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White T shirt tips?
Posted by Justinryan215 on Tuesday, August 27, 2019 2:59 PM

So, I got this guy

 

to lean on my 49 Merc...He came painted, and, not one to settle for good enough, I stripped him with some easy off and am working on a repaint.  Ive got the flesh finished, but I want to change the color of his shirt from black to white, but I cant seem to find any guides to painting convincing white clothing....anyone have favorite tips and tricks/color pallets to share?

 

Here is where he is now....

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Posted by GMorrison on Tuesday, August 27, 2019 3:25 PM

Folks who paint faces like that make me want to switch to stacking pennies for a hobby. Really well done.

I find that painting things white can be helped by adding a drop of blue in the white. 

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Posted by Justinryan215 on Wednesday, August 28, 2019 6:12 AM

HAHAHAHA!  thanks for the compliment, and the tip!

GMorrison

Folks who paint faces like that make me want to switch to stacking pennies for a hobby. Really well done.

I find that painting things white can be helped by adding a drop of blue in the white. 

 

"...failure to do anything because someone else can do better makes us rather dull and lazy..."

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Posted by ajlafleche on Wednesday, August 28, 2019 11:09 AM

Vallejo has a set of black and white paints, 8 bottles,  with a guide for with agide for both  black and white. I've had very good results following this. Squadron carries it. 

https://www.squadron.com/Vallejo-Black-White-Color-Set-p/vj70151.htm 

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Posted by Justinryan215 on Thursday, August 29, 2019 7:20 AM

ajlafleche

Vallejo has a set of black and white paints, 8 bottles,  with a guide for with agide for both  black and white. I've had very good results following this. Squadron carries it. 

https://www.squadron.com/Vallejo-Black-White-Color-Set-p/vj70151.htm 

 

 

Looking into this!  I love Vallejo sets, and this looks like it'll be just what I need!  

 

Thank You!

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Posted by gregbale on Thursday, August 29, 2019 9:34 AM

Very interested to see how this comes out. Great work on the flesh tones!

In case you haven't already seen them, there are loads of videos on Youtube with guides to painting white on miniatures. (Admittedly, most are for painting wizards' robes and such, but the skill-set is the same.Big Smile)

My own technique (from having started out in the painting realm with oils-on-canvas) would be to go with a slightly blue-er gray as a base coat, then work up through grays toward white in thin layers. It's often (somewhat counter-intuitively) easier to visualize the process going dark-to-light than in the opposite direction.

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Posted by Justinryan215 on Thursday, August 29, 2019 9:42 AM

Greg, I  did do seveal searches, as Youtube had never let me down before, but for some reason, I was getting results in my searches that were not really what I needed...

I definitely was thinging dark to light with blends, but I kind of wanted to see a starting point for how dark to start.  

 

I started work on the blue jeans the other night, and I'm not super pleased with how its looking, but I think if I can induce my Vallejo Matte clear to frost just a bit, I should be right there! lol

"...failure to do anything because someone else can do better makes us rather dull and lazy..."

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Posted by gregbale on Thursday, August 29, 2019 9:49 AM

Justinryan215
I definitely was thinging dark to light with blends, but I kind of wanted to see a starting point for how dark to start.

It's all somewhat 'by eye,' of course but a good rule of thumb is to try to visualize your darkest anticipated 'shadow' tone...then go a step darker. (Though they're different hues, of course, your completed flesh painting should give you a good 'close to' value for your shadows. That will help keep everything in register.)

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Posted by the Baron on Thursday, August 29, 2019 1:29 PM

Justinryan215

...Ive got the flesh finished, but I want to change the color of his shirt from black to white, but I cant seem to find any guides to painting convincing white clothing....anyone have favorite tips and tricks/color pallets to share?

Hi, Justin!  My advice follows on Greg's in the previous post, regarding going off a shade.  That is, for this particular application, I would use an off-white as my base color, almost a very light grey, like Tamiya's lighter shade of their Fine Surface Primer, a little lighter than that.  But not white.  Save plain ol' white for the highlight color-on the folds, for example, and as lights on the tops of his shoulders.  Plain white would be too bright.  And the shadow would be just a bit darker than your base.

I would try this, too-put on a white t-shirt, and look at yourself in the mirror.  Note the shades and highlights.  Then go outside, and note them.  These things can help visualize the colors.

