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Auroa *** Tracy Kit with Rorschach Modification

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Posted by psstoff995 on Monday, June 7, 2010 11:34 PM

Oh wow that does sound like a mess.

Well good luck at the bench, I'll keep an eye out for updates.

-Chris

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Posted by smeagol the vile on Monday, June 7, 2010 3:01 PM

psstoff995

 

haha that bad huh? I've never build one, they're pretty pricey I'm surprised they're such a pain- or is it just a lot of clean up from the vacuform process?

its both.  getting them off of the vacuform sheets takes alot of work and ends up with alot of pain in your hands and fingers from all of it.  Then you have to clean all the excess off of the edges, alot of the time its not flat, but like broken bricks and such that has alot of detail, that takes a TON of time.  Ontop of that since its vacuform there are no guides or snaps to help fitting, so I use the excess plastic to make my own.   I also put some sculpting clay on the inside to give a backing for seam filling or else they just wont fill.  You also have to reinforce the inside because since its hollow when you grab it if you squeeze to hard itl bend in and all the seams will pop...

 

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Posted by smeagol the vile on Monday, June 7, 2010 2:00 PM

possibly but it would be EXTREMELY difficult, since it is cloth.  And it isn't suppose to really have much definition other then the Rorschach inkblot test patterns.

 

 

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Posted by bbrowniii on Monday, June 7, 2010 1:30 PM

smeagol the vile

As far as the face, I used old(old as in new, but had a hole) sock, cut a piece out and stretched it around the head, I super glued it to itself on the back to keep it on.  It was pulled tight to just keep the details of the ears and nose sticking out, like any super hero mask should.  I then used black paint and dripped it onto the sock to match the Rorschach ink blot patterns.  So ultimately there is not much detail in the face,

But could you weather the face some more to give it some 'pop'?

'All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing' - Edmund Burke (1770 ??)

 

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Posted by smeagol the vile on Monday, June 7, 2010 11:04 AM

/forums/t/128226.aspx

If that doesn't work its at the top of the paint/techniques page at the moment. Thread is called "Bandai 'Real Touch' paint markers, a review"

Thanks for the comments and criticism guys.

The 'the trashcan look so full but there's nothing inside the gash' train of thought was the exact same one that I had.

As far as the face, I used old(old as in new, but had a hole) sock, cut a piece out and stretched it around the head, I super glued it to itself on the back to keep it on.  It was pulled tight to just keep the details of the ears and nose sticking out, like any super hero mask should.  I then used black paint and dripped it onto the sock to match the Rorschach ink blot patterns.  So ultimately there is not much detail in the face, and the head has snap guides, it is meant to be facing that direction

 

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Posted by bbrowniii on Monday, June 7, 2010 10:37 AM

Hey Smeag,

After you posted this link over in the O&E discussion, just like Stik, I felt I should come over and take a look.  I'll have to echo many of Stiks observations that I'm not 'into' this storyline, so I don't know if I can comment on anything related to that.  However, I'd say your overall presentation is pretty sharp.  I think the painting is good and the details well done.  My only critique is on the face of your figure.  Two comments: one is that the angle of his head makes it difficult to see his face, but I don't know if you can really do anything about that.  The second thing is that the white of his face is pretty washed out.  Maybe it is due to the flash of your camera, but it just seems very stark in contrast to the rest of the scene - it seems like it needs some weathering/detail to dull it down a little bit and make it more consistent with the other parts.

Still, overall a heck of a nice job.

'All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing' - Edmund Burke (1770 ??)

 

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Posted by psstoff995 on Monday, June 7, 2010 9:15 AM

I don't think it's weird to say that I agree- great use of parafilm m I never would have thought of that- and it turned out looking just like it fit in from the start- almost like... huh I wonder what it was supposed to look like without that? It does sound strange to see a lot of trash in a can but then have a gouge taken out of the side revealing an empty void.

I think in the future you could probably handle the reworking of the gun if you wanted to. And that makes sense with the weathering then, I wasn't really sure how they worked. I tried to follow the link to the paint markers but it was broken for whatever reason, probably more to do with the site than the link you posted, I've found that a lot of the sites thread links don't work- and haven't worked after the change over. Maybe something to do with the automatic 6 month filtering?

Zombies are on hold right now... need some inspiration before I get to work on it, well, less inspiration and more urge to do the extreme tedium and painstaking work of another miniart vacuform building.

haha that bad huh? I've never build one, they're pretty pricey I'm surprised they're such a pain- or is it just a lot of clean up from the vacuform process?

-Chris

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Posted by smeagol the vile on Sunday, June 6, 2010 5:28 PM

Thanks.  As I said im using those paint markers for the shading, at this moment its really trial and error I like how they feel and work, but getting the colors right is an issue.  Im experimenting the use of gray and black for the same shading types to see how it works differently.

 

Im really proud of the trashcan lining, as weird as that is to say, It was a stroke of genius when I came up with the idea

Maybe in the future when I get a bit more bold and better with scratching Ill take the hand off (the hands aren't molded to the arms) and re-sculpt the gun to be his grappling gun.

