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101st in Iraq UPDATE
Posted by Avus on Tuesday, February 21, 2006 2:36 AM

So here are some "work in progress" pics of my Verlinden figure in 120mm.

First an overview of the model:

The completed M4 SOpMod with hand:

Finally the bust; the ammo pouches are not completed yet:

Comments, constructive criticism and suggestions are as always welcome

Klaus

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Posted by HeavyArty on Tuesday, February 21, 2006 9:27 AM
Looking good so far.  The M4 looks really nice.  Good job.

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Posted by gburdon on Tuesday, February 21, 2006 9:31 PM

What's not to like about that so far? Great build. The face is spot on!!! I am sure you will be treating the vest etc. with weathering as you go along so I am not even going to suggest anything. Fantastic. Post more as the build progresses.

Cheers;

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Posted by Avus on Wednesday, February 22, 2006 1:49 AM

Thanks guys!Bow [bow]

Chatting with intruder_bass he noted that the vest is indeed a little too bright. So I'll give it a light wash of  black to make it a little duller, once the pouches are done. And then weather it with a dry brush of various sand shades.

Hope to post more pics next monday.

 

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, February 22, 2006 6:54 PM
Very nice so far. The gun to me should have some parts that are shinny black such as the barrel and other parts really flat - just a thought.
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Posted by m1garand on Thursday, February 23, 2006 12:04 AM

Avus,

Really nice job. M4 with Aimpoint M2 looks like real thing. 

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Posted by Avus on Thursday, February 23, 2006 2:03 AM

Interesting point, The Mage.
What I did is paint the barrel and the body of the M4 with Humrol polished steel, washed it with acrylic black and then rubbed off the excess to make the metal reappear.
Do you think painting it in gloss black would have been more realistic?

Questions to all:
This figure comes with a M-17 gas mask bag on the thigh.

  • Is this equipment still issued or deployed?
  • Can someone tell me what the writing on these kind of pouches are? I'd like to make a decal to place on it.

Thanks again to all.

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Posted by m1garand on Thursday, February 23, 2006 6:49 AM
 Avus wrote:

Interesting point, The Mage.
What I did is paint the barrel and the body of the M4 with Humrol polished steel, washed it with acrylic black and then rubbed off the excess to make the metal reappear.
Do you think painting it in gloss black would have been more realistic?

 

Avus,

I personally used M4/M16 in the service, but they are not as shinny due to the fact that it has been used in the field. In fact, they are more like flat gray. I also personally own CAR15, which is a civilian version of M4 and it is in flat color, so I think your rifle looks just fine to me.  I can send you pictures of my rifle if you want to use it as a reference.

Questions to all:
This figure comes with a M-17 gas mask bag on the thigh.

  • Is this equipment still issued or deployed?  Yes, I've seen it still being used by local Reserve and National Guard units.
  • Can someone tell me what the writing on these kind of pouches are? I'd like to make a decal to place on it.

It has US and then Chemical Corp Insignia on it, and then it printed "MASK, PROTECTIVE FIELD" and under it "M17" Take a look at the link I've attached.  It has a pretty good visible marking of the bag.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Qty-3-US-Army-M17-Gas-Mask-Carrying-Bag-Paint-Ball-Ammo_W0QQitemZ7221054492QQcategoryZ64672QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Thanks again to all.

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Posted by DURR on Thursday, February 23, 2006 8:16 AM
looks like he is almost ready for actionThumbs Up [tup]
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Posted by HeavyArty on Thursday, February 23, 2006 9:49 AM

M17 Mask hasn't been used since the mid-'90s, ODS Era.  Current Mask is the M40 mask and it has a larger, more square carrier.  Looks like below.

Mask:

Carrier:

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Posted by Avus on Friday, February 24, 2006 2:30 AM

That's good news m1garand. I would have hated to paint the rifle again!

HeavyArty and m1garand thanks for the info on the gas mask bag. I'll have to check the one of the model to see if it's an M17 or an M40 bag. In case I'll have to make some minor modifications.

Thanks.

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Posted by Avus on Monday, February 27, 2006 2:27 AM

Here's my progress. I completed the vest and the canteens (can be seen in background).

I followed the suggestions I got and washed & drybrushed the vest, to blend the colors.

