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Posted by smeagol the vile on Friday, March 6, 2009 2:29 PM
that is a very concise a watered down version, if you have any questions, ask

 

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Posted by Skonch on Friday, March 6, 2009 7:17 AM

Great!

Your reply has been "Cut & Pasted" onto a word document.

Your help has been most valuable - Thanks

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Posted by smeagol the vile on Wednesday, March 4, 2009 11:54 AM
well, first I build the kit snapped, I open the snap holes so it comes appart easily, I build it so I can see what goes where.  After that I build and fix the seam lines on all of the joints and inner frame parts that show.  Then I take all of the armor parts that slide on and I take my airbrush to them, AB or spraycan that is.  Prime them in white then the color.  I normally spray the frame one solid color.  I then take all parts with pannel lines, I paint all of the lines a dark black, then re-spray giving it a preshading effect.  Then I will hit it with a gloss coate.  After that I weather the kit, dry brushing, washes, etc etc.  then I put a dull coate.

 

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Posted by ROBO SNOWMAN on Wednesday, March 4, 2009 6:29 AM

Smeagol is there any way you can give me a step by step on the way you build and paint your models?

mainly the paint though

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Posted by Skonch on Wednesday, March 4, 2009 3:18 AM

Thanks Smeagol,

 That's been very helpful. Love the pictures that you posted as well - 

 

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Posted by smeagol the vile on Tuesday, March 3, 2009 11:43 PM
thats not my kit, just grabbed the shot online.  Just buy flat colors, either that, or just put a flat coat over a gloss.

 

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Posted by SkullGundam on Tuesday, March 3, 2009 9:48 PM
I like the finish on that GP01.  How do you get that color?  Is it just a flat coat over the gloss coat?

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Posted by smeagol the vile on Tuesday, March 3, 2009 8:44 PM

Well still, your thinking about the box art and the anime, even those colors are subject to change and personal taste. here are some examples of the gundam paint scheme but different

 

While it can be colorful, by no means does it have to be glossy, that is up to you in the end, even the ones that seem like they should, like char's mechs and such... they dont have to be.  The sazabi in CCA wasnt shiny at all, even though it was that nice red color.

 

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Posted by Skonch on Tuesday, March 3, 2009 6:30 PM

Paint colours again -

Firstly, I must make it clear that my knowledge of the Gundam series is limited, I mainly enjoy making the kits and I appreciate the design that goes into them.

There seems to be 2 distinct types, the military looking types (baddies) and the sleeker, spikier models of varying colours these are the Gudam Units I guess.

The Gundam units tend to have striking colour schemes, while the military ones have the drab/combat schemes. Combat schmes are not problem. The bright, custom finishes of the Gundam units are a different matter.

While I would have no hesitation weathering the military units, the brightly coloured Gundam units need a little more finesse. I'd use gloss paint, then do a subtle weathering job after the paint job has dried, is there an alternative?

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Posted by smeagol the vile on Tuesday, March 3, 2009 11:49 AM
I use testors red.  If your glue wont over run just make sure you put enough of it on to firmly fuse the two parts together.  When that is done, sand it a lil bit, add putty, etc etc

 

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Posted by ROBO SNOWMAN on Tuesday, March 3, 2009 7:09 AM
i cant seem to get my glue to over run haha Im useing tamiya extra thin, what glue do you use?
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Posted by smeagol the vile on Monday, March 2, 2009 12:21 PM

for seam filling I gue 2 methods at once, the over glue, so ti spills out of the seam and you can slice it off, then I use testors white putty.

One of these days im gona put out a little tutorial on filling seams for gundam kits.

 

As far as the colorings... Satin = bad, actuially.

If you ever watch the series, they seem to be all shiny and such, but the furthur you get along, the more you start to see that its quite the opposite.  The best example being the first ric dias in zeta gundam, the black one

Just like anything else military they tried their best to use camo on vehichles.  The same goes for gundams, they would NOT have a shiny satin finish, if anything it would be a flat paint to cover the metalicness of the frame of the mech, which is why you paint something like that.  Desert units were more painted tans, jungle units greens and browns, artic units white.  Also, space units, though alot of the times in mass produced colors, whenever possible would be done in camo to fit the scenery as well.

 

 

 

 

 

Ultimatly, you can give it a 'show room finish' like you would a car model, but that wouldnt be the norm for any mech that was combat bound.

 

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Posted by Skonch on Monday, March 2, 2009 10:24 AM

I guess that if you are going to fill in the seams, you also have to paint the kit as well!

I have painted ww2 suff before no problem, but Gundam kits need to have a satin finish. Are their any articles that discuss painting? and what is he best as a finishing coat?

