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First ever paper model...wow! kind of a shock.

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First ever paper model...wow! kind of a shock.
Posted by philo426 on Monday, June 20, 2016 2:19 PM

I purchased a Handley Page Hamden from the bay.Instructions are in Polish but I can kind of see how to build it from   the  diagrams.I found that the cardboard formers had to be replaced with 1/16"basswood.I used a wooden dowel to form the cut out forward fuselage.I do think I will have to fix some errors that I made.I do find it an interesting new challenge and even if this one does not turn out great,I plan to buy more cardstock kits until I become proficient in this form of modeling.

 

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Posted by philo426 on Monday, June 20, 2016 7:58 PM

I am using Ross School glue and it seens to bond quite well.The butt joined fuselage is causing fairly serious alignment problems.

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Posted by philo426 on Monday, June 20, 2016 11:48 PM

Progressing kind of rough but  I hope it will come out ok.Way out of my comfort zone but sometimes you just have to try something new!   

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  • From: Poland
Posted by Pawel on Tuesday, June 21, 2016 11:55 AM

Hello Phil!

What make is that model? Maly Modelarz or Fly Model? I sure would love to help you with the translation from Polish if you need any. Those bulkheads and so on are usually reinforced with thick, consistent cardboard - ideally it should be about 1mm thick. If you sand the edges of such bulkhead or spar a little with sanding paper (about 120 is best), then you'll get some extra glueing surface. Where two segments join on a double bulkhead, you should hold the two bulkheads together and sand them together to ensure they have exactly the same shape. Then you put one bulkhead in one segment, second bulkhead in second segment, and when you join them you get a nice, smooth hull.

Good luck with your build and have a nice day

Paweł

All comments and critique welcomed. Thanks for your honest opinions!

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Posted by philo426 on Tuesday, June 21, 2016 12:44 PM

Thanks!It is Modelarz.Going fairly well so far and the lessons learned will help in future card models.I will tap you for advice should the need arise.

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Posted by philo426 on Tuesday, June 21, 2016 5:43 PM

Mounted up the aft fuselage ,horizontal and twin vertical stabs.I will add winglets to the vertical stabs later.  

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Posted by philo426 on Tuesday, June 21, 2016 11:58 PM

Getting the wing structure together.Very reminisent of the old stick and tissue kits.  

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  • From: Twin Cities of Minnesota
Posted by Don Stauffer on Wednesday, June 22, 2016 8:41 AM

Guillows, an old time- though still producing, under new mgmt- has a number of kits of all metal aircraft, though kits are still tissue covered.  I have covered some of those with card stock to better look like metal skin, so those are definitely a merge between stick and tissue and card stock models.  Even back in fifties, Monogram had a contest(s) for builds of their Speedi-bilt kits through local hobby shop.  Built their P-40 with bond paper replacing tissue.  Won 2nd place at our LHS- best friend won 1st with Spad and normal tissue covering.

 

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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Posted by philo426 on Wednesday, June 22, 2016 1:25 PM

Cool Don, you renember the good old days before the country got messed up!

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Posted by philo426 on Saturday, June 25, 2016 1:37 AM

I got the inner wings on.Starting to look like an aircraft anyway!  

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Posted by 7474 on Saturday, June 25, 2016 12:08 PM

Nice work, but please don't turn modeling into a political debate. Looking forward to more of your progress

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Posted by goldhammer on Saturday, June 25, 2016 2:39 PM

Looks nice, especially being a new media for you. 

Have a P-40 and a Mustang in cardstock form from Paper Models International.  Looked over the P-40, and put it back in a zip-lock bag till I get the nerve to try it.  Saving the Mustang til I see how the 40 comes out.

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Posted by philo426 on Saturday, June 25, 2016 9:44 PM

Yeah it sure is a different modeling expirence,the decision to use basswood to replace the cardboard structural parts was very wise,the cardstock is heavy enough to support the wood just fine.

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Posted by philo426 on Sunday, June 26, 2016 1:30 AM

Getting the cowling structure together.  

