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Question on a gunshot wound...
Posted by Boba Fett on Wednesday, September 30, 2009 4:35 PM

I'm painting up a small vingette by JAguar with 2 ss men in russian summer-fall uniforms in a trench defending aginst Russians. There's only 1 russian, who's in the middle of falling to the ground. However, looking at the figure, it appears that niether MP-40 and P-38 pistol (Or could be a Luger, Have to check again) fact they're pointed straight at him. Heart attack perhaps? Or all the Vodka? Anyway, there's no entry point for any bullet, shrapnel, or other projectile on the skin or clothes. It doesn't make sense to have the fig with no wounds, so how should I make a gunshot wound in him? I'm not trying to make this a gory procedure, but a gunshot is a gunshot. Since there's an MP-40 firing, with the P-38, I think 2-3 shots would be acceptable. I can tell the situation is also desperate since there's like 8 Mp-40 clips on the ground, and the SS officer also has his spade out. Anyone have an idea how I can make a couple wounds without overdoing it? I was thinking a TINY hole in several spots, with a diluted dark-red was in the vicinity o the wound. I'll see I I can get a pic up...

 

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Posted by ajlafleche on Wednesday, September 30, 2009 4:57 PM
I'd avoid a hole unless you're channeling the ghost of Sam Peckinpah. At most, a small dark spot, maroon to black, with neither flow nor spatter. An exit wound would be more ragged, but not all wounds are through and through. Given the recoil one would expect on full auto, there would not likely be a tight pattern, especially since the target was moving as well as the gun's barrel.

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Posted by Boba Fett on Wednesday, September 30, 2009 5:12 PM

When I said "hole" I mean something more akin to just poking the ****** with a pin. teh resin's soft enough to move a little, thus making a tiny hole. I think I'd avoid an exit hole, unless I place it in a very thin spot. Also, I wanted to add a bandage around the arm of the guy with the MP-40. Nothing says "desperate" like wounded and still fighting. Again, what would the color be? Obviously no hole, but a very dark patch on the bandage? Just thinking. Thanks for the tips though! Again, I just REALLY don't want it like blood and gore everywhere. But considering how much the Russians hated the Germans, and vice-versa...

 

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Posted by renarts on Wednesday, September 30, 2009 5:53 PM
entry wounds aren't ragged gaping maws. So as you already concluded they would only be as big as the bullet itself. The fabric of a shirt, tunic or jacket would too, only have that small hole and in some cases the hole may disappear in the folds and or quilting of the garment. As the wound bleed it will naturally seep blood and the surrounding garment that is making contact with the skin or wound will wick up that blood. I have seen gun shot wounds that were not apparent until the outer jacket or shirt was removed and the undergarment was soaked.
If you want to be obvious, I think within the context of the scene it will be pretty evident that even a small spot of blood is the result of the gun being aimed at the person. Or that the hand over the wound is an effect of a gun shot wound and the recipient trying to stem bleeding. No need for Peckinpah effects or Hammer vats of blood to get the point across.
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Posted by stikpusher on Wednesday, September 30, 2009 6:41 PM
Through clothing, a 9mm round makes a very small hole, not easy to see in real life full size, until it is highlighted in blood from the wound underneath. Especailly when one considers that ww2 soldiers are using ball rounds and not hollow points. The pose of the figures will have to convey the effect.

 

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Posted by ajlafleche on Wednesday, September 30, 2009 6:53 PM
If the bandage is fairly new, a redder blood color is warranted. If it's an older dressing, wherte the blood has dried, it will be reddisn brown. Any blood on the uniform should be very dark brown. The brightest color I'd consider using is Vallejo Games scar red or Alkizarin crimson in oils.

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Posted by Boba Fett on Wednesday, September 30, 2009 6:54 PM

 ajlafleche wrote:
If the bandage is fairly new, a redder blood color is warranted. If it's an older dressing, wherte the blood has dried, it will be reddisn brown. Any blood on the uniform should be very dark brown. The brightest color I'd consider using is Vallejo Games scar red or Alkizarin crimson in oils.

Ok. Thanks all for the tips. I'll post some pics as I do mre...

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Friday, October 2, 2009 1:05 PM

Dunno if you can see this well enough or not, but here's my version of a dressed leg wound..

I used Testor's gloss red with some brown added...

Here's one taking a face-shot...

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