 

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Posted by ROBO SNOWMAN on Monday, March 2, 2009 7:35 AM
SVT what do you use for sanding and filling your seams?
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Posted by smeagol the vile on Sunday, March 1, 2009 3:32 PM
Want a bit of advice, what I do, for fun, is I take kits I built, but didnt fix the seams or painted, or whatnot, I take them down, disassemble, and build, and fix the seams, and all of taht

 

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Posted by Skonch on Sunday, March 1, 2009 1:53 AM

Skull,

It is a problem when e-mailing and posting on forums that things can sometimes be taken the wrong way. Looking at my post above (the one with the Sans Seam Lines bit), it did look as though I had a bee in my bonnet, that was not my intention.

I am having tremenous fun posting here. I am a Newby and I have taken what Smeagol is saying as intended. I didn't expect to post on a forum like this without getting some constructive criticism., it is both welcomed and appreated. 

I am looking forward to building my next Gundam, making improvents and showing it off here!

 

 

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Posted by SkullGundam on Saturday, February 28, 2009 1:52 PM

Robo- I do think that kit is cool.  And I agree with STV, the minelayer is cool too.  I can't wait till I get one of the Zaku 2.0 kits, they all look amazing. 

Skonch- STV sounds like he's criticizing alot, but its his way of giving constructive feedback.  I've noticed that not many people give constructive feedback anymore, especially on a site like Bakuc (the link he sent you), so advice from him isn't meant to be a put down.  And seam lines are his pet peeve.  We all have one, that's his.  But he is correct, your models will look better without them.  I'm still trying to get them perfect too. 

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Posted by smeagol the vile on Friday, February 27, 2009 9:11 PM

To snowman, that is a nice kit, the Zaku 2.0 on it's own is beautiful, I have one, but parts had gone missing for the head, saddly.  That version seems to be the same, just with custom legs and backpack (which I have from the old version, nice looking pieces)  Personally though, if you dont have any affinity toward Shin M. I'd go for the minelayer Zaku before that one, the minelayer pack is just wicked, and its so not something normally done.

 

to our new turd baby, a few things.  First you should start working asap on seams, they are the major problem when building gundam kits, and its the difference between a toy that was painted, and an award winning model.

As far as the photoshopped stuff, thats fine as long as you say so, because if you look at... lets say... this http://www.bakuc.com/modeler/vic01/3158, you can see why I asked 

 

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Posted by Skonch on Friday, February 27, 2009 2:48 PM

That looks really great.

After the criticism I gotfrom Smeagol, I'd be interested in seeing the finished article (sans seam lines).

Smile [:)]

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Posted by ROBO SNOWMAN on Friday, February 27, 2009 12:22 PM

@ STV

I was looking at this one here http://www.gundamstoreandmore.com/ban956655.html

so what do you think about this one?

One more question do you get a magazine for the models or something because I can never seem to find any?

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Posted by Skonch on Friday, February 27, 2009 12:10 PM

Re seam removal.

I have really only just started getting back into model building after 30 odd years.

Finding this site has encouraged me to improve my rusty skills, I will be sure to look up the article. The finish is very important to me so any improvement will be great!

Thanks.

 Oh, the lights, they have been Photoshop'd. (sorry).

 Still, I loved the kit, which is what the post is about.

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Posted by smeagol the vile on Friday, February 27, 2009 9:34 AM

Did you install LEDs to those lights, or is that just a photoshopped effect?

Before you go painting your kits, do a search on this site for 'seam removal' and learn about it, it will make your kits look alot better, and they will be accepted better around here 

 

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Posted by Skonch on Friday, February 27, 2009 8:10 AM

Hi!

 

I'm new to the Gundam thing, I have only built 3 examples, but they are sooo adictive I've ordered more.

I have just completed the Tieran Ground Type unit. I liked it because it was really nice to paint. Before I put the parts together I "washed" them in modellers acrylic black paint which I dried off using a paper towel. This left traces of oily looking marks in the detailing. I thought that it looked great when it was completed.

He's a mean looking Mutha as well!

Looky here:

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Posted by ROBO SNOWMAN on Tuesday, February 24, 2009 9:16 AM
thank you smeagol. man is that red one sweet or what
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Posted by smeagol the vile on Tuesday, February 24, 2009 8:46 AM

They just released the G armor in MG 2.0 form, first time this kit was in MG.  Its for the Mg 2.0 gundam.

http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10081025

http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10082755

http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10078493 

 

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Posted by ROBO SNOWMAN on Tuesday, February 24, 2009 5:44 AM

yeah hopefully haha. Ill look into tha one.

 

Are there any brand new ones I should be aware of

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Posted by Sian on Monday, February 23, 2009 5:09 PM

I hope you find them soon!

The Shin Musha Gundam looks great, and has a lot of room for custom paintjobs and mods. you could give it a go!

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I lost my Gundams
Posted by ROBO SNOWMAN on Monday, February 23, 2009 6:41 AM

Well I lost my two Gundam kits I was useing for the group build we were doing when I moved to my new place.

So does anyone have a suggestion on a new MG Gundam kit for me to build

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