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  • From: Poland
Posted by Pawel on Sunday, June 26, 2016 7:49 AM

Hello!

Lookin' good - definitely better than my first paper model did. Funny thing, it was a very similar project - also a Maly Modelarz, a Bristol Beaufighter, designed by the same author that designed your model.

If you'd like to take a look, I found this link for you:

http://www.konradus.com/forum/read.php?f=1&i=264358&t=264358&filtr=&page=1

http://www.konradus.com/forum/read.php?f=1&i=264358&t=264358&filtr=&page=5

Good luck with your build and have a nice day

Paweł

All comments and critique welcomed. Thanks for your honest opinions!

www.vietnam.net.pl

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Posted by philo426 on Sunday, June 26, 2016 9:16 AM

Thanks for the links!very interesting!that guy did a lot better job than I am doing but I hope to make more paper models and improve my skills.

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  • From: Willamette Valley, Oregon
Posted by goldhammer on Sunday, June 26, 2016 10:46 AM

There is a 1/72 U-boat on the bay right now for $8.00  Looks like a type XXVII.  Been thinking about it, just for the practice.

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Posted by philo426 on Sunday, June 26, 2016 11:16 AM

I think that several ship kits exist of this tyoe.Including the Bismark,Tirpitz and Titanic.

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  • From: Twin Cities of Minnesota
Posted by Don Stauffer on Sunday, June 26, 2016 11:46 AM

Some of the card stock ships are just fantastic.  I was beat out of a first place award at one show by a card stock cruiser. It was so fantastic a lot of folks just could not believe it was a paper model and had to thoroughly re-examine it. It did have a lot of thread rigging, but all the rest was card.

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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Posted by playtime222 on Sunday, June 26, 2016 2:52 PM
A trick for fast translation of foreign language documents - scan it or drop a good pic of it into MS OneNote (comes with Office) - right click - Save Text to Clipboard - paste into Google translate. The OCR of the Save Text function sometimes needs a bit of tweaking but I use it regularly.
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Posted by philo426 on Sunday, June 26, 2016 8:16 PM

Thanks for the tip on translation!Man this thing has a long wingspan!    

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Posted by philo426 on Monday, June 27, 2016 5:11 PM

OK!I got the cowlings and exhaust collector rings assembled.Good thing I cut the cowling flaps as they barely fit.   

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Posted by philo426 on Wednesday, June 29, 2016 6:11 AM

I got the support structure for the canopy cut out and installed.  

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Posted by artworks2 on Wednesday, June 29, 2016 8:12 AM

Do some more photos thats a cool facet in the modeling way.

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Posted by philo426 on Thursday, June 30, 2016 12:07 AM

Added some of the canopy parts.The kit provides additional paper strips to frame it.Those will be added a bit later.   

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Posted by philo426 on Friday, July 01, 2016 12:47 AM

More canopy work!  

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Posted by philo426 on Friday, July 01, 2016 11:35 PM

Test fitting the props from an old revell Bristol beaufighter I had in my stash.Proportions seem about right.    

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Posted by philo426 on Sunday, July 03, 2016 12:36 AM

Mounted up the landing gear.  

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Posted by philo426 on Sunday, July 03, 2016 10:30 PM

The kit does not include engine cylinder detail so I tried to scan the plastic engine with my printer.Definitely low rez,but better than the nothing the kit gives you.  

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  • From: Poland
Posted by Pawel on Monday, July 04, 2016 3:44 PM

Hello!

I see you also used plastic landing gear, didn't you? Nice idea, the one with the engines too, nice quick catch. More modern paper models let you do it all out of paper:

You can see the build here:

http://www.kartonwork.pl/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6131

Same for the landing gear:

And the link:

http://www.konradus.com/forum/read.php?f=1&i=214085&t=191507&page=13

Good luck with your build - it's almost done! Thanks for sharing and have a nice day

Paweł

All comments and critique welcomed. Thanks for your honest opinions!

www.vietnam.net.pl

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