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Vallejo Acrylics and Oils?

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Vallejo Acrylics and Oils?
Posted by Rocket on Monday, January 2, 2006 10:33 AM

Hi! I am painting my first figure using Vallejo paints ( 4th figure overall, so I am a newbie!). Actually, the figure is being painted with a combination oils and Vallejo acrylics. I used the Vallejo paints as the base coat with oils as the predominate color overall. I started to do the details such as belts using Vallejo paints. On some of the finer details, my coordination was not so good and I managed to either not get a perfectly straight line or I got a few spots of Vallejo paint on the oil paint coating. Can I safely touch up the small mistakes with another layer of oil paint over the Vallejo paint? In other words, I'll have a base coat of Vallejo, oil paint layer next with a Vallejo paint mistakes over that. The final layer would be to use another application of oil to touch up the mistakes. Will I have problems with paint cracking with so many layers of different paint? How do you guys correct small paint mistakes?

Thanks for any advice!

Rocket

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  • From: A Spartan in the Wolverine State
Posted by rjkplasticmod on Monday, January 2, 2006 12:39 PM

As long as the paints are cured, shouldn't be a problem.  Remember that oils take much longer to dry than acrylics.

Regards,  Rick

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    January 2006
Posted by Rocket on Monday, January 2, 2006 1:07 PM

Thanks Rick! I'll err on the side of caution and add some extra time between paint sessions. I tend to work on about 4 models at the same time, so the patience game is prety easy for me to play!

Mike

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  • From: Sunny Florida
Posted by renarts on Monday, January 2, 2006 5:07 PM

The acrylic medium of vallejo is water based, oil is oil based. Water and oil don't mix, so I bet with a damp brush you could probobly wipe your acrylic off the surface of your oil. I've never had any problem with mixing the two and it actually makes it a little easier to clean up the acrylic if you over paint the oil. Painting over oil with acrylic has always been a problem and should eb avoided if possible. The paint wil bead up. I will usually do all my base coat painting first in acrylic, then if I decide to use oils rather than acrylic, I can easily remove the over coating from the under coating if I have an accident. THe durability of acrylic makes it ideal for base coating especially if you are going to be doing a lot of blending with your oils. Just make sure you put a good undercoat on, and that it is cured before starting with your oil work.

Lately most of my figure work has been done with acrylics only. I am a big fan of vallejo.

Mike "Imagination is the dye that colors our lives" Marcus Aurellius A good friend will come and bail you out of jail...but, a true friend will be sitting next to you saying, "Damn...that was fun!"
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, January 2, 2006 8:02 PM
I always base in Vellejo now. It's perfect for oils. My oils are usually dry overnight, unless I'm using a color that has particularly high carrier content. I try to avoid that though, and since I spread the oils out, using as little as possible over as wide an area as possible, the paint dries much faster.

I have been known to scrape minor errors like those you describe with the tip of an exacto blade, but it takes a careful hand. You shouldn't have any trouble just touching up the oils over the acrylic mistakes. I do it all the time. Don't worry about cracking or anything like that, unless you're glopping the paint on in thick layers, which you shouldn't be.
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Posted by Rocket on Monday, January 2, 2006 9:22 PM

Thanks guys! Reading through all your replies gives me quite a bit more confidence in moving forward with my figure. At least I know now I will not likely screw it up! I am trying to keep all of my paint coats thin, so thickness should not be a problem.

If this keeps going, I may start doing a lot more figures as an alternative to my usual aircraft or space subjects! ;-)

Thanks again!

Rocket

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