Zombies are on hold right now... need some inspiration before I get to work on it, well, less inspiration and more urge to do the extreme tedium and painstaking work of another miniart vacuform building.

 

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Posted by psstoff995 on Sunday, June 6, 2010 4:36 PM

Rorschach wasn't really one to follow the rules and he had no problem killing people but he didn't use a gun. pretty much anything but. It looks good though, great conversion work, I really like the trashcan liner idea and the spray paint. Only thing I might point out that doesn' t quite work for me would be the shading, the inner parts of his folds appear solid black in contrast with the brown jacket. Not a real problem, and for what should be a night scene it almost fits- it would just need some blending work to get that harsh line between the brown/black a little more brown AND black you know?

I like it a lot though.

How are the Zombies coming?

And hey- nice hair cut- what's Hans got to complain about now? lol

-Chris

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Posted by smeagol the vile on Saturday, June 5, 2010 9:31 PM

You are right, but the gun is molded to the figure so I left it.

 

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Posted by total american patriot on Saturday, June 5, 2010 9:04 PM

I may be mistaken but Rorschach doesn't have a gun. He always carries a zip line gun. In the illustrated novel the watchmen are not allowed to kill people or else their relations with the public worsen

 

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Posted by Konigwolf13 on Wednesday, June 2, 2010 4:10 AM

The Missus loves it 10/10 (shes the big Watchmen fan, I just like the game Big Smile )

Andrew

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Auroa *** Tracy Kit with Rorschach Modification
Posted by smeagol the vile on Wednesday, June 2, 2010 1:55 AM

I Figure I should post this here.  It is a figure and I dont have a real complete build diary of this on the site anywhere.  I am missing photos for alot of steps but I will explain. 

For the paints I used
The building itself is a humbrol Brick Red Enamel.  The stucco was primed white then painted over with lichtgrau both enamel.  The window is Tamiya white acrylic, the shade with dark green humbrol enamel.  All the black is Tamiya black acrylic.  The can is some shade of humbrol gray enamel but I am not sure which I used.  The rust weathering is well, Model Masters Rust enamel.  The Purple 'spray paint' is Tamiya Purple Acrylic, and the posts are Tamiya German Gray Acrylic.
Rorschach's coat is Model Master Armor Sand or Raw Sienna (from what I can make out, its worn off) its Enamel with highlights from Tamiya Brown Acrylic, Tamiya Hull Red Acrylic, and very small bits of Model Master's Leather (I believe, their color labels wear off easily) Enamel.  The hat uses the same colors.  The pants are Tamiya Hull Red Acrylic with Tamiya brown acrylic highlights, same as the gloves.  The gun is Tamiya Acrylic Gun metal.

All of the weathering on the kit was done using Bandai Gundam 'Real Touch' Paint markers /forums/t/128226.aspx I HIGHLY recommend giving them a try.

For the base, first what I did was get the trashcan, it had a gash in it but no details on the inside, so I got some parafilm and made a trash bag.  I airbrushed it black and put it in the can.  After that I put the Plastic rubbish piece into the bag where it was meant to fit on the kit, and finished painting it all.

   










I then snap fitted *** and saw how he would fit in the scene and I then set to work on building him, ALOT of work





I then set forth to fix the window, it would not be good to have an open window with no back so using scrap plastic I fabricated a back, and painted it black. (the back of the kit is quite ugly, alot of hole plugups and fixes and jury rigged things back there... I may seal it up in the future).  I also had to extend it a bit to completely block out all openings, especially on the sides.














Ok, here is where the kit diverged EXTREMELY from what it should have been.  *** Tracy's paint scheme was... hard, to say the least, especially yellow, you all understand.  Not really knowing *** Tracy I noticed it was not hard to modify the kit to fit the character Rorschach (see ink blot tests) from the comic/movie Watchmen.  I used milliput to change the coat into a trench coat, I lengthened the lapels and added a raised collar.  I also added a scarf. 

On top of that, to make the mask, instead of painting it on I got a new sock that had received a hole thanks to an errant dropped exacto.  I cut a piece out (it cut nicly) I stretched it around the head and super glued the back.  I trimmed the excess off of the back, making it look like a smooth mask instead of a sock then painted the inkblots on the face using tamiya black acrylic, dropping it on in the right patterns.  I super glued the hat to that.  the sock stretched and fit the form nicely, you can still see the nose and ears but the other features are indistinguishable like they should be.

The final touch was that I put graffiti on the wall behind him in purple.  I used a sloppy free hand brush technique to try and replicate spray paint.  The words are not complete, as it is only a section of the wall.  This is what they say (these are from ad campaigns done in promotion of the movie)

If you didnt see the film the police were on strike the watchmen were acting as vigilante police, trying to protect the city and the populous was not pleased any longer.





And here is the finished product.






And as a last treat, its been a while since I posted a picture of myself, maybe... two years ago at Christmas, this is from my college graduation a few weeks ago, notice the hair cut...

 

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