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Are there any "rules"?
Posted by Stern0 on Thursday, January 8, 2009 5:53 AM
Looking at all the fantastic work here I have become obsessed with making my figs better. I have noticed that most that I have seen in progress are already equiped, (Holsters, canteens, ect), before painting begins. Is this the best way to paint? I generaly paint most equipment on the sprue and glue when clothing is painted...of course touchup is needed. I even put a base coat on the body before getting rid of any flash or seams. Some figs you can't get to everything to paint with just the arms on. Am I being lazy? Seems is actualy takes talent to paint them built....Are there unwritten rules or is it personal preference?
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Posted by Huxy on Thursday, January 8, 2009 6:53 AM

Well told by Agentg there.. Altough I'm far away from a master, I have more or less developed my own pattern..

Just paint, paint a little more, and paint a little more.. and tada, your own pattern!

 

One idea to you, that I have suggested to quite some "newbies" (not that you are, because I don't really know) is to buy a pack of infantry from Games Workshop's Warhammer 40.000. Preferably Imperial guards: Cadia shock troops... Altough sci-fi, you get 20 top notch moulded figures in 28mm (1/56th) for 18£ (27$). Theyare excellent to learn on Big Smile [:D]

 

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Posted by EasyMike on Thursday, January 8, 2009 7:57 AM

 Stern0 wrote:
...Are there ...rules or is it personal preference?...

RULE #1:  There are no rules.

Do what you like.

Smile [:)]

 

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Posted by ajlafleche on Thursday, January 8, 2009 7:58 AM

Basic rule: It Depends.

Generally, I paint equipment before attaching it to the figure. I usually assemble as much of the figure (arms/legs) as possible before painting. Sometimes, this is not at all practical, such as a figure with crossed arms that has a lot of detail on its chest. Whenever possible, I paint faces before attaching the head to the torso.

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Posted by Boba Fett on Thursday, January 8, 2009 9:56 AM
My figs look like lawn ornaments, but I usually paint the guy first, then pre paint the equipment then attach it to him. But it all depends on your preferance!

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Posted by the Baron on Thursday, January 8, 2009 12:28 PM

I follow the same sequence for any figure, whether it's a 1/48th Monogram pilot, or a 54mm Prussian hussar for my toy soldier collection.

1.  Clean the unpainted figure first, removing mold release compound (eg, on plastic figures) or accumulated dirt and dust (eg, on an old Stadden figure in a 3-figures-for-$10 bin at a toy soldier show)

2.  Clean any mold seams, sprue gate scars, etc

3.  Assemble the figure, if necessary

4. Prime the figure.

I repeat 2, 3 and 4 as necessary, because often priming shows places I missed.

5. Paint the figure.  I usually start with the basic skin tone and paint from the inside out, for any exposed skin and uniforms, then go back and pick out the details like facial features, uniform details.  That can include applying washes for highlighting, too (I can't paint faces in 1/72, too small.  Burnt siena to the rescue!).

6.  Apply any sealers as necessary

Those aren't necessarily hard and fast, of course.  There may be times when I do one before the other, or maybe leave one out (Stadden figures come primed from the factory, for example).  But it's a general sequence.

Hope that helps!

Brad

 

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Posted by Stern0 on Thursday, January 8, 2009 4:08 PM

This is one on my latest and with current techniqe the best I can do. The tanker is only washed to bring out detail, I am going to try some noted techniqes soon, mainly painting shadows and highlight. Thank you all for the great tips!

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, January 8, 2009 4:48 PM
 Stern0 wrote:

This is one on my latest and with current techniqe the best I can do. The tanker is only washed to bring out detail, I am going to try some noted techniqes soon, mainly painting shadows and highlight. Thank you all for the great tips!

Very nice...you are on your way, my friend...

I ususally completely assemble and then paint my figs...but everyone has a different style... 

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Posted by TacoBuff on Thursday, January 8, 2009 5:31 PM

I really enjoy the Dragon figure line (same line you're building right?). 

I trim the pieces of the sprue, remove flash, assemble, fill gaps, add gear, paint either the hands and face (or any other skin), paint the rest the base color, then add highlights in uniform, finish faces. 

Hope that helps, oh, and if you need a paint line, I use Tamiya acrylics (though most everyone here will frown at me when I say that).  I've heard vilajo are the best.

Great Figure by the way, the eyes are fantastic!

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Posted by Stern0 on Thursday, January 8, 2009 5:34 PM
Thank you MR, it must have been yours that I saw built before painting...again your figs are incredible..you have set the bar. Always look forward to your work.
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Posted by Stern0 on Thursday, January 8, 2009 5:46 PM
Thanks for the tips tacobuff and the complement. Yes they are dragon figs, I realy like the detail especially the gen 2. I have not settled on 1 paint, I usually use a mismash of many different paints from the model shop premium to 99 cent hobby paint. I may settle somedayBig Smile [:D]
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Posted by Huxy on Friday, January 9, 2009 4:47 AM

I use Vallejo (Say that to yourself, Tacobuff.. Vallejo.. Not Vilajo Big Smile [:D] ) the most, and often Citadel paints. And every now and then, a bit of Tamiya is needed...

 

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Posted by SteveM on Sunday, January 11, 2009 11:56 AM

I join the list of those who completely assemble, then paint- from inside to out. Uniform to belts to gear. I keep as mush skin off of the build (heads, hands) as possible and paint separately.

I have been trying the Vallejoo shading method, but I can't quite get a grip on the technique. At least, I am not happy with my results. 

I recommend going through the Figure Forum search, and look up figs by Fingers Eddie and ajlafleche. Two different masters / schools of styles at work (oil shading and acrylic shading, respectively). Pull from what you like. I have figures with combined oil and acrylic shading. Worse things have happened in the modeling world.

This guy is a combo of oils and acrylic shading / highlighting, picked up from both of those mentioned painters:

Hope this helps... just have fun with it.

Steve 

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Posted by Stern0 on Sunday, January 11, 2009 12:28 PM
Incredible Steve! Thats where I want to be, except painting as a whole my require TALENT! You guys are true artists.Bow [bow] What scale is that?  Awsome work!
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Posted by modelchasm on Sunday, January 11, 2009 7:12 PM

Personally, I typically assemble the whole figure minus the arms, head and helment (if one). I build up the arms and hands as sub-assembles. I also try and leave the weapon as it's own sub, but most 120mm figs have the weapon molded as part of the hand.

But, for the most part, I pretty much follow the above "instructions" ... of course in my own order as does everyone else.

The best thing/advice that I can give has already been stated ... find out what works best for you and go with it. Then, just pick up on other techniques and try them out. I've found great techniques from other that I've been able to work in with or replace mine.

my 2 cents....

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