Thank you, I've been trying to get the right color for years. The only other paint I haven't tired yet that I was aware of was Vallejo "USMC WWII Fatigue green" or somthing like that. I don't know if it comes close like the ones you have suggested. I am just glad to be getting some new colors to try out, thanks again and as soon as I get them painted I'll post some pictures of them, I plan to build a tarawa diorama here pretty soon.