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Posted by modeleer on Monday, August 10, 2009 2:59 PM

Thanx Michael!

Currently on my workbench is the Colt Vickers Quad Fission Caonnon (here after - CVQFC).

 

I started with the Seat as WayneO (my research BloodHound) found an obscure source - matching a 1948 chair (Dannish/Modelern). It's 24 inches wide which gave us a Scale to work from.


Next is the Blast Shield that measures an exact 5 ft. square. The finished Cannon is the ol Lunar Model version that I used as a Study Model.



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  • From: Carrollton, Texas
Posted by BraniffBuff on Friday, July 24, 2009 9:00 PM
I just received my dome, and it is an outstanding product, one of the thickest pieces of vac-formed plastic I've ever seen. My order was delayed a bit due to (1) the fact that I forgot to order (duh!) when the first batch was ready, and (2) production problems with the second batch, but I was kept informed of the problem, and the part was well worth the wait. I highly recommend it to fans of the Polar Lights C-57D kit.

Can't wait to see what else in the way of replacement parts and accessories these guys come up with!
Michael McMurtrey IPMS-USA #1746 Carrollton, TX
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Posted by modeleer on Saturday, June 27, 2009 2:02 PM
If you are interested in a C-57D Vac-Dome , but haven't ordered, I suggest you do it soon. We're gonna shut this down for a while (early July) & offer it again later.
Also, ...we will possibly be working on Other accessories (vehicles + bottom dome / w lights(?))
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Posted by modeleer on Tuesday, June 16, 2009 3:28 PM
Thee 1st batch of C-57D Domes are en Route!!!
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  • From: The Redwood Empire
Posted by Aaronw on Tuesday, June 9, 2009 7:51 PM
 Division 6 wrote:

Aves

Aves also has a Saftey Solvent some people use to smooth and feather the edges instead of water. 

Magic Sculpt can be found at these stores. 

I got mine at Tap Plastics. 

Or you can get plumbers putty in 5 and 20 minute cure times.

This is a grey stick with purple center that you cut off a slice and knead till one color.

Comes in a clear tube.

Don't get the steel version it is hard as steel and smells really bad.

Should be available at the hardware store.

 

Eric... 

 

Where do you have a TAP Plastic? I believe I'm just up 140 a bit from you, but the only TAP plastics I know of are in Dublin and San Leandro in the Bay Area. 

 

 

Oh and Chuck, nice build. I didn't even know this kit existed.

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Posted by justimagine on Monday, June 1, 2009 10:15 AM
The Domes for the C-57D kit are ready. Modeleers and I (nautilusnut) are making these new domes available in heavy white styrene. Since there is a set up charge we will be doing these as a "run". Please allow up to 2 weeks delivery As we are taking orders and having them pulled at the same time. The new dome simply replaces the older, inaccurate kit dome. No modifications are necessary- just paint to match your ship. A clear dome will be offered in the future. Cutting the dome out and sanding the edges "fogs" the plastic somewhat. It will need some elbow grease to polish the lower part - but the polished plastic is very clear. If you need one polished for you we can do it- at a higher cost.

You can see the difference in the new dome by going to this address:

http://s23.photobucket.com/albums/b398/nautilusnut/?action=view&current=Newdome-1.jpg

 
The Dome is a (10.125" / 25.5 mm) vac-pull in 1/16th" (.062) white styrene - cut & sanded to fit the flat area on the Polar Lights C-57D. Any further refinements are the responsibility of the buyer.



PS: A Clear Dome version should follow shortly, but at $45+, it is currently - cost prohibitive.
We are looking into a - You Polish / Clear Dome - for $27.50.
This will provide a Clear Dome - cut & sanded flat to fit - but the prep work results in frosted areas that the buyer would have to polish themself.
This would be suggested - For experienced modelers Only!
Let us know if any of you are still interested in Clear Domes & we may go down that road.
Thanx Again - Modele

To Order & obtain Pricing & Payment information, please send an Email (that will also serve as an Order Form) to this Eddress; panotraguis@comcast.net
Please include your contact info:
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Thanx! - for your interest in this project.

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  • From: Longmont, Colorado
Posted by Cadet Chuck on Thursday, May 28, 2009 9:08 AM

Thanks for the interesting link!  It says the former owner wanted to keep the big model, but "his wife made him sell it!"

I would have kept the model, and lost the wife!  Disapprove [V]

Incidentally, I recently completed my C-57D model- here's a photo of it-

Gimme a pigfoot, and a bottle of beer...

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  • From: Carrollton, Texas
Original Film Miniature Found; To be Auctioned
Posted by BraniffBuff on Tuesday, May 26, 2009 11:50 AM
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/herocomplex/2008/12/the-lost-saucer.html
Michael McMurtrey IPMS-USA #1746 Carrollton, TX
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Posted by justimagine on Friday, May 15, 2009 10:29 PM

The replacement dome is moving along sharply.  The first sample with be in hand in about a week.

