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Rei Ayanami
Posted by shrikes on Wednesday, December 10, 2003 2:18 PM
Okay, I've never done a figure or even worked with resin before, but i was wondering if there is a kit out there of Rei Ayanami from the anime series Neon Genesis Evangelion? I would've put this in the Sci-fi forum, but since it's a figure, maybe you guys would know more. Thanks in advance for any replies... Smile [:)]
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, December 10, 2003 2:28 PM
shrikes.

How many do you want of her? 100 or 200? Honestly, one of the most produced characters out there.

Plenty of Kits of her still out there, just watch out most of the Kits old online are pirated copies aka recasts.

Check Rainbow 10 or HLJ for the currently available kits from the series.

The Rei kits are normally easy to build and have few parts, great for a beginner. Building Resin figure Kits is VERY different from doing plastic Models, I can help you with it since I have been doing that type of kits for a few years now.

You will need to aquire a few new skills(pinning, etc) to make the kit look nice.

FYI, I have been working on a "Dying Rei in Entry Plug" Kit for a few months now, needed plebty of filling and sanding. The Kit is an Event Only and NOT available via shops.
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Posted by Enzo_Man on Wednesday, December 10, 2003 6:13 PM
Try www.hobbyfan.com I worked with them before and they're in the states unlike HLJ. Very quick shipping too. Check'm out
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, December 10, 2003 6:25 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Enzo_Man

Try www.hobbyfan.com I worked with them before and they're in the states unlike HLJ. Very quick shipping too. Check'm out


They also happen to be one of the biggest recasters out there. Angry [:(!] Angry [:(!]
Another big one is Animebox. Angry [:(!]Angry [:(!]

Recasts on average are 3~5% smaller and loose about 10~20% in detail compared to the original, resin is alos of a poorer quality, plus the recasters often combine parts so that they need fewer molds.

Sorry, got no friendly feeling towards recasters or people that support them. E-Bay is rife with recasts and it hurts to see my friends not getting licenses to produce new kits after they spend a lot of time and effort in getting the kits out.

R10 & HLj are guaranteed original Kits.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, December 10, 2003 10:57 PM
Hi All.

Just wanted to add the following before returning you to the topic:
If you want to find out more about pirated anime goods go and visit:

http://www.digital.anime.org.uk/piratefaq.html

Very nice page with some good info.

In addition to the page a few more points:
1.) Japan uses a system by which the price of an item is regulated, the agreed price NEEDS to be printed on the BOX/Packaging. Items can be sold below that price, but very seldom above it.
Some companies will show the price as part of the Item number:
e.g.: xx-yyyyy-9800
Where 9800 is the yen price of the Item.
The other way prices are written is in a Box/Rectangle surrounding the price

2.) Items will ALWAYS specify Maker and on what SERIES/GAME it is based, Sculptor name, etc and the makers adress will ALWAYS be in Japan.

3.) Resin Kits are produced in low numbers usually only a few hundreds (molds don't last long) and are usually sold out very quickly 6-12mnths re-issues are rare. Kits can be found after that time period but only in very small quantities.

4.) Any shop offering you spare/replacement parts that is NOT based in japan most likely makes them in the back-room and if they do the parts ...

5.) Packaging can be verified with Sites like Hobby Link Japan that show the original packaging, if it doesn't come in the riginal packaging turn it down.

6.) Even Only Kits:
This is something unique to japan anybody can sculpt and cast Kits and sell them at a convention in japan, the seller needs to apply for a 1-day licence exception with the event organisers. 6~9 mnths prior.
Usually those EO-Kits are sold in small quantities of 30~50, giving the average attendance figure of 15.000~20.000 per Event not a lot.
I have been to Events where there were 1.500 dealers.
The good ones are often sold out within 20 minutes and unfortunately many end up in the hands of recasters.
The Guys selling at those Events sculpt and produce kits in their spare-time and usually hope to break even and make enough money for an after-event party with friends.
These Kits will also sports the licencing sticker, item price, maker, series and at which Event it was sold.

Recasting and pirated goods are hurting the Anime market badly, already many Companies stopped producing goods or gone out of business due to recasting (Kaiyodo, Fewture, etc.) as the companies that own the rights are no longer willing to hand out licences to manufacturers.
Other Companies have introduced other steps to keep their Kits out of recasters hands.

7.) Publications:
At the moment one of the best publications out there to verify Kits is a Japanese magazine called "Replicant", it comes out now every 3 month and lists all the latest Kits with Information as to maker, no. of parts, price, etc. It also has Event reports where "Event Only" kits of interest are shown, sculpts that were never realised as Kits as well as sculptor interviews and many "How to do" articles.

