F-14 Badges

What are the Navy rules on where patches go on flightsuits for pilots?


Thanks in advance!

Right chest - squadron (or unit if not in a squadron)
Left chest - wings/name tag
Right shoulder - usually something platform and/or squadron related, or nothing at all
Left shoulder - US Flag, or weapons school (eg Top Gun, PTI, AMCC, VTI, OTI, etc) or nothing at all.

They don't wear any of that in a combat situation do they? Something called santization? I don't know for sure, just curious.

eizzle wrote:

They don't wear any of that in a combat situation do they? Something called santization? I don't know for sure, just curious.

Correct.  In event of capture you'd prefer the enemy work for every little tidbit they get instead of being able to read it on your chest.  Of course in this day and age they're as likely to up and behead you as soon as they find you anyway...

That why I started this thread also just curious as to the regs for flightsuits in case I every build a f-14 and just to be curious. So the the platform would be the Anytime Baby badge? Did the smae rules apply for RIOS also?

Kolja94 wrote:

eizzle wrote: They don't wear any of that in a combat situation do they? Something called santization? I don't know for sure, just curious. Correct.  In event of capture you'd prefer the enemy work for every little tidbit they get instead of being able to read it on your chest.  Of course in this day and age they're as likely to up and behead you as soon as they find you anyway...

It doesn't sound like much fun either way. Just tell them some lies so they stop beating you and kill you quick would be my thought, then again, not having ever been in a situation like that, I would probably just cry and pee my pants after they hit me a couple times

Raventutor11 wrote:

That why I started this thread also just curious as to the regs for flightsuits in case I every build a f-14 and just to be curious. So the the platform would be the Anytime Baby badge? Did the smae rules apply for RIOS also?

Same rules for NFOs in all platforms.  Different wings, but you'd have to be working in a pretty big scale for THAT to be noticeable (some folks don't notice the difference in 1/1!!).

Yes, the "anytime baby" patch would be an example.  So would the triangular patch that shows a tomcat in planform - often squadrons would customize these in their own colors with the squadron nickname across the bottom of it.

Kolja94 wrote:

eizzle wrote: They don't wear any of that in a combat situation do they? Something called santization? I don't know for sure, just curious. Correct.  In event of capture you'd prefer the enemy work for every little tidbit they get instead of being able to read it on your chest.  Of course in this day and age they're as likely to up and behead you as soon as they find you anyway...

Exactly... i have a video clip of f-14 pilots and they have a badge on the chest (left side) and another on the right arm. Cant make them out though.

My nephew has a green bomber coat with f-14 badges all over it, tomcat, jolly rodgers etc, when he outgrows it i will claim it :) (for the badges)

Sasarchiver wrote:

My nephew has a green bomber coat with f-14 badges all over it, tomcat, jolly rodgers etc, when he outgrows it i will claim it :) (for the badges)

 

In the meantime, borrow it, scan the images, import them into your photo editor, trim them and save them. You can then drop them into your word processor, resize them for your figure and print them on white paper and apply them with white glue. Seal the ink first with Decal film or Decal saver from MicroScale.Using high resolution, you should be able to read the patch even in 1/35 scale.

Is there not a special paer you can buy that you can make your own decals with?

Raventutor11 wrote:

Is there not a special paer you can buy that you can make your own decals with?

You can have a professional shop make decals by using a color laser printer on decal paper which is readily available at hobby stores. I've done this when I want something to look painted on. Most decal paper is clear and pritners don't generally do white (OOP Alps was the exception) so you have to prepaint the area white or find white decal paper and do serious trimming. There is supposed to ben inkjet friendly decal paper; check the online shops. Using the method I noted above, you can use regular white paper affixed with thinned white glue. Remember, the patches we're discussing here have some substance and are velcroed onto the suit. You'd really not want it to look like it was woven into the fabric of the flight suit as a decal would.

I have a few questions yet sorry

Is the placement the same  for airforce also?
What are the other weapons schools like the ones you siad PPI,AMCC,VTI, Etc

Air Force has different rules.  I'll try my best to explain what I've observed. 
The name and wings still go on the left chest.  The left shoulder is either the USAF weapons school graduate patch or a platform-type patch (ie, "Eage Driver" etc).  The right chest is either Air Combat Command, Air Mobility Command, Air Education and Training Command, USAFE, PACAF, etc and the right shoulder is the squadron or unit.

PTI = Prowler Tactics Instructor (EA-6B Weapons School grad)
VTI = Viking Tactics Instructor (Sea Control Weapons School - ie S-3 - grad)
AMCC = Airborne Mission Commander's Course (E-2 Weapons School - ie NSAWC N-6, once upon a time known as Top Dome, or so I've been told)

White decal paper is also available for ink-jet printers, most LHS carry Testors but you can also order from Micro Mark and other sources

The American flag goes on the left shoulder (or 'To trail', meaning the stars are in front, or facing forward if on the right shoulder).
On the right shoulder goes the unit/squadron patch.
On the left above the pocket is the 2X4 leather name tag in either black ot brown leather.
(Wings on top, then name; personnal choice of initials or full name or quoted call sign if not vulgar, Rank then branch of service evenly spaced out.)
All patches are either sewn on or attached with hook fastener to a sewn pile fastener patch on the flight suit (velcro) for sanitation purposes.
If you knew a good rigger he could sew other patches on but don't be caught with them on at inspection!

Don