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Vic Viper
Posted by Sian on Wednesday, July 15, 2009 8:01 PM

My next project is decided.

Gradius II version of the Vic Viper, which was half off from HLJ the other week.

 

 

 

 Attractive box, and a gorgeous manual.

 

 

 

 

they go through a lot of technical details too, which is nice.

 

 

 

 5 white sprues, 1 dark gray, 1 clear, and a sheet of thick, shiny, totally useless stickers.

 

 

 The plan is to ignore the supplied flight base, and sculpt a Moai for it to be buzzing over, and in addition have the option bits flying in formation, perhaps even glowing.

This one should be fun. ^.^

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  • From: Philadelphia PA
Posted by smeagol the vile on Thursday, July 16, 2009 1:18 AM
Looks like a nice kit, cant wait for the build.  I love the manuals for anime kits, ever see the 2 manuals that come with perfect grade gundam kits?

 

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Posted by Sian on Thursday, July 16, 2009 2:17 AM

Naw, i've never had the chance to pick up a perfect grade.

Once I start the build on this, will have to see what the fit is like. It *looks* like a good quality kit. Can only hope it goes together as easily as a master grade.

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Posted by smeagol the vile on Thursday, July 16, 2009 3:26 AM
I'd scan, but ther both atleast 20 pages, one is the instructions the other is a full detailed book on the history of the mech, its nuts

 

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Posted by Swanny on Thursday, July 16, 2009 6:35 AM
That's a very interesting looking kit. Sounds like a good display plan as well.
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Posted by Sian on Friday, July 17, 2009 2:16 AM

 Swanny wrote:
That's a very interesting looking kit. Sounds like a good display plan as well.

interesting. Yeah. 

Yeah I know 95% syndrome and all with the Sinanju, but really I just need to clean up the gold there. I've been peering closer at the Vic Viper, and it's got me worried this won't be nearly as easy as I thought:

The clear parts are thick slabs. I'm going to have to sand them down a little and future them, maybe they'll turn out.. then there's the question of gold tinting. How do you folks do gold tint? I've read Swanny's guides already, though any tint I use will probably be airbrushed instead of dipped. I'm considering if Rub N Buff might be a good way to go. Also, it's a double canopy, inner and outer. I think this will look neat, but they've got these thick locator pins that I'll have to remove, polish out, and fill the holes in the cockpit. Argh Argh Argh.

The cockpit itself: No detail at all. There's a lot of potential here, a lot of potential for hassle.

The molding on the body itself, it's this odd kind of rough texture. I'm expecting to have to polish and prime the hell out of it, and then possibly re-scribe lost detail. Argh.

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Posted by Swanny on Friday, July 17, 2009 11:08 AM
Well for real gold tint anodizing is about the only way but that's not something available to most modelers. I would suggest some Tamiya clear yellow thinned with isopropyl alcohol and airbrush two or three light coats. I just did that with some clear green for my Huey 1C build and while I did have to strip it twice in Future before I got a finish I liked it did turn out okay in the end. If you do this and don't like the results just soak the part overnight in Future then wash off - takes you right back to square one.
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Posted by Sian on Saturday, July 18, 2009 12:56 AM

Today I did some test fitting, and immediately started lopping off locator pins. The plastic is weird, translucent and kind of soft and brittle. This is going to be interesting.



Yeah. that won't work.

On to more test fitting. Look at that cockpit..




Yeah. Uh.



We got some work to do.
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Posted by Sian on Saturday, July 18, 2009 11:54 PM
Upper and lower fuselage mostly completed.
 
First I had to fill in the large posts for the two nested canopies. I drew in the panel lines for my own reference, so I don't wipe anything out with sanding. You can really see the odd pebbly texture of the very resin-like plastic here.
 
 
 
So here's what I did with the cockpit. Cemented it to the upper fuselage, it's actually quite a good fit! Chopped the back of the seat, I'll rebuild that as well as cowl in the back, and add some details. Not too much, with two tinted canopies in the way, it'll be chunky to be seen.
 
 
 
 
This fuselage is the same for the Vic Viper 1, 2, and 3, and the hole at the bottom needed to be enlarged for the connector for the II's undercarriage to actually fit. Pretty much every part is like this, *something* needs to be cut, thinned, or modified to make it fit right. 
 Before,
 
 
 
and after cutting.
 
 
 
But wait, see those big gray things coming out the option bit bays? 
 
 
 
 
They keep the bay doors from actually fitting flush with the cowlings. dammit. Also see that square peg on the landing bay door to let it be 'easily removed'? Yeah, that's gonna go away.
 

 
 
I see no reason to keep the option bay doors removable, so the gray things gotta go.
 
 
 
 
That's better! Need to clean it up a little, but it's well on its way. I just spot-cemented the doors from the insides of the bay, while it was sitting on a flat surface.
 