Al's suggestion of the color set can help take the guesswork out of it for you, too.  I'm more of a seat-of-the-pants painter, eyeballing it and adjusting.

But pure white-and pure black, for that matter-won't work to produce the result.  That's a mistake that a lot of guys make, as they're learning and practicing.

Hope that helps!

Best regards,

Brad

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Posted by Justinryan215 on Thursday, August 29, 2019 6:28 PM

the Baron

 

 
Justinryan215

...Ive got the flesh finished, but I want to change the color of his shirt from black to white, but I cant seem to find any guides to painting convincing white clothing....anyone have favorite tips and tricks/color pallets to share?

 

 

Hi, Justin!  My advice follows on Greg's in the previous post, regarding going off a shade.  That is, for this particular application, I would use an off-white as my base color, almost a very light grey, like Tamiya's lighter shade of their Fine Surface Primer, a little lighter than that.  But not white.  Save plain ol' white for the highlight color-on the folds, for example, and as lights on the tops of his shoulders.  Plain white would be too bright.  And the shadow would be just a bit darker than your base.

I would try this, too-put on a white t-shirt, and look at yourself in the mirror.  Note the shades and highlights.  Then go outside, and note them.  These things can help visualize the colors.

Al's suggestion of the color set can help take the guesswork out of it for you, too.  I'm more of a seat-of-the-pants painter, eyeballing it and adjusting.

But pure white-and pure black, for that matter-won't work to produce the result.  That's a mistake that a lot of guys make, as they're learning and practicing.

Hope that helps!

Best regards,

Brad

 

 

Hey Brad!  Thanks for the advice!  I, too, am a seat of the pants painter, constantly adding glaze layers until it's just right...

I knew that it would take a grey or off white in the shadows, as the pure white would definitely be what I would want for the highlights.  The question was how far "off grey" to go for the shadows.  I like the idea of having several whites and blacks and greys to choose from, so I did pick up the set, as I'm sure I will use them for more than just this project!

 

 

 

 

....now, to come up with a convincing pack of smokes and some additional "sleeve", and to see if my pos computer is up for the challenge for a special little twist....A decal tattoo!   

"...failure to do anything because someone else can do better makes us rather dull and lazy..."

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Posted by the Baron on Friday, August 30, 2019 10:33 AM

Justinryan215

....now, to come up with a convincing pack of smokes and some additional "sleeve", and to see if my pos computer is up for the challenge for a special little twist....A decal tattoo!  

Hi, Justin, sure thing!

I think you could add the sleeves easily enough with a little bit of putty.  I'd use a piece of resin or styrene sprue for the pack of smokes.  Slice a piece off a pouring gate, or from a part number tag on a sprue, or even use a piece of styrene sheet, cut to shape.  You can glue it in place, then putty over it to make the rolled sleeve.

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Posted by CapnMac82 on Sunday, September 1, 2019 11:20 PM

Justinryan215
as the pure white would definitely be what I would want for the highlights

Really pale gray (like one of the variants of "sky grey" will likely look more white than actual withe would.

And, you should probably modulate the base color coat, rather than using a full bright white, which could look like a second color, rather than a highlight.

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Posted by Justinryan215 on Friday, September 6, 2019 8:13 AM

as per my usual build style, I just need to make a small base for it and this build is done.

Her are the phonw shots so you can see how my white tshirt came out.

 

"...failure to do anything because someone else can do better makes us rather dull and lazy..."

Mortal as I am,I know that I am born for a day.  But when I follow at my pleasure the serried multitude of the stars in their circular course, my feet no longer touch the Earth...

 

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Posted by Tanker - Builder on Friday, September 6, 2019 8:37 AM

Hi;

 Although I don't do figures much here's what I do. For White shirts or Uniforms, I take a mix of very light ( almost white ) Light Blue and Grey and mix them. I paint them on first in the shadows then add the Off-White in successive washes till I get the tones and shadows I am looking for. Then I seal it and leave it to dry. 

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Posted by Gamera on Friday, September 6, 2019 11:20 AM

That looks pretty darn good!!! Yes

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Posted by the Baron on Friday, September 6, 2019 11:33 AM

That came out pretty nice, Justin!  I think your colors work very well.

The pack o'smokes is pretty big, though Wink

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