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, February 27, 2006 3:52 AM

Are you going for the initial deployment of the 101st Airborne in OIF?  If not I don't think they wore pro masks during operations on their 2d tour since the threat of NBC was nil. When I was in OEF our pro masks ended up on the bottom of our dufflebags in the connex.

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Posted by whiskey on Monday, February 27, 2006 4:18 PM
As far as I know units were not required to wear thier promasks on a daily basis but there were/are many soldiers that wear them anyway so I dont think it really matters.
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, February 28, 2006 2:13 AM

Heck as soon as we ditched ours it was "hasta la vista." Few joes are gonna strap that thing on if they dont have ta!

 

Just trying help alleviate additional headaches for the good modeler!

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Posted by Avus on Tuesday, February 28, 2006 5:06 AM
Thanks for the headsup guys, but I think I'll stick the bag on the figure.
BTW looks like an M-40 bag and not an M-17; lucky me!

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, February 28, 2006 5:12 AM
Its not like it will detract from the finished product. A good albi would be their Supply SGT sux.
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Posted by Avus on Tuesday, February 28, 2006 5:23 AM

 LPT319 wrote:
Its not like it will detract from the finished product. A good albi would be their Supply SGT sux.

ROTFL!Laugh [(-D]

I'll add this to the tag on the base!

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Posted by psstoff995 on Monday, May 22, 2006 7:27 PM

wow that's really looking great so far, i did the same one not too long ago, and i'm not even sure if this is accurate, but i added in a led foil strap, and a little copper wire sinch kinda clip, here a few pictures if you were interested, again, i dont know if that's actually how the pack is put together, but i figured a soldier wouldnt want that gas mask smaking up and down and swinging around, plus even if its not a standard strap, im pretty sure the spec ops guys add on all kinds of extra pockets and straps and things anyway, so this might just be my invention. but sorry, i got side tracked, i really like how your kevlar vest turned out, im jealous haha

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Posted by m1garand on Monday, May 22, 2006 11:05 PM

Psst,

Your figure looks really good.  Especially your paint job on aimpoint lense. 

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Posted by Avus on Tuesday, May 23, 2006 2:22 AM

Thanks psstoff995. Yours looks good, too. Sadly the pictures are a little blurry.

The idea of strapping down the bag is not bad at all. I might consider doing it, too.

One thing: what are the canteens and smoke grenades attached to? I have this problem, too.
I mean the figure doesn't wear an Alice belt (or similar) underneath the vest. The only place to attach things on this soldier are the loops on the vest.
So were the heck am I supposed to attach all the equipment this figure comes with?

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Posted by m1garand on Tuesday, May 23, 2006 7:34 AM
With point blank interceptor body armor, usually not wearing alice gear or web-belt with it.  So your best bet is to attach those smoke grenade to one of the MOLLE loops on the vest.  Also, modern troopers now use Camel back hydration system on their back (and Interceptor vests are compatible with it) rather than carrying canteens.  I've seen our troops wearing two canteens and those were attached to back of the vest, which those were placed right behind kidneys.  Occasionally, you will see soldiers wearing interceptor vest with ALICE or LBVs, but that is very rare (mostly done by National Guards and Reservists at the beginning of the war due to shortage of gear for MOLLE stuff).  Also, there are pouches made for MOLLE system to carry grenades and smoke grenades as well.
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Posted by psstoff995 on Tuesday, May 23, 2006 2:32 PM
 Avus wrote:

One thing: what are the canteens and smoke grenades attached to? I have this problem, too.
I mean the figure doesn't wear an Alice belt (or similar) underneath the vest. The only place to attach things on this soldier are the loops on the vest.
So were the heck am I supposed to attach all the equipment this figure comes with?

yeah i know what you mean, for the smoke grenades, i just kinda shoved them up under his right arm, and if you view it head on its harder to notice that they're just floating there. the back left canteen i used to cover up the end of the gas mask strap, because if i remember correctly i think it did something funny or something didnt quite match with the legs and the torso. but if you could drill out the little loops somehow you could probably slide the grenade handles through there, and he does have a camel back, so he probably wouldn't need the canteens unless he was ooon a reeeal longrang patrol or something, so if youd be ok with just leaving them off im sure that would work too. my problem was i didnt feel like parting with the pieces, because i really didnt have any other use for 1/16 scale greanades or anything, figured i might as well tuck them in there. what did you make your water straw/tube thing out of? mine was just copper wire but yours looks to have turned out much nicer