I will post photos of it as soon as possible. 

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  • From: Carrollton, Texas
Posted by BraniffBuff on Tuesday, May 12, 2009 10:41 AM
Definitely interested in the clear dome.
Michael McMurtrey IPMS-USA #1746 Carrollton, TX
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Posted by justimagine on Tuesday, May 12, 2009 10:08 AM

The new dome master is completely finished and matches the studio minature perfectly.  It also is the correct size for the dome in this scale.   photo shows the pattern painted and sitting on the upper hull parts.  The line at the bottom of the dome is the "trim line" and will not be on the finished piece.  Now, I need to know if you are genuinely interested in getting one.  I AM NOT TAKING ORDERS AT THIS TIME.  I simply need a good idea of how many to order- this affects my price and delivery.  I am aiming for 20.00 plus shipping for a solid-colored, trimmed and ready to paint dome molded in heavy stryrene.  Clear is available and will be 5.00 more.  Shipping is extra.  So- if you want one, please let me know and which one you'd like to have, and as soon as I am ready to produce I'll let everyone know.

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  • From: Longmont, Colorado
Posted by Cadet Chuck on Friday, May 8, 2009 10:37 AM

The spaceship interior is now complete, except for Robby the Robot.  The dome will be left loose so it can be removed for inspection.  Don't want to cover up all this work!

Gimme a pigfoot, and a bottle of beer...

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Posted by justimagine on Tuesday, May 5, 2009 9:14 AM

The new dome is at the caster.  He is an expert with finishes and has gone the final step in polishing the surface and making sure it is perfectly formed.  It was 95%, but will be 101% when you get it!  We are considering offering it ready to paint and plop in place-no cutting or trimming.  If you've ever cut out a thick vacuum-formed piece and then sanded it down you know how tough it can be.
We should have the first pull before this weekend.  I will be posting a photo of the final master in a few days.

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b398/nautilusnut/newdome.jpg

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  • From: Longmont, Colorado
Posted by Cadet Chuck on Tuesday, April 28, 2009 8:11 PM

Thanks for the info, guys! 

Gimme a pigfoot, and a bottle of beer...

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Posted by Boelenspython on Tuesday, April 28, 2009 3:16 PM
extra info - the Id stands about 9 inches tall. It sells for $125-150.00- rather steep..might have to look on e-bay. Plus per Tony he will be doing a smaller one again this year.
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Posted by Boelenspython on Tuesday, April 28, 2009 3:05 PM

Hello Chuck,

 not sure if your aware, BUT if you really want to go the extra mile, you can get the ID Monster by Tony McVey - it's resin, and should "fit" the scale.

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Posted by justimagine on Tuesday, April 28, 2009 2:00 PM

I've sent the master pattern off to my friend who will do the actual molding.  As soon as I receive the new dome I'll post a photo.  I've attached a link showing how much difference the dome will make.

 

http://s23.photobucket.com/albums/b398/nautilusnut/?action=view&current=Dome-outline.jpg
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  • From: Longmont, Colorado
Posted by Cadet Chuck on Monday, April 27, 2009 8:42 AM
Fitting the top and bottom saucer discs together is going to be tricky, too.  I'm wondering how to get the internal locating pins inside around the dome opening to mate properly, when you can't see them when the interior is installed  (as it must be, when you do the final assembly.)  I've tried it without the interior in place, and they don't all line up perfectly, either.  I think I will drill the mating holes out a little larger to give it some "wiggle room."

Gimme a pigfoot, and a bottle of beer...

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Posted by justimagine on Sunday, April 26, 2009 9:04 PM
My Sears craftsman hand sorbital sander is doing mine.  This is why the ones you see built on the net usually paint weathering lines on the section joints and why you don't see this brute on the tables at model shows.  The only thing bigger than this kit is the task of building it properly.
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Posted by Cadet Chuck on Saturday, April 25, 2009 11:22 AM

I used the Black & Decker mouse sander on mine, too.  That thing was just too big to do by hand, and it needed some brute force.  I did finish sanding using wet 400 grit paper.  After refilling and resanding and repainting three times, some little parts of the seams were still visible and I said to heck with it at that point.    Banged Head [banghead]

I painted it with Rustoleum "Painter's Touch" metallic aluminum spray cans, over Rustoleum primer, and after many coats, buffing each one, finished it off with Pledge/Future acrylic floor polish.  It's not perfect but looks pretty decent if you don't get too close!     

Gimme a pigfoot, and a bottle of beer...

