M14 dilemma ....

Can yuo find an M1 garand? They are superficially very similar, hang a magazine under a garand, change the front end to replicate the upper handguard, and a bit of change under the front site, you should be ok.

Garand

M14

Hey! That's pretty close!

Does anyone know of a 120mm kit with a Garand in it? Guess that's the next thing on my "search" list.

Heres some: The first is pretty pricey.....

http://www.squadron.com/ItemDetails.asp?item=LP16004

http://www.squadron.com/ItemDetails.asp?item=MF9903

I think the above has an M1 but not sure.

http://www.squadron.com/NoStock.asp?item=WA16009

Hope this helps,

David

THAT'S AWESOME!!! I was actually thinking about getting that kit a while back. I'm mostly a WWII builder, but after my last deployment, I've been on a HUGE OIF/ OEF kick.

Thanks guys for your help! We'll let you know how it turns out ... Plus if anyone needs a 120mm M14, you know where to ask!

Good deal! Glad you could get sent in the right direction- I've been looking for 1/16 scale M14's and AK's for a while but kind of gave up on that a while back. I too have the 1/35 M14 from the Dragon Sniper kit, as it's OOP I have yet to break it off the spru- between that and the .50 cal, this is the only kit I know, resin or otherwise that has either weapon and I'm going to hold on to that thing until I get casting down to a science and make me a few- the M14 is one of my favorite rifles in military service. From Vietnam to the present day, bigger round than the M16/M4 family- wont just reach out and touch somebody- it'll reach out and knock someone off their feet

psstoff995 wrote:

Good deal! Glad you could get sent in the right direction- I've been looking for 1/16 scale M14's and AK's for a while but kind of gave up on that a while back. I too have the 1/35 M14 from the Dragon Sniper kit, as it's OOP I have yet to break it off the spru- between that and the .50 cal, this is the only kit I know, resin or otherwise that has either weapon and I'm going to hold on to that thing until I get casting down to a science and make me a few- the M14 is one of my favorite rifles in military service. From Vietnam to the present day, bigger round than the M16/M4 family- wont just reach out and touch somebody- it'll reach out and knock someone off their feet

That's very true ... and I speak from experience ... 5x rnds, 500m, 2x kills. Never would have happened with an M4 ... although I do love me a good M4 for house clearing. Nothing says "room clear" like a high velocity pencil lead flying through walls.

Psstoff .... shoot me a pm if you're interested in "how things turn out".

agentg wrote:

Your best bet is to moddify one of the M1's. In that scale a little brass or aluminum tube, some sheet stock and strips of beer can aluminum and you can have a very passable replica.

And yes, I swear by this method as well.

I'll be sure to let everyone know how things are going once I get started on it. Now its just "waitin' for the mail man to come" time........

PM sent modelchasm

high velocity pencil lead! haha

agentg wrote:

Ya'll get me tipsy 'nuff and I'll 'splain how to use madeuce as a sniper rifle....

... Same story as above ... My sniper took the engine block right out of the insurgents' car with the "cannon", then turned and engaged the driver. Both the engine and the driver looked about the same ...

How 6 guys crammed into a 4-door Opel and thought they could survive an engagement ... guess they didn't figure us sitting out there for three days. Like my grandfather used to tell me ... it's a self-correcting problem.

Anyways, that's another dio for later ... and NO, I'm NOT building a .50cal rifle in 120mm. Someone else is going to have to do that one .... But what a nice sniper dio that would make .... DANG IT!!! Here we go again. Plant seed, water, and watch it grow. It's a wonder I get any work done!?!?!

ww2modeler wrote:

Heres some: The first is pretty pricey..... http://www.squadron.com/ItemDetails.asp?item=LP16004 http://www.squadron.com/ItemDetails.asp?item=MF9903 I think the above has an M1 but not sure. http://www.squadron.com/NoStock.asp?item=WA16009 Hope this helps, David

I was looking at the above kits .... but I'm not sure that I want to spend that kind of money right now, especially since there are other kits that I'd like to build before getting around to either of these. I'm looking at Verlinden's WWII Gear Kit #576. Does anyone has experience with this gear kit or know of another 120mm WWII equipment kit with an M1 Garand in it?

Thanks for your continued help.

Well I am not sure if these help at all but......

Here is a picture of the gear set, I dont know where you saw it but I wasnt sure so I threw it in:

http://www.verlindenonline.com/store/120mm-us-weapons-equipment-wwii-576.html

Another one, sorta pricey though again:

http://www.greatmodels.com/~smartcart/cgi/display.cgi?item_num=VPI2197

This was all I could find. Sorry.

David

i know!!!! why not kit bash a m1 carbine with a garand, they both have some of the parts that belong on the m14 ,good luck

calvin ng

Jackpot!!!!!!!!!! Well I think........just found this:

I am pretty sure thats an M14.

http://www.deyun-hobby.com/main.html

Click on shop and its DS12007.......its pricey but you get what you want..

And here is a review of it!

http://www.planetfigure.com/forums/showthread.php?t=22791

Thats all I can find......

Hope this helps,

David

I found the equipment set on Scale Hobbiest for $18- can't beat that- and like calvin said above, I think if you cut the front end "grip" section off the M1 Garand and stuck a good bit of the front end from the Carbine on there- you'd be good to go with a little putty. Some rod or tubing for the barrel set up and I think you'd have it as far as the wooden frame was concerned. The box mag should be alright with a few layers of styrene I guess? I'm not quite up to your level of scratchbuilding so I'm not sure how I'd fare- but I think you could totally pull it off.