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Posted by Avus on Wednesday, May 24, 2006 2:14 AM

 m1garand wrote:
Also, modern troopers now use Camel back hydration system on their back (and Interceptor vests are compatible with it) rather than carrying canteens.  I've seen our troops wearing two canteens and those were attached to back of the vest.

 psstoff995 wrote:
he does have a camel back, so he probably wouldn't need the canteens unless he was ooon a reeeal longrang patrol or something, so if youd be ok with just leaving them off im sure that would work too

Thanks for the hint, guys. I was thinking to leave them out or to find some loops on the vest (most likely on the back) to attach the canteens.

 psstoff995 wrote:
what did you make your water straw/tube thing out of? mine was just copper wire but yours looks to have turned out much nicer

I used the rubber hose (well actually it isn't a hose because it hasn't got a hole) that came with the figure. BTW I noticed it looks like a copper wire only because you said so, guess if you don't go around telling people no one will notice. Big Smile [:D]

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Posted by m1garand on Wednesday, May 24, 2006 7:05 AM
I should take some pictures of my interceptor vest and how it is set up. 
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Posted by psstoff995 on Wednesday, May 24, 2006 2:03 PM
 Avus wrote:

I used the rubber hose (well actually it isn't a hose because it hasn't got a hole) that came with the figure. BTW I noticed it looks like a copper wire only because you said so, guess if you don't go around telling people no one will notice. Big Smile [:D]

really? haha cause i thought my figure should have come with something like that, but it didnt come with any kind of vinal hose or anything. i also have a 1/16 scale spc. ops. guy from verlindin, he looks like he's holding a GPS thing, and he's yelling and pointing, he also did not come with a vinal hose for his camel back, so i had assumed it just didnt come with one. his M4 was haning around his neck, but they didnt include anything for that, so it looks like another lead foil/coper wire project for me Big Smile [:D] oh and sorry about the blurriness of the photos, the lighting was bad and it gave me a real shallow depth of field, if u need any more referance style photos, let me know the angles and ill try to get some better lighting. good luck!

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Posted by Avus on Thursday, May 25, 2006 7:54 AM

 m1garand wrote:
I should take some pictures of my interceptor vest and how it is set up. 

Now that would be a great idea! Thanks.

 psstoff995 wrote:
oh and sorry about the blurriness of the photos, the lighting was bad and it gave me a real shallow depth of field, if u need any more referance style photos, let me know the angles and ill try to get some better lighting.

Never mind. It's just to have a better idea of your great work.

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, May 25, 2006 8:15 PM
What's your color reference on the body armor Avus? I'm just curious about the ERDL pattern you painted (which looks great BTW), as opposed to the standard woodland pattern. I'm not up on US uniforms past post Gulf War, so I'm prepared to believe you if you tell me you have reference pics 8^), but that's the only thing that stood out for me. Otherwise, it's a very nicely done figure.

Are the new, T marked hand gaurds made of an alloy of some sort? I only ask because otherwise, it would be plastic, and should be flat black, and not weathered with metalics. But if they are, than it looks great. I imagine it might have to be an alloy though, eh? In order to be strong enough to hold accessories like a pistol grip.

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Posted by Avus on Friday, May 26, 2006 1:34 AM

 plymonkey wrote:
What's your color reference on the body armor Avus?

My reference is a BDU from the 90's and an M65 Jacket from the same period I have in my wardrobe. There are some color differences between the two items. The BDU has some sort of green shade to it (like the vest I made on my figure) so the light color doesn't look like yellow but more like sage green. The M-65's yellow looks like German panzer yellow (WW2).

 plymonkey wrote:
Are the new, T marked hand gaurds made of an alloy of some sort?

As far as I know they are made of plastic, thus I weathered it with grey and not metal. Maybe it doesn't look like that on the picture but I guarantee that's what I did.

Thanks for your observations, keep them coming.

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, May 26, 2006 8:09 PM
Ah, that sounds like the Vietnam era ERDL pattern to me. That's cool. It looks really nice regardless.

 I'll take your word for it on the grip. I know that digital cameras can be a harsh mistress for models sometimes. Smile [:)]

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