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2016 "Most Wanted Kits" Survey

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2016 "Most Wanted Kits" Survey
Posted by Mark McGovern on Wednesday, April 6, 2016 10:17 AM

Once again, Figure models didn't make the cut.  I know we figure modelers are the wretched refuse, and that it will be a long cold day in Heck before a figure ever graces the cover of FSM.  But c'mon - the editors can't even throw us a sop and include a "Figures" box in the survey?  Especially now that they're running a regular figures column?

Mark McG. It seemed like a good idea at the time...

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Posted by Irish3335 on Friday, April 8, 2016 11:19 PM
I second that! It would be great if there was more focus on us small figure modeler soooo - more 120mm 1/16 figures that ARE NOT WWII Germans! Every German unit from WWII has officially beeen done, how about some WWI? Modern stuff? Sci Fi??
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Posted by Bucksco on Tuesday, April 12, 2016 3:40 PM

It took a while but occasionally we get to see the figures included with armor kits that are reviewed - maybe somebody will read this thread and take pity on us .....

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Posted by mississippivol on Tuesday, April 12, 2016 6:24 PM

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Posted by stikpusher on Tuesday, April 12, 2016 9:44 PM

mississippivol

Don't do it; it would be a .....bustWhistling

 

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Posted by the Baron on Wednesday, April 13, 2016 11:51 AM
I understand your frustration, but frankly, it doesn't bother me that the survey omits figures.  We have plenty of speciality forums (eg, PlanetFigure, Timelines, FigureMad, and on and on), and specific publications, for figures, that if FSM doesn't cover it, I'm not missing anything.
 
Also, I think the community of manufacturers for figures is different from that of the scale modelers.  It includes so many small manufacturers, including garage kitters, who are in relatively closer contact, than we are with Tamiya, Hasegawa, Revell, etc, and are able to respond faster. I think of the members at PlanetFigure who produce figures, for example, and are able to communicate via the forum, to collect opinions, suggestions, and other info, on subjects to produce.
 
I think if we compare the variety of figures available to us, in terms of the subjects depicted as well as in terms of scale, we have much bigger and better selection, than the average armor builder, say, or airplane builder.  So I think we're doing OK.

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Posted by jeffpez on Wednesday, April 13, 2016 12:13 PM

The point of the survey is for us to voice what kits we want to see offered for sale so leaving out catagories isn't right. I think at a minimum there should be a catch all catagory like "other" where people who want figures or, like me, construction equipment, can state it. I have no idea if anyone from FSM or a manufacturer is reading this comment and that's the problem with relying only on a forum - it may very well go unnoticed. You say that past surveys have had results so please FSM, step up and fix the survey so we all can have our say.

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Posted by stikpusher on Wednesday, April 13, 2016 12:38 PM

It would be nice if FSM were to add a figures catagory and then break it down into sub catagories by scale such as 1/48, 1/35, 1/16, Other. There are a more figures out there now than ever before, but some areas are  more "target rich" than others. And of course it would be the injection plastic as opposed to other mediums as all the rest of the kits in the survey forums are supposed to be...

 

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Posted by Highlander242 on Wednesday, April 13, 2016 12:51 PM

Hey guys,

 

Not sure if anything can or will be done but I do know that s few at FS do read the comments here.

 

Joe

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Posted by dirkpitt77 on Wednesday, April 13, 2016 7:14 PM

I agree with the figures comments. I ended up putting my figure requests in Real Space, since I'd love to see a few sets of astronaut figures as well as some nice generic sci-fi astronaut figures. I've searched all over and can't seem to find any that fit the bill.

 

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Posted by dirkpitt77 on Wednesday, April 13, 2016 7:20 PM

Here's another thought---

I wonder what the process is once the survey closes. Does FSM have someone compile this information into a neat little table or chart or something? And who gets that unenviable task? And how does it get into the hands of the kit makers?

 

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Posted by Mark McGovern on Thursday, April 14, 2016 8:40 AM

the Baron
...We have plenty of speciality forums (eg, PlanetFigure, Timelines, FigureMad, and on and on), and specific publications, for figures, that if FSM doesn't cover it, I'm not missing anything.

My dear Baron,

I prefer to spend more time at the workbench than on my computer, same goes for reading a hard copy of FSM over visiting modeling web sites (this post notwithstanding).  There are  forums for every type of model, but that doesn't keep the magazine from covering the Triple As.  I don't think it's asking too much that FSM include a Figures category, for all the same reasons - and possible benefits to us builders - as the other classes of models.

Mark McG. It seemed like a good idea at the time...

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Posted by the Baron on Thursday, April 14, 2016 11:51 AM

Mark McGovern

 

 the Baron
...We have plenty of speciality forums (eg, PlanetFigure, Timelines, FigureMad, and on and on), and specific publications, for figures, that if FSM doesn't cover it, I'm not missing anything.

My dear Baron,

 

I prefer to spend more time at the workbench than on my computer, same goes for reading a hard copy of FSM over visiting modeling web sites (this post notwithstanding).  There are  forums for every type of model, but that doesn't keep the magazine from covering the Triple As.  I don't think it's asking too much that FSM include a Figures category, for all the same reasons - and possible benefits to us builders - as the other classes of models.

 

 
I get magazines on figures, too, and so, again, if FineScale doesn't have that much or has no content on figures, I don't see it as a big deal.  The magazine is really in a position in which it has to play catch-up, if it wants to increase readership among figure painters by adding content for them.

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Posted by Aaron Skinner on Thursday, April 14, 2016 3:18 PM

Guys,

Thanks for the comments about figures or lack thereof in the survey. The problem we have is that figures is such a wideranging genre with so much minor variations between, for example, fallschirmjäger in 1942 vs fallschirmjäger in 1944 that it is difficult to get meaningful results. It is not by any means a slight against figure modelers. In fact, we recently started a regular feature about painting figures.

Dirk: The results are tabulated by hand by the staff. It's the only way to account for subtle differences in spelling and designations. The manufacturers see the results when you guys do — when the magazine comes out.

Cheers, Aaron 

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Posted by dirkpitt77 on Thursday, April 14, 2016 5:23 PM

Thanks, Aaron! 

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Posted by Irish3335 on Monday, April 18, 2016 10:28 PM

Hi Aaron, 

thanks for the clarification, there are still a ton of untapped figure and scales that manufacturers seem to ignore - more 1/24 and 1/25 scale figures to put with autos would be great, some more large scale (1/16 and 120mm) figures that cover a wider spectrum (not just the two world wars) and sci fi figures.  Your most wanted forum would allow for us lowly figure modeler to have a voice in the mix ! 

 

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Posted by Mark McGovern on Thursday, April 21, 2016 8:28 AM

Aaron,

I would add that there are enormous variations within any model category.  There are kits of Triple A subjects appearing all the time in a variety of scales, with equally minute distinctions. With all due respect, I don't see the issue of variations in subject or scale being much of an argument against including a Figures category in FSM's survey.  Indeed, you only mentioned military figures - why not Sci-Fi/Fantasy subjects?  You'll find a a wide range of subjects from 1/4 to 1/13 scale and smaller there.

Mark McG. It seemed like a good idea at the time...

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