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Modelkarz FW189
Posted by philo426 on Wednesday, June 27, 2018 1:11 AM

This one will be even more of a challenge then the Hapden I made!    

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Posted by philo426 on Wednesday, June 27, 2018 1:14 AM

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Posted by philo426 on Wednesday, June 27, 2018 1:16 AM

Given my experience when building the Hampden,each structural piece will be backed with 1/16" basswood.    

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  • From: USA
Posted by keavdog on Wednesday, June 27, 2018 1:20 AM

Subscribed.  Never seen a paper kit built.  Looking forward to this.

Thanks,

John

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  • From: Poland
Posted by Pawel on Wednesday, June 27, 2018 2:24 PM

Hello!

What do you know - a Maly Modelarz paper model! First one of the Maly Modelarz appeared in Poland in 1956, and they are operating since then. It is this publication that helped turn Poland into a paper model superpower!

Reinforcing the bulkheads is important, but you don't really need basswood - heavy cardboard, not too soft and about 1mm thick would do. The trick is to cut everything out right - you usually can't use scissors in all of the tight corners, that's where you are supposed to use a sharp knife, the one with break-away segments. About 50% of the modellers who build paper models do it using white glue, the one formulated for bookbinders works best. It's the one that dries transparent and is slightly rubbery when dry. CA is also handy for soaking parts in to make them stiff. And a good sanding block is also handy to make the bulkheads fit into the fuselage segments and to make nice, smooth wings. If you need any help, please let me know and for now good luck with your build and have a nice day

Paweł

All comments and critique welcomed. Thanks for your honest opinions!

www.vietnam.net.pl

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Posted by philo426 on Wednesday, June 27, 2018 5:41 PM

Thanks!I made the Modelkarz Hampden and I messed it up a little becauee I never made a paper model before and did not realize the cardboard parts needed reinforcement,still I do like it!

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  • From: New Braunfels , Texas
Posted by Tanker - Builder on Wednesday, June 27, 2018 5:58 PM

Philo 426 ;

 Still working on the Edmund Fitzgerald .I am adding P.E. !

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Posted by philo426 on Wednesday, June 27, 2018 6:14 PM

Post some pics!PE for the railing?

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Posted by philo426 on Wednesday, June 27, 2018 9:08 PM

From the same company. my first papermodel.   

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Posted by Tanker - Builder on Friday, June 29, 2018 7:31 AM

Yeah !

 You know I have a problem with photos though . For the rails and ladders , Mast and Life boat Davits . 

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Posted by Tanker - Builder on Friday, June 29, 2018 7:35 AM

Hey !

 Did you know you can make the interiors and clear areas on the canopies too ? I tried it with a P-40 some years back , For a friend . He got the resin interior from one of the aftermarket companies and I showed him how to do the canopy .

 Blister Pack ! You cut it to shape . Get it soft in boiling water and form it .Then glue the paper frames over it and cut the edges to fit 

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Posted by philo426 on Friday, June 29, 2018 8:07 AM

Well this one has a rather complex expanse of plexiglass.Unless someone makes a 1/32 Canopy set for this aircraft.

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  • From: Twin Cities of Minnesota
Posted by Don Stauffer on Friday, June 29, 2018 8:40 AM

Just wondering.  For those aircraft with huge greenhouses, could you use a scanner to copy the greenhouse areas onto those viewgraph foil sheets?  These are blank transparent plastic sheets coated to allow printing in an inkjet printer.  I know the mechanical properties of those foils is different than paper, and though it might take more effort, it might be a solution.  Of course, then you'd have to make some scratchbuilt interior details also.

 

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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Posted by philo426 on Friday, June 29, 2018 10:27 AM

Yes that might be an area worth exploring.

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Posted by philo426 on Saturday, June 30, 2018 6:17 AM

Struggling a bit ,as the instructions are minimal at best.I will have to try to figure out which parts comprise the main fuselage pod.Not obvious and I might have to make copies of the parts sheets to try to piece it together.

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  • From: Poland
Posted by Pawel on Saturday, June 30, 2018 8:27 AM

Hello Philo,

as I have the same model, too, I'll try to help you. You're right, the drawings arent best in case of this one, but the text makes up for it - which is of little use for you when you don't speak Polish. Anyhow, on page 6 there is "opis budowy" - building instructions. There it says taht the fuselage (kadlub) is made up of the parts 1,2,3,4,5 and 6. It also says there that you should decide up front if you want to build the cabin interior. Also worth mentioning is the part that you should hold the corresponding bulkheads together and sand them together to make sure they are exactly the same shape before installing them. Note that every bulkhead has a little line mark on top and on the bottom - you should always align the bulkheads by those marks. The place where the fuselage segment is glued together - the seam - usually aligns with one of the marks on the bulkhead. Otherwise there is a similar mark on the fuselage segment.

