Junk Build 4 A Walker WIP

Awesome. I love your stuff. More please.

love that digital!!

I have seen lots of things done digital...it all looks good to me! and you can go nuts with color too...

it doesnt have the SW feel too it, more MaK feel. 

How did you make the knees? What are they made of? I will stat my own walker from scratch as well.....

Hoyhoy`al
Heres where I`s at now,
Shoulder pads on, inner hubcaps to inner knees, mudflaps to back of knees (1st kitparts), Extra strengthening bitz to upper legs, a chin gun of sorts (lego part), and small thruster jump jets to lower body (2nd Kit parts)









Under the chin gun, the box will be a infra red light ( or silver, Tamiya clear red and Future in laymans terms)
Heres the push moulds for the feet, work needed to get temprature right.



And this is just for you Mossie



I wasn`t going to show this open until it was finished, but obviously I can`t hide much from you lot of eagle eyed buggers

Kit parts used so far are:-

two seat backs from Dragon 1:48 Me262 kits - armour back of knee.

Two wing guns  that are I think from Heller 1:72 Ar 196 - belly jump jets.

All comments and suggestions read, sometimes with amusement and sometimes even taken heed of.
Cheers 
G

Cool, looks great. the way your main body is standing with the open cockpit is just brilliant.

Terry.

 

Just an idea, but you should throw in some missile boxes on the shoulders.

 Looks good so far.

guardsmen22 wrote:

Just an idea, but you should throw in some missile boxes on the shoulders.  Looks good so far.

Seen to many mechs with that, thinking this ones more a scout type.

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Hoyhoy`al,

been working on the cockpit,










Last pic shows what you see when its done. Suddenly found out that I can`t paint round corners, hence the vid` screen's need a lot of tidying up. Didn`t want to do a lot of wiring and CBA`d to make a consol for the front, so I cheated and put the back of the dash behind a closed water/weather proof cover like on a Me109. this also needs working as it is too hard looking and looks like a scale model of a railway layout before flocking. But o`all reasonably amused but the results so far.



This picture I know is very blurry but I hope it conveys my idea of steering being on a rod which folds out of the way when getting in and out of the pit.
 
Oh well all comments and suggestions etc
Cheers
G

Hoyhoy`al



LOOK MA  NO HANDS!











Well the feet are on and it actually stands alone without a prop. While searching for something else I found a box of control rods etc for radio control and decided to use these for the arms that I had always intended to add but was unsure how to fabricate. Hands should be an  interesting build job. Last pic is a better shot of the controls that fold away in the cockpit.
Still lots to build especially as I just dropped it and have to rebuild some. Enjoy.
All comments etc etc,
Cheers 
Gary

Hoyhoy`al

Anywat on with the show. As I said in the last blurb I dropped it. Nothing serious just a leg fell of, but all in one piece, easily fixed. Trouble is I was a bit bored with this build, it was going together OK but it didn`t really feel like I was being pushed in any way. It just might have been any TV cartoon robot outta the box with no effort required. Sooooooooooo as I had a leg in one hand and the rest in the other I decided to change things a bit. Would it be possible to show a wounded walking robot? I put the leg back on with a sorta twist innit and a pronounced limp. (L.I.M.P pronounced limp) Battle damaged the shoulder armour a bit with a ricochet scar on the hood, invented some sort of uber super cannon from a bit that woke this morning being perfectly happy as a MK103 and here it is so far. The hands are just bluetac`d on and the arms are gonna have to be reworked to match this new pose but I think I`m gonna like this a lot better with this new twist. Anyway here's where it is.














I know people are looking at this so hows about some feedback and let me know what you think, any suggestions on how to improve it?
Cheers 
G

I kind of like the thought that the "uber super cannon" might have been what caused the "injury", and was wrenched off, and used to batter the attacker into submission. I also like the idea that this has "evolved" as you build it, as "it experiences the fortunes of war". I think I'm a little too new to this game to be offering suggestions, other than, let the "story" tell itself, and guide the details.