Based on the Wiki pictures and length dementions- this is what I came up with, not... 100% in scale with eachother, but pretty close I think.

Hope it helps if you try and scratch them all together

(The carbine's either way smaller than I thought or I messed up something- just the differense in mag size is crazy!- don't call it a carbine for nothing I guess...)

ww2modeler wrote:

Jackpot!!!!!!!!!! Well I think........just found this: I am pretty sure thats an M14. http://www.deyun-hobby.com/main.html Click on shop and its DS12007.......its pricey but you get what you want.. And here is a review of it! http://www.planetfigure.com/forums/showthread.php?t=22791 Thats all I can find...... Hope this helps, David

Awesome site! For close to $40 though, based on the quality of the molds- (from the pictures, not sure if this is accurate or not) I'm not sure I'd pay all that much. Hopfully though as most of the poses of all the kits on the site look pretty good and the subject matter looks accurate as far as I can tell- I'd say if the price came down, or a second generation of these kits/future kits were released with better looking folds in clothing/better molded boots equipment etc, I'd definitly pick some up. Good find WW2!

psstoff995 wrote:

ww2modeler wrote: Jackpot!!!!!!!!!! Well I think........just found this: I am pretty sure thats an M14. http://www.deyun-hobby.com/main.html Click on shop and its DS12007.......its pricey but you get what you want.. And here is a review of it! http://www.planetfigure.com/forums/showthread.php?t=22791 Thats all I can find...... Hope this helps, David Awesome site! For close to $40 though, based on the quality of the molds- (from the pictures, not sure if this is accurate or not) I'm not sure I'd pay all that much. Hopfully though as most of the poses of all the kits on the site look pretty good and the subject matter looks accurate as far as I can tell- I'd say if the price came down, or a second generation of these kits/future kits were released with better looking folds in clothing/better molded boots equipment etc, I'd definitly pick some up. Good find WW2!

Well actually its only 33.80 I think, so if that weopon kit is $18 then for less than half you would get the whole thing without all the scrathcbuilding........I always think the scratchbuilding part if more fun myself but it might be good just to get the kit with the rifle already made and save yourself the aggravation. Atleast with this you are guarenteed an M14.

In the end its your decision.

David

Yeah, that makes some sense. And you're right- $33, I was clicking through the other kits and one of them went for around $40, my fault.

I also agree with the guarented M14 + figure vs the possibility of an M14 and a bunch of WW2 packs... but I think modelchasm's a very talented scratchbuilderand could totally turn the $18 kit into an M14, so really it's more of a question of what he'd want.

An $18 M14 or a $33 M14

Pro's and Con's being the $18 comes with some WW2 equipment he may or may not want and the $33 comes with a figure and equipment he may or may not want.

Good find though, I've bookmarked the website and look forward to their future releases

ww2modeler wrote:

Jackpot!!!!!!!!!! Well I think........just found this: I am pretty sure thats an M14. http://www.deyun-hobby.com/main.html Click on shop and its DS12007.......its pricey but you get what you want.. And here is a review of it! http://www.planetfigure.com/forums/showthread.php?t=22791 Thats all I can find...... Hope this helps, David

I'm stunned .... that's the exact M14 set-up that I had. EXACTLY!!!!! And the figure's not all that bad either. It's a little steep, but I'd be saving myself time and casting supplies. Oh, but it goes against my very nature ... "if you're not scratch building, you're not trying...."

Now THERE's an M14 dilemma!!!!

WW2, you da man!!!!!! Thanks a million.

modelchasm wrote:

Oh, but it goes against my very nature ... "if you're not scratch building, you're not trying...." Now THERE's an M14 dilemma!!!!

I thought that'd put you into a predicament It looks like the review said it comes with a shorter scope, different barrel lengths and some extras as well-

The biggest thing that looked off was the barrel and flash supressor on the kit and the match up of the gloves to the arms, reading over the review more thoroughly revealed that the face resembles a teenager- so maybe this is an 18-19 year old Airborne sniper, could account for the smaller looking frame.

Still not sure if I'd go for the $33 but it does seem to be on par with other 1/16 figures in the forum

I'll probably just call it an early b-day present ... especially if all I've got to do is clean up a flash suppressor!

I'm not totally wild about the rest of the figure, especially the review saying that the face and the helmet are molded together ... that's a little strange. I'm also a little sketchy about the figure wearing the black "bear" fleece under the IBA ... if you even knew how thick those things are ... the ONLY time I ever wore one was over my gear, while sitting in a hole, in north Iraq for four days. You move an inch and you're burning up. Maybe isn't different in the mountains....

I will admit thought, that this kit would make a nice little dio, set in the mountains of A-stan with a little snow and rocks around him. Hmm ... just might go for it.

I'm also considering a couple of the others ... not all at once of course. I think that a good mixture of these kits, along with some others that I've got would make some nice figures later on.

modelchasm wrote:

I think that a good mixture of these kits, along with some others that I've got would make some nice figures later on.

haha hey that's close enough to scratch building for me! Frankestine figrues is how I do it.

But yeah I think the barrel would be an easier fix that the whole thing from the ground up.

Hey quick question-

was this your rail system?

I have an airsoft M14 with a rail system like this that I sprayed camo and was used as a movie prop by a film student friend of mine.

haha here's a picture actually-

No. I had the first type of rail mount for the site. It just screws into the stock opposite of the ejection port. The rails that I purchased for it replaced the sling mount towards the end of the stock. My ODA buddy later helped me mount a PEQ-4 on it as well.

I've got a picture somewhere. I'll try to find it an email it to you.