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Minicraft Light civil kits new out
Posted by Guild Aero on Monday, March 18, 2013 11:54 AM

Hi all,

just read of Minicraft's new releases of Cessna 172 on floats, Cessna 150 on wheels and Piper Super Cub on wheels, all in 1/48th scale.  The 172 even has removable cowlings with engine detail!

Good prices too.

Martin

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Posted by heepey on Monday, March 18, 2013 12:46 PM

These are reissues of Arii kits from some years ago. They are OK kits but still have some issues.

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Posted by Guild Aero on Monday, March 18, 2013 1:09 PM

You guys are never satisfied! <G>

What's wrong with them that can't be put right easily?

I thought Arii were 1/72nd scale

Martin

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Posted by Don Stauffer on Tuesday, March 19, 2013 9:26 AM

I have a new 172 on wheels and it definitely is new technology.  More detail than the old kits, finer details in castings.

Trouble putting right lack of engine detail like good cooling fins on Continentals and Lycomings is that no one makes resin engines of these opposed fours and sixes.  If you want to scratch an engine fine, but for those small engines it is one extensive job- harder than all the rest of the airplane.

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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Posted by heepey on Tuesday, March 19, 2013 9:48 AM

You're right Martin, Arii is 1/72. These were Entex, then Academy now Minicraft.

They are very nice kits but we always want more variety ;)

There were five kits in the series, the Cub, 172 on floats and wheels, a Bonanza V35, and a Cherokee 140.

I have not compared the new to the old side by side but the LHS opened one of the new 172s for me and it was just as I remembered the old ones. It would be interesting to see a side by side of the parts, not possible for me since I have built all my old ones. 

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Posted by Guild Aero on Tuesday, March 19, 2013 10:16 AM

To have any engine detail at all in a 1/48th model seems pretty good to me.  I could do a master for a Lycoming or Continental, but would sell so few it wouldn't be worth it.   Maybe a clever paint job would do it?  I don't know, having not seen these at any time.

That is a nice little set of suitable aircraft and well worth getting a hold of.

Thanks,

Martin

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Posted by heepey on Tuesday, March 19, 2013 11:43 AM

All of the kits have engines that seem accurate but it is hard to tell unless you have very good eyes. Normally the engine is not seen unless in a hanger being serviced.

Here is my rendition of the Cub.

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Posted by Guild Aero on Tuesday, March 19, 2013 11:58 AM

Very nice too.  I'll have to see about getting one for a look.

Martin

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Posted by Don Stauffer on Wednesday, March 20, 2013 9:11 AM

Guild Aero

To have any engine detail at all in a 1/48th model seems pretty good to me.  I could do a master for a Lycoming or Continental, but would sell so few it wouldn't be worth it.   Maybe a clever paint job would do it?  I don't know, having not seen these at any time.

That is a nice little set of suitable aircraft and well worth getting a hold of.

Thanks,

Martin

But the new 172 kit does have a very nice engine- very sharp detail.  That is an indication to me that it is a new kit.  The kit details are far crisper than on several other Minicraft kits that I have had for awhile.

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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Posted by mfsob on Wednesday, March 20, 2013 10:55 AM

Good to hear that Minicraft is finally ramping it up in the details department. Some of their earlier kits, especially in  1/144, are abominable - engines with flat faces, canopies with frame lines cast on the inside, you get the idea.

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Posted by Guild Aero on Wednesday, March 20, 2013 2:31 PM

Anything civil is welcome.  I've just scored a SMER 1/48th Piper L4 for a five pound note, which I shall convert to civil, like the one I once flew.  I have never had a lesson and yet the owner let me take off, do four circuits and land it , attended, but unaided.

That deserves a model, if not a medal!! (For the owner)

Martin

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Posted by Don Stauffer on Thursday, March 21, 2013 8:53 AM

Hasagawa also has a nice J3 in 1:48. It is in the queue for my bench.

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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Posted by Guild Aero on Thursday, March 21, 2013 9:01 AM

Thanks, Don, I'll look out for it,

Martin

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Posted by heepey on Thursday, March 21, 2013 9:29 AM

I haven't done the J-3s you referenced but I have done the Hobbycraft Canada kit. It is difficult to say the least. The fuse is clear and there are no alignment pins just to start.