Anyhuh, sorry for the long post, but it is a subject close to my heart.
For further info feel free to contact me, also if you need any help with building an Anime Kit drop me a line.
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Posted by shrikes on Wednesday, December 10, 2003 11:59 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by MadModelFactory
shrikes.

How many do you want of her? 100 or 200? Honestly, one of the most produced characters out there.

Plenty of Kits of her still out there, just watch out most of the Kits old online are pirated copies aka recasts.

Check Rainbow 10 or HLJ for the currently available kits from the series.

The Rei kits are normally easy to build and have few parts, great for a beginner. Building Resin figure Kits is VERY different from doing plastic Models, I can help you with it since I have been doing that type of kits for a few years now.

You will need to aquire a few new skills(pinning, etc) to make the kit look nice.

FYI, I have been working on a "Dying Rei in Entry Plug" Kit for a few months now, needed plebty of filling and sanding. The Kit is an Event Only and NOT available via shops.


Okay, i'm obviously new at this because i was checking prices and all that... do these things really go for 'round abouts a HUNDRED US dollars?!? [:0] At least with around 100-200 kits of Rei out there, maybe i can find a cheaper one to practice on (that isn't pirated)... I'm hoping to find one of her in a pose not unlike the series, just standing there wearing the entryplug suit or school uniform...
I'm also aware that building/painting a resin model is very different to applying camo to a P-47... especially since i have a hard time mixing paint to match a certain color. Does somone have a homepage to help me out with this (swanny has good stuff on his page, but almost exclusivly A/C)?
Sigh [sigh] so many kits, so little time and money... Smile [:)]
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, December 11, 2003 12:13 AM
QUOTE:
Okay, i'm obviously new at this because i was checking prices and all that... do these things really go for 'round abouts a HUNDRED US dollars?!?


Yes, Resin Kits are very pricey the raw material costs a lot and the casting process is very labour intensive.
Not a poor mans hobby, atleast I am poor now after buying the 70+ Resin Kits I got at home.
1/8 Kits = 4.800 ~ 9.000 yen
1/6 Kits = 7.800 ~ 19.000 Yen
1/4 Kits = 14.800 yen
The above is a rough guide. The most expensive Resin Kit I ever saw build cost above USD 2.000.

QUOTE:
I'm hoping to find one of her in a pose not unlike the series, just standing there wearing the entryplug suit or school uniform...


Entry plug suit Kits and the pose you are looking went out of fashion a few years ago, undressed kits of her seem to be in vogue now.[;|]
This is a rather nice Kit:
http://www.hlj.com/scripts/hljpage.cgi?KRS081
1/8 is ok for starters, 1/6 & 1/4 scale take more skill.

QUOTE:
Does somone have a homepage to help me out with this (swanny has good stuff on his page, but almost exclusivly A/C)?
Sigh [sigh] so many kits, so little time and money... Smile [:)]


Not much out there, that is not in japanese or not US Horror/Movie related.
Most of the people doing this type of stuff have a good bibiliography of japanese "How to Do" books.
Let me know and I can knock a quick guide together.

Most of the stuff online is like this:
http://www.geocities.com/MrShoujo/sailorvkit.html

FYI, I got some recipes for skin colours which might seem strange at first.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, December 11, 2003 12:34 AM
Actually, making a decent guide might be worthwhile I could host it on my Site.
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Posted by shrikes on Thursday, December 11, 2003 12:45 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by MadModelFactory

Yes, Resin Kits are very pricey the raw material costs a lot and the casting process is very labour intensive.
Not a poor mans hobby, atleast I am poor now after buying the 70+ Resin Kits I got at home.
1/8 Kits = 4.800 ~ 9.000 yen
1/6 Kits = 7.800 ~ 19.000 Yen
1/4 Kits = 14.800 yen
The above is a rough guide. The most expensive Resin Kit I ever saw build cost above USD 2.000.

Entry plug suit Kits and the pose you are looking went out of fashion a few years ago, undressed kits of her seem to be in vogue now.[;|]
This is a rather nice Kit:
http://www.hlj.com/scripts/hljpage.cgi?KRS081
1/8 is ok for starters, 1/6 & 1/4 scale take more skill.

FYI, I got some recipes for skin colours which might seem strange at first.


That's exactly the kind of thing i'd like to build! But the colors scare me... too much shiny gloss paint going on... (i'm terrified of fingerprints!)

