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LTP* Elco Crew info needed

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  • Member since
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  • From: UK
Posted by Jon_a_its on Saturday, December 27, 2008 10:27 AM
Thanks for the heads-up guys,  Captain [4:-)]but as the USN is not my area of expertise, I need pictorial & colo(u)r refs, Question [?]
Party [party]Merry Christmas.

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Posted by John @ WEM on Saturday, December 27, 2008 8:51 AM
 johncpo wrote:

  Better yet; make the Officers stay on the bridge, where they normally stay underway and the Chief Petty Officers on deck with various crews (Chiefs really run the Navy!)  that wore the dungaree uniform while working with a Khaki officer style hat without the Gold and with the Chief Petty Officer fouled anchor. Any WW2 movie i.e. "PT109" will show the working uniforms of all paygrades.

 Under battle stations the entire crew wore grey colored helmets with rank insignia or wording painted on respective helmets. For a small PT boat and I served on the modern PTFs out of Naval Amphib Base Coronado, the crew probably wouldn't have ranks on the helmets as everyone knew everyone else as a tight knit family of sorts. ( "CO, XO, etc")

 The Chief Petty Officer grades (E-7 thru E-9) are the mainstay of the Navy and responsible for the everyday operations, personnel manangement and training of the crews assigned to a department. I spent 24 years in the Navy and retired a Chief Petty Officer, not one person in the world could trade me for that experience.

Hi Chief,

Not to contradict, but from many photos I've examined, it would appear that the working uniform for CPOs during WW2 was the same dungaree rig as for E-1 through E-6, but with the normal CPO hat with a white or blue cover.

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Posted by johncpo on Wednesday, December 24, 2008 10:25 AM

  Better yet; make the Officers stay on the bridge, where they normally stay underway and the Chief Petty Officers on deck with various crews (Chiefs really run the Navy!)  that wore the dungaree uniform while working with a Khaki officer style hat without the Gold and with the Chief Petty Officer fouled anchor. Any WW2 movie i.e. "PT109" will show the working uniforms of all paygrades.

 Under battle stations the entire crew wore grey colored helmets with rank insignia or wording painted on respective helmets. For a small PT boat and I served on the modern PTFs out of Naval Amphib Base Coronado, the crew probably wouldn't have ranks on the helmets as everyone knew everyone else as a tight knit family of sorts. ( "CO, XO, etc")

 The Chief Petty Officer grades (E-7 thru E-9) are the mainstay of the Navy and responsible for the everyday operations, personnel manangement and training of the crews assigned to a department. I spent 24 years in the Navy and retired a Chief Petty Officer, not one person in the world could trade me for that experience.

 

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  • From: UK
Posted by Jon_a_its on Wednesday, December 24, 2008 7:41 AM
Hi, thanks for that!
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I've even got that set in my stash, Hmm, might have to scratch the chartroom, to get the Nav pouring over the maps... (rotfl!)
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Had been thinking about these or similar german figs, http://www.hannants.co.uk/search/?FULL=MT35011>
I've been thinking about a resupply scene with a navy Studebaker & working party.
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Trying to get hold of the Osprey Elite The US Navy in World War II, credit crunch notwithstanding.
I understand also that officers would be wearing khaki uniforms?
Similar to this? http://www.hannants.co.uk/search/?FULL=MB3514
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Hmm, the CM is still eating my CR's....

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  • From: Iowa
Posted by Hans von Hammer on Tuesday, December 23, 2008 6:27 PM

Look for the Tamiya sets for the M113 APC and "US Command Group" from the M577 types of figure sets... They'll need to have some putty work to "unblouse" the trousers and you'll have to make life jackets on 'em, but they'd be the easiest to convert and all of them have sleeves rolled up... You'll likely need a few heads as well, since what you ask for precludes the Squids from all wearing their steel pots, or you can do some more putty work on the heads that depict stuff like ball-caps, bandanas, or boonie-type headgear, maybe even some dixie-cup hats as well...

I don't know of any sets that are "US Sailors at Rest" types... You'll need to be creative.. 'Corse, come to think of it, if they're not "underway", you could get away with not using the life jackets as well, although there's a few that would have to have the web gear puttied over...

 Kinda depends on good you are on Frankensteining, but those Italeri figures would work to supply torsos with vests, combined with the Tamiya figs' legs and lower body and head/arms...

As for the colors of the uniforms, the Sailors would be wearing the standard Navy work dungarees with the  light blue shirts/dark blue trousers with the officers wearing khakis...

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  • From: UK
LTP* Elco Crew info needed
Posted by Jon_a_its on Tuesday, December 23, 2008 5:00 PM
I'd like to crew my Italeri Elco, as a RON 34/35 Southampton based boat.
but not using the awful Italeri IT5606 Elco PT Boat Crew or expensive resin!
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. I'm looking for figure sets I can 'easily' convert to a more 'relaxed setting, cleaning weapons, swabbing decks, having a brew, re-arming, etc, 10 figs not necessary!
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Somebody also produced a detail set for the Elco, which included the life-jackets as tied to the hand-rails, but I forget which...
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I need colo(u)r callouts for uniforms, & suggestions for base figure kits...Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]
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Thanks in advance guys...
*(ALL my builds are Long Term Projects)

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