 
 
 
The intake cowlings needed a little help. Another case of oversize pins, oversize locator holes, it's like they're trying to make things not fit right. Well, that's taken care of easily enough.
 
 
 
Cowlings are on! once all the fitment issues are taken care of, they look pretty good! 
 
 
 
 
but wait! The little fin on the belly has a huge plastic pin that's, guess what? Too big! That won't work. Chop and Glue.
 
 
 
That's it for today! Next I start on the weapon bay mandibles.
 

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Posted by Cosmic J on Monday, July 20, 2009 11:02 PM

Excellent thread. I saw these on sale at HLJ and almost bought a couple, wish I had now.

Keep up the good work, I'm cheering for ya! Big Smile [:D]

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Posted by Sian on Tuesday, July 21, 2009 12:54 AM
  •  Cosmic J wrote:

    Excellent thread. I saw these on sale at HLJ and almost bought a couple, wish I had now.

    Keep up the good work, I'm cheering for ya! Big Smile [:D]

     

    They're sold out of the Gradius I Vic Viper, but the II, V, and Sky Girls versions are still on sale.

     

    So I've got a reference pic for the Vic Viper II's cockpit. Now to try and make the tiny 1/100 cockpit look like this:

     

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Posted by Swanny on Tuesday, July 21, 2009 1:37 PM
Looking real nice, keep those updates coming.
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Posted by Sian on Wednesday, July 22, 2009 5:27 PM

turns out a couple of AA's won't light up a 3mm 3.6Vf@10mA blue LED very well.

 Need to go back out and get a 1k-ohm resistor and wire it up with a spare A23 cell I've got.

 

whee!

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Posted by Swanny on Wednesday, July 22, 2009 6:21 PM
1K ohm? That sounds a little extreme. What kind of voltage do you have on your power source?
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Posted by Sian on Wednesday, July 22, 2009 6:46 PM

first I took the xacto razor saw to the kit's inner bell, cause I'm replacing the baffle with the mechaskunk F-thruster baffle. Also have to carefully remove the post at the center, to relocate it.

 

Everything joined up pretty easy. The size was *perfect* didn't need to fiddle at all. And it all goes right together.

 

And we have a successful test burn! The wiring is, well, a hack, I'm actually using the 2 AA's, and holding a third AA in series directly to the contact. Don't Try This at Home. the final version will use a 12v cell and I need to pick up a 1000 ohm resistor from Fry's.

 

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Posted by Swanny on Wednesday, July 22, 2009 6:54 PM
That looks very nice.
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Posted by Sian on Wednesday, July 22, 2009 7:12 PM

 Swanny wrote:
1K ohm? That sounds a little extreme. What kind of voltage do you have on your power source?

right now I'm jury-rigging 3xAA so 4.5v direct. I could set it up that way, but I'm leaning towards 12v, which the handy LED calculator says will need a 1000ohm resistor.

And thanks, I think it'll look even better when the nozzles are painted up!

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Posted by Cosmic J on Thursday, July 23, 2009 4:52 AM
Those engines look really nice.
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Posted by Sian on Thursday, August 6, 2009 12:01 AM
Today was spent sanding, re-scribing Every. Single. Panel line, (as molded the panel lines were shallow and soft-edged as it was, and any sort of sanding quickly wiped them all out) sanding some more, and assembling the weapon mandibles, which will also need to be sanded and re-scribed. I need to finalize the wiring, and where it's going to come out, so that I can assemble the fuselage halves.

Removed yet more 'assembly aids' for getting in my way too much. Whoever engineered this kit went WAY overboard on the snap-fit convenience, thus guaranteeing that it can never ever be easily assembled to any sort of standard.

I have three bruised fingertips and can't feel my thumb. More tomorrow.
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Posted by Sian on Tuesday, August 11, 2009 5:24 PM

Update! Yay!

 Lot of work done to this point, filled, sanded, filled some more, sanded some more, and rescribed panel lines. Main assembiles are together, and now I can focus on detail.

 I was a little worried about light leakakge from the thruster into the main body, so I chopped up some .1 styrene sheet and coated one side with baremetal foil, stuffed it into the exhaust. Looks like that'll work!




Properly wired up now with a 670 ohm resistor and 23a 12v cell. Yay!



Wires exit the back through the secondary engine cowling. May need a little carving to get things right, but this won't be a problem.


Everything goes together nice and tight, no thanks to all the pegs and clips I lopped off.


 Started on the cockpit, tubbed it out a little and added a console, and made sure a modified Gundam pilot will fit inside. yay! Still need to fully fair it in, most detail will be paint, and I can't get too concerned about the little cockpit, it will be hard to see when everything is done.

 

the fueslage is together! I'll need to do some more sanding and filling when the mandibles are set, but the fit is really pretty good for these.

 

there's supposed to be crosspieces matching the triangular designs near the cockpit, so I had to fab these out of chunks of evergreen strip. I think they came out well. They'll need a little sanding too.

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