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Posted by Guild Aero on Thursday, March 21, 2013 12:22 PM

Clear fuse?  A fiddly masking task ahead then?

Martin

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Posted by heepey on Thursday, March 21, 2013 7:09 PM

...and many coats of paint both inside and out.

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Posted by Don Stauffer on Friday, March 22, 2013 9:33 AM

Guild Aero

Clear fuse?  A fiddly masking task ahead then?

Martin

Whoops, that may be the kit I meant, rather than Hasagawa.  Mine has the transparent fuselage.  Detail is really nice, but the fuselage was a bear- ruined the first one.  Cannot seem to get masking for windows on inside to precisely match masking on outside!  Since most J-3s had same color inside and out, I intend to spray yellow on both inside and out before I glue fuselage sides together, then merely touch up seams after gluing together.  I am forewarned and will take major care on my second kit.

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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Posted by heepey on Friday, March 22, 2013 10:15 AM

there were also some significant issues with landing gear and the fit of the cowls around the engine as I remember. Lots of cutting and fitting to get it all to go together.

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Posted by Guild Aero on Friday, March 22, 2013 10:56 AM

But...the only game in town, so worth persevering with?

Martin

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Posted by Guild Aero on Friday, March 22, 2013 10:57 AM

Don, I'd be tempted to pint the insides by brush, glue it together and then mask only the outside windows to spray.

Martin

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Posted by Don Stauffer on Saturday, March 23, 2013 9:09 AM

My airbrushing skills are much better than my brush painting skills. It is very hard to get a truly brushmarkless finish on anything other than very small parts.  Still, maybe I should paint inside only, then mask for outside using paint on inside.

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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Posted by Guild Aero on Saturday, March 23, 2013 9:21 AM

That's what I was meaning, Don. Carefully brush paint the innards, then mask the outside and spray that. The insides will only show partly due to distortion through even the best canopies.  Suitably stunned by your external airbrush job people will be blown away!

Martin

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Posted by heepey on Saturday, March 23, 2013 10:57 PM

 I brush painted the inside of mine and the outside then set the decals in Future and coated the the whole thing with Future.

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Posted by Guild Aero on Sunday, March 24, 2013 5:12 AM

I used that stuff once and was initially delighted with it.  Then, after a week it started eating decals, paint, even self-etch primer!  2 YEARS later, I finally wiped it all off.  Every trace of finish came off on a dry rag.  Last week I sold the bottle of Future (Johnsons Kleer in Britain) for an indecent profit!  I now have Vallejo clear finishes.

On cars, I never varnish over decals as the decals on the real car are vinyl stickers and not as glossy as the paint, so an unvarnished decal is actually a more realistic finish.  Not sure about aircraft.  Aren't the markings painted on them (real ones I mean)?

Martin

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Posted by Don Stauffer on Sunday, March 24, 2013 11:04 AM

Guild Aero

That's what I was meaning, Don. Carefully brush paint the innards, then mask the outside and spray that. The insides will only show partly due to distortion through even the best canopies.  Suitably stunned by your external airbrush job people will be blown away!

Martin

No, I meant mask the inside, AIRbrush the yellow on the inside, then mask the outside of the window area to match how I masked the inside.  Since one can see quite a bit on the cockpit of a J-3 I do not trust myself to do a decent brush job inside, I am even considering cutting the door/window area open, since I see cubs parked that way a lot between flights.

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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Posted by Guild Aero on Sunday, March 24, 2013 11:23 AM

Ah, I was thinking that you wouldn't see any brush strokes on the inside through the glazing anyway. I guess you don't feel confident with a fine brush to do the glazing bars.  Not sure I'd feel confident to cut the masking to match, as per your original post.

Martin

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Posted by jeaton01 on Monday, March 25, 2013 8:51 PM

Don, I probably flew my Cub with the window up and the door down 90% of the time.  There was no outside handle on the door, I used to close it up with the window laying against it, then go around and pull down the left window, latch the door and window, then push the left widow up.

John

To see build logs for my models:  http://goldeneramodel.com/mymodels/mymodels.html

 

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Posted by CapnMac82 on Tuesday, March 26, 2013 2:09 AM

Am I misremembering that ARII had some 1/36 Cessna kits?

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