Hmmm... I messed with painting the figures that came with planes and tanks before, and i couldn't get it to work... they were just convas colored blobs dressed in a monochrome uniform... oi. What's your secret, if you don't mind me asking? Maybe you could e-mail it to me if it's really secret! Wink [;)] Tongue [:P]

What should i be looking for again on the box? Maker, what series, the sculptor... is there some sort of official seal?
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, December 11, 2003 1:08 AM
QUOTE:
That's exactly the kind of thing i'd like to build! But the colors scare me... too much shiny gloss paint going on... (i'm terrified of fingerprints!)


Nothing scary there, most of it comes down to good surface preparation and good priming.
BTW, we NEVER touch the part after it was cleaned and primed, surgical gloves are commonly used.
We use a long Wire inserted into the holes that will be used to hold the pins to strenghten the glue joints to move the parts around for painting.

Good news coloring instructions are vague on those kits and you can get away with using an approximate colour. Most of the colours are mixed based on the Anime Cels or pictures from books.
Painting the Eyes is a skill in itself and done traditionally last.
Anime Kits are normally semi-gloss or flat coated, less gloss than on a Bike or Car model.

QUOTE:
Hmmm... I messed with painting the figures that came with planes and tanks before, and i couldn't get it to work... they were just convas colored blobs dressed in a monochrome uniform... oi.


Painting Anime Figures is different from painting those, an airbrush is a very good help there.
OTOH, you really only need the airbrush for the Skin-colour, everything else can be done by Can or brush, and yes you can get a smooth finish without an airbrush.

You will need good masking skills as you are dealing with fewer parts that will hold multiple colours. Most Kits got between 6~13 parts.

QUOTE:
What's your secret, if you don't mind me asking? Maybe you could e-mail it to me if it's really secret! Wink [;)] Tongue [:P]


No secrets, willing to share but It might get lengthy as I might need to get into many details. It would be better if i split it into sections like parts preparation, pinning, surface preparation, eyes, etc.

I got multiple methods for each depending on the quality and problem areas.
If the mods are willing I could start another thread that goes into details of building Resin Kits, I could also add pics taken with my Digi-Camera.
Not really in line with the standard FSM contents.

I am halfway through prepping a 1/6 Nadesico from Intron Depot which would be a good one to do,as it got a few problem areas that help highlite certain points.

Try mixing the flesh colour using White, Red, Clear Blue and Clear Oange not too much of the clear colours. And also start looking for a handheld pin-vise you will need to for drilling holes into your Kit.
This will get you started.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, December 11, 2003 1:16 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by shrikes

Originally posted by MadModelFactory
What should i be looking for again on the box? Maker, what series, the sculptor... is there some sort of official seal?


Maker will vary depending on the Kit., same with sculptor, It needs to spell out Neon Genesis Evangelio either in english or japanese and the character name.
The one on HLJ is an original Kit and the original package is shown, any other packaging of this Kit and you are looking at a recast..

The Kit needs to have the official licencing sticker for Gainax on it, a small square holographic sticker.
Check my link above to the link about pirated goods, it got some examples of the stickers, they usually are the same for toys and all other goods.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, December 11, 2003 2:12 AM
Shrikes.

I will send you an E-Mail later on from at home.
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Posted by J-Hulk on Friday, December 12, 2003 8:41 AM
MMF, good posts on the subject re-casts. I couldn't agree with you more!
~Brian
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, December 14, 2003 7:59 PM
Ok, Guys.

Here is the first draft for the intro section, still needs some claining up.

I will soon get the forst technique section up too, need to shoot a few pics first.
There are also a few problem areas listed for the people that are interested.

Link below:
Resin Kit Intro!

Sorry, guys moved the page temprorarily to a free server till I got my websie finalised and 100% a-ok, still debugging a bit of j-script for the photo album.
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, December 28, 2003 11:21 PM
Shrikes.

If you read this check the link below:

http://codyscoop.com/gallery/pp/realize-asukarei.shtml

I found the Rei today at a shop rather cheap, if you are interested let me know and maybe we can arrange something.
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Posted by shrikes on Monday, December 29, 2003 9:48 AM
I definetly like the asuka one, but i dunno about rei (although the ramen is interesting! this may be the first time i've heard of a kit requiring you to build soup! Tongue [:P])
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, December 29, 2003 3:04 PM
They had 2 Rei Kits there

1) K Piero Ramen eating. Rare and easy to build. ~ $35
1) 1/4 Scale Rei. HUUGE. ~ $60

The K. Piero Kit I can get rid of very quickly if you are not interested, it is one of 2 Kits of her that are highly in demand.

BOME and K. Piero are the most sought after sculptors over here.
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