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You be the judge ....
Posted by modelchasm on Friday, July 10, 2009 1:55 PM

So a while back I posted this ....

... 1/9 scale figure that was coming out (since been released). Dont' remember off the top of my head the manufacturer, but it is a modern Navy SEAL, titled "HALT!" I was considering this for a build, but the price about $125 kept me away.

Then I ran into this ....

... a 1/16 figure from LEGEND ... titled "HALT!"

Hmmm ....

Your opinions!?! ....

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Posted by figure freak on Friday, July 10, 2009 3:30 PM
personally im a WW2 guy so i like the SS guy the best
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Posted by camo junkie on Friday, July 10, 2009 4:08 PM
personally im a modern guy so i like the seal the best! Mischief [:-,]
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Posted by model maniac 96 on Friday, July 10, 2009 4:13 PM
I think that they are both cool, but I think I like the pose of the SEAL a little bit better.
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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Friday, July 10, 2009 4:53 PM

The SS figure's hand is a little... Swishy... I'd reposition it more in line with the SEAL figure's hand..

Otherwise, I'm not hearing "HALT!" from "Hans"...   I'm hearing, "THSTOP IT!" from "Bruno"..

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Posted by modelchasm on Friday, July 10, 2009 5:00 PM

Thanks Hans ... I just peed myself from laughing so hard.

I myself like the SEAL as well, but I guess my point in this thread was that I thought the sculptor for the SEAL kind-of "stole" the pose. I guess that's what I was conversation I was trying to strike ...

... or maybe I'm just bored.

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Posted by ajlafleche on Friday, July 10, 2009 5:58 PM
I lke the modern figure better...there's more mass to the arms and lower legs, the helmet straps are molded/included. On the German, the arms and legs look a bit too thin, the pose of the hand does seem a bit off and there are no helmet straps. Something anbout the boots looks not quite right as well. Of course, the higher quality paint job on the SEAL helps sell it, too.

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Posted by camo junkie on Friday, July 10, 2009 6:38 PM
 Hans von Hammer wrote:

The SS figure's hand is a little... Swishy... I'd reposition it more in line with the SEAL figure's hand..

Otherwise, I'm not hearing "HALT!" from "Hans"...   I'm hearing, "THSTOP IT!" from "Bruno"..

yeah i can never look at that pic the same way again...thanks hans! Laugh [(-D] ok m.c., remove it!!!!

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Posted by Grimmo on Friday, July 10, 2009 10:53 PM
 modelchasm wrote:

Thanks Hans ... I just peed myself from laughing so hard.

I myself like the SEAL as well, but I guess my point in this thread was that I thought the sculptor for the SEAL kind-of "stole" the pose. I guess that's what I was conversation I was trying to strike ...

... or maybe I'm just bored.

 

You're just bored.

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Posted by modelchasm on Saturday, July 11, 2009 8:14 PM
 Grimmo wrote:
 modelchasm wrote:

Thanks Hans ... I just peed myself from laughing so hard.

I myself like the SEAL as well, but I guess my point in this thread was that I thought the sculptor for the SEAL kind-of "stole" the pose. I guess that's what I was conversation I was trying to strike ...

... or maybe I'm just bored.

You're just bored.

HAHA! Thanks, Grim!

Maybe I'll ask for an early x-mas present .... then again ... I'll just end up hacking it up and converting it like crazy.

M. Roberts makes a "naked" figure that might be good for an all out scratch-build. Hmm ... might just had to piece this one together for build #1 of 2010....

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Posted by Stern0 on Thursday, July 16, 2009 9:28 PM
Go with the squid MC...The german does seem a little lite in his jack boots...As stated the seal is a better fig all around...Big Smile [:D]
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Posted by psstoff995 on Saturday, August 1, 2009 2:08 PM
If it was taken largely from the SS fig, I say it made good of the concept, while also improving on all the shortfalls. Artists usually build off of other artists- get inspiration and creative ideas etc.- just like how you want to build two 1/16 scale Army snipers from that picture, you aren’t stealing from them, you’re just giving it your perspective. I say from 1/16 scale to 1/9- it's not like he took the SS figure and modified it into a modern SEAL to use as a master for his line of figures- now that'd I'd call stealing. Worst case here is just too obvious a source of inspiration. If he did take the idea from the Legend kit- only really changing the hand and the era isn’t that drastic, then leaving the title as is?? Lol

As far as which kit, I’d spend the extra $ on the SEAL, bigger = more detail (if you have the shelf space) and from my experience Legend resin is always hit or miss as far as quality goes from my experience; of course that’s 1/35...

From what I recall, the SEAL figure was far from mainstream in terms of manufacture, so even if the resin quality isn’t a really expensive, fine quality, the quality control should be much tighter as I can’t imagine him cranking out 100s of kits a day- so probably not half as many bubbles and warped parts like I’ve seen with Legend resin.

-Chris

US Army Infantryman

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