Hi There Sumpter,

Your NEVER to new at any game to offer a suggestion. People who arn`t as knowledgeable about a subject often come up with the best ideas as they arn`t as tied down with the dogma that the so called experts consider as set in stone. Some of my best ideas have come from people who were just passing through..

As I always try to remember to type that ALL COMMENTS are welcome, even the medically impossible. (tho` some are fun trying

Feedback on a model are why I post em. It`s amazing sometimes how peoples conceptions and reactions differ from mine.

So Comment away all freely and say what you think. I`m quite thick. (skinned that is)

Cheers Gary

Well,  Hydraulic lines for one. The closeup of the foot is "plain", some hydraulic lines might help. The "cannon" in the left hand, perhaps used more like a "cane"? If my hip had been bashed like that one , I'd definitely be using a cane, or crutch. I do like the method you used for the fingers. Are they going to remain "mechanical looking"? Maybe some short pieces of small styrene rod for knuckles?

Oh, I decided to digital camo, the "ship", the first stage masking is done, waiting paint. 

hOYHOY`AL,

Just for Mossie, it`s now got toes.





Let it never besaid that I don`t give the customer what he wants and just to be on the safe side it`s got toe paint too (well all machines are refered to as she arn`t they  )

But back to reality (or whatifery), this is the final pose and tommorrow I get to paint!.









As you can see I`ve added a bit of plate armour, fixed to look like a field mod` and as a chance to add a bit more battle damage.



A pic with Fred the  Fitter for scale (1:48)



And in this pic why do those three holes always remind me of the bear in the Muppets?.Perhaps it`s the `mouth` as well.
Edit.. checking this it now looks like Yoda from SW`s 



Oh well tommorrow I go digital. All comms and crits etc etc,

Cheers 
G

Hi Again Sumpter,

I see you took me at my word and thank you. I think some of your points have been dealt with in the latest photo batch of last nights work, but heres some off my reasoning behind work so far.

The Cane

I actually use a walking stick myself due to a damaged ankle and agree that the posture here isn`t perfect. The main problem is that the `hips` on the model are nowhere near the shoulders and the normal up and down line of support won`t work in this situation. I now have both `hands` gripping the crutch  trying to suggest that the good leg takes a step and the arms support the body as the damaged leg as lifted and moved forward. On the dio` I intend to show the left leg leaving a dragged trail mark in the ground and perhaps this visual aid maybe a discriptive help, along with wires and ammo belt scraps dragging along from the gun trailing in the direction of travel.

Hydraulics

I intend to add these after the bulk of painting and masking is done, These tend to be a weak link even in real life, and in battle would certanly be easily damaged. I had thought of using some fine flexible tubing with a fusewire or solder core to hold the shape, and wrapping some fine wire arround the outside in a tight spiral to suggest reinforcement. Perhaps a search on the internet for mechcanical diggers etc might reveal some insights.

Hands

These are just tubes over  florists wire fingers and I`ve now added some linkage to the back of the hands and some acrylic over the joints and knuckles to give a bit of detail, wether I`m happy with this after painting is yet yo be seen. The main design idea behind the hands is that I didn`t want the linkage to be exposed to the elements, mud etc so the idea is some form of rubber glove over the whole works with the internals showing through the outer skin in relief, and the idea of representing tears in the skin ala Terminator is also an idea I`m thinking of including, but I don`t want to `humanise` the design to much. The idea of walking mechanical wounded is new enough to me as it is.

Best of luck with the digital camo`, I`ve heard it can be a bit of a nightmare and thanks again for the input.

Cheers Gary

A few years ago, I broke an ankle, while on a camping trip in Arizona. For about twentyfour hours, I had to hobble around on one good foot, and a stick. Move the stick, lean on it and "jump". I got around, but it wasn't flattering.

I didn't count the number of little bits of masking tape I used in the first go round, but rough estimate is about 240 bits. As soon as the paint is dry, I can do another 200+, paint, and then remove all the bits.  "Bit of a nightmare", fairly accurately describes the process. I do know, now, why I never tried this scheme before.

"and wrapping some fine wire arround the outside in a tight spiral to suggest reinforcement.", This has been used in model railroading to make the flexible air, and steam hoses. It's a good effect.

