You guys are repeating some urban legends in regards to pistols. I was issued a M1911 as. My duty weapon in 1984. It was junk- worn out. Move it around and the parts rattled like nuts & bolts in a coffee can. I would not get issued a GI M9 Baretta until much later in my career. And it was nice. As far as the military shooting +Ps goes, not allowed. Only standard ball ammo is issued, per Geneva convention. Only SOF types use the "hot load" 147 grain +P hollow points. The same round I have carried on duty for nearly 25 years as a cop and put thousands thru my department issue 92F with no slide cracks. It is a good pistol. As far as combat use of the M9 goes, there has not been much. Panama & Gulf War did not see much pistol shooting by guys issued M9s. By the time of OIF/OEF, the pistoleros who did combat shooting with handguns, had the new HK .45s. Shot placement is what drops your bad guys most, not caliber. A proficient shooter is far more likely to drop his target with a 9mm than a poor shooter with a .45. The SAS used the 9mm Browning High Power for decades with no complaints to drop lots of bad guys. Because they were proficient. It's the shooter that counts most in a gunfight.