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Posted by templar1099 on Friday, May 6, 2016 4:49 PM

Bish, what is the hesitancy about, look or realism? I ask because you can not discount the possibility that a member of that rank may have had a steel helmet, at that time in the empire.

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Posted by jgeratic on Friday, May 6, 2016 4:23 PM

Maybe polished is not the right term, but I'm sure during down time soldiers were tasked with keeping their armour clean.  It was also the best way to keep iron from deteriorating.  I have also read that the iron strips were laminated, but no idea what that does to the physical appearance.

http://www.romanarmytalk.com/rat/thread-17693.html

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Jack

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Posted by templar1099 on Friday, May 6, 2016 2:41 PM

Also the standard bearers were better equipped than the legionnaires. And their metallurgy improved exponentially.

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Posted by Bish on Friday, May 6, 2016 2:33 PM

The Hobbyist

Just keep in mind that ancient armortr isn't supposed to look like polished chrome...I keep seeing references to shiny and sheens...would look like burnished steel or pig iron at best...think of a VERY old galvanized chain-link fence or tin roof...

 

No, i wasn't going to go for the look you see on modern re-inactors. I think just a light thin coat over what i have will do the job, but i am goign to do some tests first. I do like the finish of the Humbrol steel, it just needs a little something over it.

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Posted by Bish on Friday, May 6, 2016 2:21 PM

According to the box, 1st century AD.

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Posted by templar1099 on Friday, May 6, 2016 2:15 PM

Curious, what era?

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Posted by Bish on Friday, May 6, 2016 1:58 PM

Gamera

Bish: Have you looked at the Citadel/Warhammer line of paints? They're made for gaming figures and have a really nice metallic line for stuff like swords, axes, plate armour etc.

 

Now thats a thought, no, i hadn't. I have just checked there range and they have a Runefang Steel i like the look of. Thanks for the suggestion.

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Posted by Gamera on Friday, May 6, 2016 1:47 PM

Bish: Have you looked at the Citadel/Warhammer line of paints? They're made for gaming figures and have a really nice metallic line for stuff like swords, axes, plate armour etc.

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Posted by GMorrison on Friday, May 6, 2016 11:04 AM

When you get to the highlights try hitting the model from above with the AB with light color, holding the angle steady like sunlight.

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Posted by Bish on Friday, May 6, 2016 10:21 AM

Thanks all for the comments guys.

templar, i had looked at burnt iron, but it seem a bit to dark for me. MM is impossable to get over here, but Alclad does one and i was not to keen on the look of it.

Jack, ye, i had primed it with black Alclad, at least i got that bit right. I had thought about a thin coat of alclad over this. After reading that, i might finish off shining this up and do some tests over the weekend, see how it goes. thanks for that link, really handy.

Thanks Robert, but i think i migt stick to the metalic colours, see how the Alclad come off. I would like a slight shine to this when its done.

Thanks again, i will do some trials and then post some pics once the metal is done. then i can give some thought to the fur, but got a few ideas for that.

 

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Posted by jgeratic on Friday, May 6, 2016 9:58 AM

Yes, I do believe Robert is referring to the technique of NMM (non metallic metal) painting, very popular among figure painters.

Essentially you use non-metalic paints to create the metal look.  Takes more thinking and planning out the light source, as you can't rely on natural lighting to give surfaces that reflective look - the painted highlights do that instead.

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Jack

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Posted by Modelrob on Friday, May 6, 2016 5:17 AM
Bish,
You might be able to use a color similar to Vallejo Model Color Neutral Gray.  Then use black and white to make your shadow and highlight colors.   I would probably try this method. Hope this helps.

 

Robert
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Posted by jgeratic on Friday, May 6, 2016 12:10 AM

I think the armour back then was made of iron, but it was polished to some degree  - not certain burnt iron paint would work.

You can find a number of these painted busts at PlanetFigure.  I found one particulalry interesting as they too used Metalcote Polished Steel, but over a black primer first.  They also applied aluminum for more shine;

http://www.planetfigure.com/threads/painting-an-armor-with-few-colors-help.76238/

regards,

Jack

 

 

 

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Posted by templar1099 on Thursday, May 5, 2016 5:00 PM

Model Master metalizer lacquer-Burnt Iron ?

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Need some help with Roman armour
Posted by Bish on Thursday, May 5, 2016 4:24 PM

No, i am not talking about some unheard of horse towed tank of the Roman legions. I have just started on a 1/10 bust of a Roman signifer. I have been putting this off for months because i was not sure how to paint the armour, and i can find no help in online searches. I am going for the lok as shown on the box.

I decided to try out Humbrols metal cote polished steel. But it has come out that dark steel colour. I have polished a couple of sections on the arms, and while its gone shiny, it still has that dark look.

So, any suggestions. Maybe thinking steel is the wrong way to go, i am thinking it should be iron, but still not sure how to get the right look.

Any help very much appreciated.

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