 

Hoyhoy`al

Answers:
 philp-"  Still trying to figure out how it plays croquet."   It don`t.

Daryl J. "Now if this build has you a bit bored, what happens when you're all warmed up and focussed?"     Things like these

Well I`ve started painting, lightest colour first,





Unfortunately I`ve run out of Tamiya acrylics and have had to do this in enamels. Nothing wrong with enamels, but it means coating with somthing when I start washing in oils to avoid colour merge and a longer drying time. Anyways a quick overall coat in RLM 79 sand with a mini mask of RLM 71 Dunkle Grun. The mini masks are at the bottom of the picture. Bits of 10thou card cut to give a digital effect at the edge. I`ve used this technique before on larger models like ships and the Polar Lights Enterprises, You spray around the edges of the pattern and fill in the middle, but on this its a little small and oversprays a problem. Still I`ll give it over night to dry and do the darker green tommorrow and will see how it looks. Aiming for the impression of spraycans and a cardboard masking edge. But all in all very pleased with the build now its all one colour instead of the hodgepodge of bits it was yestersday.









The grey in the cockpit contrasts nicely with the camo` and am very happy with the way the hands have turned out.
Oh well more as it happens. All Crits & Comm`s etc
Cheers 
G

This si a great idea.  I liked it at first but the limp and cane are awesome.  Keep this stuff coming. 

hOYHOY`AL

An aside- My wife stuck her head into the HogCupboard today,while I was making a coffee, just to have a peek at what I`ve been doing. She gave a snort of laughter and said "What is it? a self portrait?". Suddenly I realised what she meant. There it was, a figure whose belly stuck out much further than it should way way in front of the head (pilots), oversized shoes, shufflin` along on a stick, wearing a coat of many colours just like my favourite lucky painting shirt. So that's where the inspiration comes from. Is my subconscious that weird?. Obviously me and future robot designers think alike. Why keep on growing up where the (h)air gets thin when you can grow out instead! 
Anyway onwards (and outwards)
Masked of some and gave it a blow over in dark green, took of the tape and I wasn`t impressed. In fact it looked crap!!!.What was I thinking of.




Thats when I went for the coffee.And another coffee and a think. I thought perhaps if I paint on some smaller squares it might get that digital look. So 2 hours later, totally missed off with painting loads of tiny rectangles in tan with a 00000 brush I had had enough. Another coffee and a smoke (given up on the peanuts), I remembered I had some scraps of decal in Luftwaffy colours left over from canopy framing sessions. Dug those out and chopped into small bits. Much quicker, not digital but a definite improvement. Certainly breaks up the outline.







Now looking a bit like pixalated German camo` or maybe something WW1`ish. Anyway have sprayed some more decal sheet and will continue tommorrow. I`m thinking of doing the `good` leg in a different pattern like a replacement part or something.

All Crits & Comms welcome
Cheers 
G

PS Obviously my lucking painting shirt failed today.

I printed out the photo of the fighter in digital camo, and I'm using that as a guide. It's far subtler than what you've got going on here.

Masked of some and gave it a blow over in dark green, took of the tape and I wasn`t impressed. In fact it looked crap!!!.What was I thinking of.

maybe you were thinking of what the photo looked like.

Had to take a break from building, I seem to have caught a "leaky beak", and it got to three tissues for each piece of masking tape applied. Another day or two on the antihistamines, and I should be good to go.

Hi Sumpter,

When I started this the photo was just a jump off point. I was more interested in the idea of blocks of colour rather than the coloured `bands` usually seen on camouflaged objects. I may still scrap this finish and go off in another direction, but I think I will experiment a little more to see where it leads.

Hope your cold improves

Cheers

Gary

 When I got off the 'puter, I made friends with a bottle of The Glenlivet, added several more layers of clothing, and crashed in the recliner!

Spent the better part of today, with new layers, and got most of the drawings done for the secondary hull of USS Kodiak NCC 6000. In case anyone's wondering, it's been a touch chilly here lately. With any luck, I'll be at the masking tape thing again tomorrow, I'd kind of like to see how this camo turns out.....both mine and yours.