If you have other questions please write me and I'll try to help. Good luck with your build and have a nice day

Paweł

All comments and critique welcomed. Thanks for your honest opinions!

www.vietnam.net.pl

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Posted by philo426 on Saturday, June 30, 2018 11:49 AM

Thanks for the info!Even for expierenced builders,the lack of assembly drawings is perplexing.You have to guess what the designer was thinking when he produced this kit.Still,it really brings you out of your modeling comfort zone!

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Posted by philo426 on Sunday, July 01, 2018 8:41 AM

After much thought,careful study of the parts sheets and much internal debate I think I have found a way forward.The only way I can see to build the center fuselage pod is to attach the canopy sections to the bulkheads.Goes against my modeling instincts but I can see no other way to do it.Not sure it will work but we shall see!

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Posted by philo426 on Sunday, July 01, 2018 8:44 AM

Maybe I should stick to something like thus LOL!Tongue TiedTongue Tied.    

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Posted by philo426 on Sunday, July 01, 2018 2:27 PM

  

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  • From: Poland
Posted by Pawel on Sunday, July 01, 2018 4:15 PM

Hello!

Philo - So are you doing the cabin interior or not?

Don - your idea is sound, it was standard practice in Maly Modelarz models, that had an option of equiped cabin (those were appearing from the end of the eighties) to cut out the windows and underlay a part made of stiff foil. Most of the cabins are better served with a vacuum-formed part, and a company called Gomix sells such transparent parts for most paper models that have an equipped cabin. Like here's one for the Focke-Wulf Philo is building. Would cost you whopping 3$.

https://www.flymodel.pl/akcesoria-modelarskie/328-oszklenie-kabiny-pcv-focke-wulf-fw-189.html

Philo - Good luck with your build and have a nice day

Paweł

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www.vietnam.net.pl

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Posted by philo426 on Sunday, July 01, 2018 4:21 PM

Nope  this will probably be my last Modelktz paper model for the foreseeable future.I will try one of the German makers,such as Reimars.Hopefully they have decent instructionsl

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  • From: Poland
Posted by Pawel on Sunday, July 01, 2018 5:09 PM

Hello!

Please note it's "Modelarz" - a modelmaker in Polish. Those German kits have better instructions for sure if you speak German. As for English - it's worth chcecking out before you buy. For translations either from Polish or from German - I'd be happy to help. Have a nice day

Paweł

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www.vietnam.net.pl

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  • From: New Braunfels , Texas
Posted by Tanker - Builder on Monday, July 02, 2018 10:03 AM

Hi Pawel !

Her's one for you . Got this on the Bay from Mrs.Chu In Guangdong , China ! $ 10.00 free shipping !

JSC CaT .#96 MIKROFLOTA plywajaca przetwornia ropy naftowej . PETROJARL CIDADE DE RIO DAS OTRAS .  I would send you the cover photo if I knew how and I still can't get it right !

  She's 1/400 and atypical of that company's kits .The nice part of them ? The diagrammatic instructions . Numbered steps . Sometimes hard to follow BUT , Anyone can do it if they take their time .

 I like this company Because , they do the diagrammatic instructions . I have five  of their ships done , and hope to get more .T.B.-G.J.Geracci 

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  • From: Poland
Posted by Pawel on Monday, July 02, 2018 10:54 AM

Hello T.B.!

I have found it anyhow:

Cool, I haven't seen it in the shops here in Poland - but that's probably also because I don't look up ships as throughly as I do tanks and aircraft. Should you need any help with translation from Polish (you probably don't need help with translation from German, or do you?) please be sure to write me.

Have a nice day,

Paweł

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Posted by philo426 on Monday, July 02, 2018 11:11 AM

They also make a paper model of the Edmund Fitzgerald! Anyhow,progress continues.I am committed now!   

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  • From: Poland
Posted by Pawel on Monday, July 02, 2018 3:04 PM

Philo, I regret having to tell you, that you didn't fit the part 1 right. It should point downwards, and it's rear edge should be aligned with the front edge of part 2. And those edges should be glued along the bulkhead, too. Those babies are usually built this way that part 1 is glued on bulkhead W1, part 2 is glued to the bulkheads W2 in front and W2a on the rear, part 3 to the bulkheads W3 and W3a and so on. You usually build segments first, and then when they are done you join the segments together. I hope it helps you - good luck with your build and have a nice day

Paweł

All comments and critique welcomed. Thanks for your honest opinions!

www.vietnam.net.pl

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Posted by philo426 on Monday, July 02, 2018 4:12 PM

Ok I will just have to modify it.I am not ripping it apart! More structure!  

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Posted by philo426 on Monday, July 02, 2018 4:25 PM

Pawel,can you post pics of your completed FW189?

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  • From: Poland
Posted by Pawel on Monday, July 02, 2018 5:09 PM

Philo, I don't have one - I'm just reading the instructions and I'm also using my experience building those paper models. But try looking more at the drawings, or look up the net - the pictures are there!

Like this baby from a Russian site:

Good luck with your build and have a nice day

Paweł

All comments and critique welcomed. Thanks for your honest opinions!

www.vietnam.net.pl

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