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1:35 Cartidges and casings

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GRS
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1:35 Cartidges and casings
Posted by GRS on Wednesday, May 30, 2007 3:26 PM

Hi

An action diorama doesnt look right if there isn't brass in abundance! How or where can I get 1:35 scale .223, .30 or 7.92 cartidges and casings?

Thanks

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  • From: Burlington, Ontario Canada
Posted by gburdon on Wednesday, May 30, 2007 3:41 PM

There are a couple kits of casings and rounds. But they are pricey. The cheaper and easier way is to stretch sprue and paint it a brass colour and snip the sizes you require for spent casings. Or use thin brass wire and skip the painting altogether.

Cheers;

Gregory

 

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  • From: Formerly Bryan, now Arlington, Texas
Posted by CapnMac82 on Wednesday, May 30, 2007 6:27 PM

gburdon probably hits it best--brass wire is likely your best bet. 

After all, that 5.56x45mm case is 45mm long, and 9.5mm at the rim--in 1/35 that's 0.38mm diameter and 1.28mm long (that neck& shoulder would be about 6.8x11mm or a whopping 0.19 x 0.31mm or so).  Using 1/64 or 10/thousandths wire snipped 0.05 long would likely be far easier.

I suppose a person with some patience could pincushion up a bit of blutak or the like and dip the brass wire in a bit of BlakenIt and give a sooty look that might "disguise" the lack of neck/shoulder on the empties . . .

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, May 30, 2007 8:37 PM
Along the same lines, I've wondered if there is any use for various .22 brass in Scale (short, long, long rifle, mag). Seems as if they could be used as a spent mortar round or other.
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  • From: Formerly Bryan, now Arlington, Texas
Posted by CapnMac82 on Friday, June 1, 2007 5:25 PM

 Preston wrote:
I've wondered if there is any use for various .22 brass in Scale (short, long, long rifle, mag). Seems as if they could be used as a spent mortar round or other.

Might, the tricky part is the rim, which is not rebated the way "cased" ammunition for artillery often is.  That rim is 6.8mm, at 1:35 that's 238mm in scale, around 9-1/3".  The "hole" in the end is pretty big in scale, too, 5.68mm scaling up to 199mm, about 7-7/8".  Most arty stops using a case around 155mm/6" bore size just for the sake of the redlegs who'd have to tote the charges around.

Since I looked it up, here's the case lengths:  .22cap is 7.2mm or 252mm; .22short is 10.7mm or 267mm; .22long & .22LR are 15mm or 525mm (20 5/8"); .22WMR is 24mm or 840mm, that's 33" in scale.  That's 1:35; other scales will differ.

Tiny nitpick:  Mortars do not have a "spent" case.  The "case," such as it is, is in the tail of the mortar "bomb."  It's surprisingly similar to a shotgun shell.  It rides along with the bomb out the end of the tube.  Mortar rounds (usually) have additional charges draped or wrapped around the tail boom.  These can be stripped off in increments to decrease the range the round fires as required.  Modern military mortar is the most complicated simple thing to lug around at times.  (Though the ornate early WWII german 50&60mm are near-ultimate in "gussied up".)

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, June 1, 2007 9:36 PM

 CapnMac82 wrote:
Tiny nitpick:

Cap'n. I like the way you think. You do the math and I'll supply the cigars.Eight Ball [8]

I just hate to see all of this brass go to waste. It looks so... real. Thumbs Up [tup]

 

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  • From: Baton Rouge, Snake Central
Posted by PatlaborUnit1 on Saturday, June 2, 2007 6:46 PM

Actually I Plan on using exactly this for spent Zaku 280MM Machine gun rounds for the newly released UC Hardgraph kits (Mecha stuff folks, take a breath, it'll be OK......).

They are rather plain and look perfect for the casings I want.  Far better than the kit provided pieces....

David

 

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  • From: Formerly Bryan, now Arlington, Texas
Posted by CapnMac82 on Monday, June 4, 2007 5:08 PM

 Preston wrote:
You do the math and I'll supply the cigars.Eight Ball [8]

Partagas Nr 1 or the Sabroso in Maduro <g>  (I've a single malt or decent port to go with arounf here somm're . . . )

I just hate to see all of this brass go to waste. It looks so... real.

No lie.  And the scrap metal man generally won't take it, either.  I used to know some folk with reloading machines, so, if I brought raw materials, I could make runs on their gear (or swap once-fired brass for such items as might be around for trade).  Used to be, at least.

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