Hoyhoy`Al
Trouble was, I thought, that with all the odd bitz of decals I had used it was becoming a Joseph. A mech of many colours. I had already sprayed up some decal film as in my last post, so after a quick rub over with 600 wet n dry, I sprayed the model in an overall coat of RLM 02 and added the decals. (RLM`s 79-81-82)









This I think looks better and more of a digital feel. Before I decal`d I gave it a blowover in gloss hence the shiny bits. I want to try out an idea of markings etc. Mind you I`m sick of decaling, I counted over 150 bitz of the tan alone before I gave up counting.
Oh well  onwards and outwards,
Com`s & Crit`s welcomed,
Cheers 
G

are those multicolored squares masking tape?  If not... you REALLY need to think your paint more, they are way to thick.

smeagol the vile wrote:

are those multicolored squares masking tape?

If you read the post the answers in there.

Read the post, the answer was not clear.

"I sprayed the model in an overall coat of RLM 02 and added the decals. (RLM`s 79-81-82)"

I'm not familiar with the decal manufacturer, and you didn't mention whether or not you used setting solution, but........decals, especially clear film sprayed with color over, are going to appear thicker than just a stock decal, or a coat of paint. I've used that technique for "applying" color in areas that would have been a real pain to mask, and even with setting solution the "decalled" areas can be detected. This is the primary reason I chose to start with a base coat, mask, apply the next color, mask....etc., and at the end, remove all the bits of masking. Unfortunately, my progress has been stopped "cold", by the upstairs neighbor abandoning his place, and turning off the power and gas.........the pipes didn't freeze................much! Only about fifteen pipe/fitting ruptures in both the cold, and hot, water lines. wouldn't have been a problem...........except water just happens to obey the laws of gravity, and the leaks were above me. Put a wet blanket on my creative enthusiasm (pun intended), It'll be a few days more before I can get back to model projects. Anywhatever, I like the dark base color.

Hi There Sumpter,

Yeah I know what you mean about the decal film being thicker with a coat of paint, but I went this way for two reasons. Firstly I`m mainly a plane bod building  in a diorama format with figures and such, and these junk builds are ideally a no expense involved therapy session for when I get bogged down in a serious build.  At the moment I`m building two dio`s such as these

see 109 Reich defenders in the group build section

 

see 109X in the aircraft section

Plus others in the style on the previous page

Both on hold for various reasons. I`m also building a solid 1:48 scale of the Horten 10 out of balsa and awaiting better weather so as to work outside because of the mess this model creates.

Secondly as I said these junk builds are just that, nothing serious, just keeping my hand in. Originally I had intended to mask these but in tape precut into shapes and paint much in the manner your using. But the small compound curves on this model made it awkward to mask and the tape kept lifting so decals were an easy way out. The decal I`ve used is somthing I`ve had for years. It is very thin and is printed in 3inch white numbers over a continual sheet of film and is intended for flying aero models and comes in handy. The basic body of the `mech is a inhaler and seems to be made of a nylon type plastic that is naturally greasy and paints rubs of if your not careful and has started to shed the decalling even thou` I used a gloss coat and the Micro solutions.

Hope both your cold and domestic problems are resolved soon.

Cheers Gary

wingzandthingz wrote:

"I sprayed the model in an overall coat of RLM 02 and added the decals. (RLM`s 79-81-82)"

Yea, you see, that doesnt explain bum f*** nothing to me.  I have no idea what the heck a RLM 02 is.  Ultimatly, it looks really ugly how thick those are 

I have no idea what the heck a RLM 02 is.

Reichs Luftfahrt Ministerium......ist nicht sprechen zie deutch...but it would be the ministry that determined paint colors for the third reichs military equipment. the numbers designate specific color formulations. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_RLM_paint_designations  should take you to the page that lists the different colors. Yeah, it's something you see all the time in the military modeler's world, where accuracy includes the right shade of color, in the right places. It's like counting "rivets", where the rivets are "color". Where I am primarily a model railroader, I might use terms like "coach green", or "railbox yellow", or "boxcar red", which in that hobby, are "fixed" colors.