin brass. Any suggestions?

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Posted by IanIsBored2000 on Monday, July 23, 2007 9:45 PM
Depending on size maybe some kind of leather punch or other heavy  duty hole punch item.  Bigger than that, I'm curious too because I've needed the same thing before.  I'm guessing this is for the drum set you mentioned building?  Love to see pictures.
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Posted by kcmat on Tuesday, July 24, 2007 1:06 AM

Not sure how thick your talking but have you tried a punch and die set?

This is one from TBI. Pretty nice set. Are cheaper ones on the market as well.

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Posted by SteveM on Tuesday, July 24, 2007 6:13 AM
I'm going for 1" - 2" circles. yeah, Ian, for the drum kits' cymbals. I've got the double bass drums built so far (sans heads). I'll get a little more work done and post some pics. Not very interesting yet.

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Posted by IanIsBored2000 on Tuesday, July 24, 2007 9:11 AM
Smile [:)]
 kcmat wrote:

Not sure how thick your talking but have you tried a punch and die set?

This is one from TBI. Pretty nice set. Are cheaper ones on the market as well.

Ahhh, punch and die, that's the word I was looking for.  I'm not exactly a handyman but my dad's is teaching me slowly. 
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Posted by gtother on Tuesday, July 24, 2007 11:50 AM
I need to pick me up one of those.  Right now i have stolen my-brother-the-architect's metal triangle that has a bunch of different circle templates on it.  Not exactly the best method for circles...
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Posted by mfsob on Friday, July 27, 2007 8:50 AM

That's a nice punch and die set, but a little bit larger than what I'm used to using for 1/700 ships and such. I can go down to 0.018-inches with my Waldron sub-miniature punch and die set. Sadly, both the Waldron miniature and sub-miniature sets are only available through Roll Models now.

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Posted by kcmat on Friday, July 27, 2007 7:09 PM
Thought if maybe you had access to a lathe turning down the size punch you need would be easy as pie. But then with a lathe and some brass bar stock you could make your circle and not need the punch! Dunce [D)]
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Posted by iflyprops on Tuesday, November 6, 2007 5:59 PM

I can't remember what it is called but...

 You put this thing in a drill press, it has a drill bit in the center and a rotating arm with a cutting blade that is adjustable to make different diameter circles. Anyone know what I'm talking about...?

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Posted by Milairjunkie on Tuesday, November 6, 2007 6:57 PM

Is that not an expandable bit?

What about placing the material for cutting between two bits of wood, clamping it, using a small fine tooth HSS hole saw? You could used the pilot dill in the top bit of wood until the hole saw is "bedded", then remove the pilot & carry on through without it?

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Posted by Bgrigg on Tuesday, November 6, 2007 8:34 PM

That's what I call mine (this is a pic off the web and NOT mine!):

For cutting thin brass I would use simple cutting shears. All the hole saws I've seen have pretty large centering bits, which would be overscale for the cymbols. Slow and steady cutting and clean up with a good file would be better.

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Posted by HawkeyeHobbies on Tuesday, November 6, 2007 8:44 PM
They make a tool to cut holes in electrical boxes. You can rent them at some rental stores. I have two different sizes I used them to put holes in car roofs to install CB & Ham radio antennas. I think the were call chasis punches. Anyway you drill a hole, insert the stud that pulls the cutter and the die together. Tighten...snap you have a hole in the sheet metal and a perfect disc.

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Posted by Bgrigg on Tuesday, November 6, 2007 10:40 PM

Chassis cutter is the right term, but again the hole you have to drill would be oversized for cymbals. They DO work great on sheet metal, though!

 

Milairjunkie's idea of sandwiching the metal with wood to start with a standard hole saw sounds workable. I would still use rubber cement to anchor the metal, as you wouldn't be able to keep pressure on it once you cut through the top layer of wood. 

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Posted by Powder Monkey on Thursday, November 8, 2007 8:51 PM
Photoetching would do the job if you need to make a bunch of them.

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Posted by SteveM on Thursday, November 8, 2007 9:12 PM

Man, I really appreciate the think-tank that is going on here. I am considering each and every suggestion. I'm looking around at inexpensive lathes; when I can prove to my wife that she could benefit from one as well, I'll call Model Expo or someoneBig Smile [:D]

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Posted by rubaru on Friday, December 21, 2007 3:59 PM

If you're cutting something other than metal, try a product called "Circle Scissors".  Remember the old Spirograph toy that would let you draw all these cool designs?  Think about that...but with scissors instead of pens.

I got mine at Hobby Lobby for about $20.  It will cut circles up to about 8-inches at 1/16" increments.

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Posted by HawkeyeHobbies on Saturday, December 22, 2007 11:44 AM
 Bgrigg wrote:

Chassis cutter is the right term, but again the hole you have to drill would be oversized for cymbals. They DO work great on sheet metal, though!

 

Milairjunkie's idea of sandwiching the metal with wood to start with a standard hole saw sounds workable. I would still use rubber cement to anchor the metal, as you wouldn't be able to keep pressure on it once you cut through the top layer of wood. 

I've cut holes through soft metals without the use of the clamping screw that goes down the middle. I just lined them up and SMASHED with a rubber mallet. 

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Posted by Milairjunkie on Sunday, December 23, 2007 5:35 PM

Or how about copper/steel tube of the correct diameter, with one end carefully sharpened.

Blooter the brass sheet with this - bingo,

or if you refer, wham the whole lot into a vice, & close the vice using it as a press - come to think about it, you could use a press, with the brass sitting on hardwood to preserve its edge.

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