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  • From: Lacombe, LA.
Posted by Big Jake on Friday, April 24, 2009 6:23 PM
What I'm about to say, many won't beleave, but the issues of sanding that big sucker was handled with a Black and Decker "Mouse" sander. After fitting and gluing the parts together, I used autobody "Red" glazing compound to fill the seams. Sanded them down refilled and sanded then primed with Floquil Primer this is a little thicker than the normal model primer.  them used Testors Aluminum enamel.  Cam out great. The model is in a case at a client's house.

 

 

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Posted by justimagine on Friday, April 24, 2009 1:50 PM

Here's a link to a photo of the master pattern next to the kit part.

 http://s23.photobucket.com/albums/b398/nautilusnut/?action=view&current=dome.jpg

 

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  • From: Longmont, Colorado
Posted by Cadet Chuck on Friday, April 24, 2009 12:36 PM
Good deal!  I'll be watching for it.

Gimme a pigfoot, and a bottle of beer...

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Posted by justimagine on Friday, April 24, 2009 9:50 AM
New dome master is ready!  Will post a photo of the pattern soon!
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Posted by justimagine on Monday, April 20, 2009 8:22 AM

Chuck,

 

Your right both about the ship's profile and how great "The Saucer Fleet" book is.  I had not realised about the taller upper suction when I assembled my hull or I'd have tried to do something about it. Actually, the LOWER hull is the one in error.  Still, as you look at the kit, most of us will be looking down on the model and the dome is what really shows, so that's what I'm gonna correct.

I'm also checking into using a small motor with blades to add the rotating engine effect- I'll post my results in the future- along with the information about the replacement dome

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  • From: Longmont, Colorado
Posted by Cadet Chuck on Sunday, April 19, 2009 10:40 AM

Roger on the dome, thanks for setting me straight.  I'd be very interested in purchasing the new dome from you, when it's ready.  I won't glue mine on so I can change anytime.

Another mistake the kit made is that the saucer, when viewed edge on, should not have a symetrical shape regarding the top and bottom discs.  The top disc should be quite a bit taller than the bottom disc.  I found a great set of reference drawings for the ship, inside and out, (and plenty of behind the scenes info about the movie) in a new book, "The Saucer Fleet" by Jack Hagerty and Jon Rogers, published by Apogee books.  You can purchase a copy from Jon Rogers here:

http://www.rogersrocketships.com/home.cfm

It's a work of art, and the chapter on "Forbidden Planet" alone is worth the price.

Thanks for the compliment- the seams are not perfect, but if you dim the lights and stand back far enough, it looks good!  Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]  I gave it a coat of Pledge/Future floor polish which gave it a nice shine.

Have you built one of these models?  If so, how about showing us a photo?

Gimme a pigfoot, and a bottle of beer...

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Posted by justimagine on Saturday, April 18, 2009 9:22 PM

Chuck, You misunderstood me. The kit part fits just fine. The problem is, it is the wrong shape and size compared to the C-57D minature used in the film.  Polar Lights dome is the wrong shape and is undersized compared to the original filming minature.   If you want a model that looks like the film minature, you're gonna have to use a bigger dome that's more rounded- like a half-sphere shape rather than going up and then inward.  There are other accuracy issues with the kit as well, but the dome shape is the easiest to fix and makes a real difference in the kit's look.  If you build it as molded you get a nifty-looking saucer that looks almost, but not quite, like the film version and for lots of folks, that's ok.

 By the way, nice job on filling the seams.

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  • From: Longmont, Colorado
Posted by Cadet Chuck on Friday, April 17, 2009 9:03 PM
Well, I just tried fitting the upper dome to my C-57D, and was pleased to find it fits just perfectly- it is not too small in diameter as mentioned in previous posts.  I wonder why- maybe there were several production runs where things did not go right, or maybe parts deformed in storage in the box.  I know I had bad warpage of the saucer sections in my kit, as it sat unpacked on the shelf for about eight years before I started to build it recently.  Nevertheless, I am still interested in hearing from "justimagine" when his new vacuum formed dome is available.

Gimme a pigfoot, and a bottle of beer...

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  • From: Longmont, Colorado
Posted by Cadet Chuck on Friday, April 17, 2009 11:00 AM

At first, I was planning to leave the dome clear, but have reconsidered.  My dome is kind of foggy, not sparkling clear like the lower dome, and as the model is taking shape, I can see how it would look and have decided to paint it.  I did make the lower dome transparent blue, by airbrushing the inside with Tamiya transparent acrylic.  It really looks nice, but lately I learned that the bottom dome glows red with rotating segments when flying through space.  Darn, I could have done it that way, but it's too late now!

Also note, the ship only has three legs/ramps.  The other three are meant to be assembled closed and you should make the seams disappear.  The kit was only built this way for cost reduction purposes, as putting in six ramps allows all six sections of the saucer to come from the same mold, rather than having to make three parts with ramp opening and three without.

Here's a photo of the bottom section upside down on the table:

Gimme a pigfoot, and a bottle of beer...

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