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Vallejo Paint help!

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Vallejo Paint help!
Posted by Lufttiger on Wednesday, March 4, 2009 1:21 PM

I've never used this stuff before til now, and so far i really like how it brushes on. But i want to try to airbrush with it. I don't have the airbrush ready stuff so i'm wondering should i mix the paint with Alcohal or water?, and what % should i use? Or maybe i should buy their thinner?

I sure apreciate any help on this, thanks.

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Posted by modelchasm on Wednesday, March 4, 2009 1:50 PM

Luft,

I use the same thing. I don't really feel the need to buy both products so I just get the regular acrylics. I don't use water except for cleaning, but I mostly use the Testor's Acrylics thinner in the blue bottle .... as it works with Model Master acrylics as well. I'm pretty much strictly an acrylics user ... but I'm starting to dab in oils a little.

But yeah, acrylics is the way to go in my book.

Check out my just completed OIF figure ... strictly acrylics!

"If you're not scratching, you're not trying!"  -Scott

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Posted by Lufttiger on Wednesday, March 4, 2009 2:26 PM
Beautiful job! on that modelchasm. So your saying for airbrushing i could use almost any acrylic thinner? Maybe even Tamiya thinner?

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  • From: Kristiansund, Norway
Posted by Huxy on Wednesday, March 4, 2009 2:47 PM

When spraying Vallejo paints trough the airbrush, I've always used water.. It works excellent!  You could check my Panzer I build in the armour section...  That's Vallejo airbrushing, thinned with water..

And I airbrush their regular "model colour" and "game colour"...  Altough it says on the side, "Do not spraypaint" Whistling [:-^]    But really, haven't had any troubles..

 

Hope it helps! 

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  • From: Iowa
Posted by Hans von Hammer on Wednesday, March 4, 2009 3:28 PM

I really gotta try that stuff...

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Posted by Huxy on Wednesday, March 4, 2009 3:33 PM
Hans? Where have you been? Not tried Vallejo yet?   Please, tell me you have atleast tried Citadel paints.. Shock [:O]

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Posted by Phil_H on Wednesday, March 4, 2009 5:52 PM
 Huxy wrote:

When spraying Vallejo paints trough the airbrush, I've always used water.. It works excellent!  You could check my Panzer I build in the armour section...  That's Vallejo airbrushing, thinned with water..

And I airbrush their regular "model colour" and "game colour"...  Altough it says on the side, "Do not spraypaint" Whistling [:-^]    But really, haven't had any troubles..

Hope it helps! 

When I've airbrushed the Model Color paints, I've just used distilled (well, demineralised) water. It works well, provided you don't over-thin as it will bead up and not adhere.

Vallejo paints seem to be only marginally compatible with alcohols, or completely incompatible depending on the type used. Ethyl (denatured) alcohol tends to make it flocculate (clump together in stucky lumps resembling cottage cheese). It seems to be less of an issue with Tamiya acrylic thinner, but I have heard of some incompatibility issues there too You can still clean it up using alcohol though. As a thinner, I'd suggest either Vallejo's own thinner or distilled water. Tap water may contain dissolved minerals which you don't want accumulating in your airbrush.

And I airbrush their regular "model colour" and "game colour"...  Altough it says on the side, "Do not spraypaint" Whistling [:-^]    But really, haven't had any troubles..

I believe this is a safety precaution, rather than an issue with the ability of the paint to be airbrushed.

Interesting reading here which is really applicable to any paint product, not strictly their own: http://www.portaldemodelismo.com/vallejo/seguridad/seguridad_gb.htm 

 

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  • From: East TX
Posted by modelchasm on Wednesday, March 4, 2009 8:04 PM

The Testors thinner that I have says that it's specifically for Vallejo and MM acrylics. I stay with something that says it's compatable.

Thank Hux, for the heads up on the thinning with the water. I just never got around to trying it, but it's good to know that it works. I find that the acrylics clean up a little better with the thinner rather than just using water.

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Posted by Avus on Thursday, March 5, 2009 1:08 AM

Veeery interesting: I never thought of using the "model colour" line with an air-brush. Guess I'll have to give it a try.

As for thining demineralized water works best for me; I tried Vallejo's thinner (it works but costs) and alcohol (makes flocks: no good).
Depending on what I'm doing the ratio changes from 1:1 to 3:2 water on paint (talking about "model air" range of colors).

Klaus

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Thursday, March 5, 2009 8:30 AM

 Huxy wrote:
Hans? Where have you been? Not tried Vallejo yet?   Please, tell me you have atleast tried Citadel paints.. Shock [:O]

Tamiya, Testor's, Testor's Model Master, Grumbacher oils... That's it...

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  • From: Kristiansund, Norway
Posted by Huxy on Thursday, March 5, 2009 9:30 AM

Hm...  Well, I recommend you to try both the citadel and vallejo paints...

 

But I got to admit.. I haven't tried Testors myself yet... I've heard they are some of the best! So when I finaly get around ordering something from USA, I'd add some Testors acrylic..  But what's the different between Testor's and Testor's MM??

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  • From: Iowa
Posted by Hans von Hammer on Thursday, March 5, 2009 10:22 AM

But what's the different between Testor's and Testor's MM??

Testor's is the original paint from that company, comes in 1/4 oz. square bottles... MM is more closely matched to FS numbers..

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