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Attack Tomahawk 1/100 - W.I.P.
Posted by Cosmic J on Monday, July 19, 2010 5:04 AM

Since the first time I saw Robotech as a teenager in the 80's, I've wanted a model of the Destroid Tomahawk from Macross. Unfortunately, the kits were expensive and hard to find - examples of the 1/100 scale version show up on e-bay at absolutely crazy prices.

So as you can imagine I was very happy when Bandai re-popped some of the old kits. I grabbed two of these off of HLJ at about $6 apiece - now that's a low price!

Opening the box, I find that the Tomahawk is a relatively simple kit. I expected that at 1/100 scale.

Just two sprues and some decals, with a one page instruction sheet. This should be easy...

Riiiight...

Looking at how the kit goes together, I decided to assemble and paint the "thigh" portion of the legs before building the rest of the kit - sanding and painting the knee area after construction would have been difficult or impossible. The grooves on the joint are very tiny, I had to use a micro drill bit to remove the seam in them.

 

So far, so good...

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Posted by iafrate on Monday, July 19, 2010 5:50 AM

What do you use to sand in between each "grille" channel on the thigh pieces?

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Posted by Phil_H on Monday, July 19, 2010 6:31 AM

Cosmic J
Unfortunately, the kits were expensive and hard to find - examples of the 1/100 scale version show up on e-bay at absolutely crazy prices.

Yep, I recall looking at some of the original boxings on EBay several years ago going for somewhere between $50 and $60. I believe I have one or two of the chrome plated "special edition" kits deep in the stash..  Big Smile

You got a great deal for $6 each Yes 

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Posted by SLW 45 on Monday, July 19, 2010 11:18 AM

Been looking forward to this build

Please keep the updates coming

                 

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Posted by SteelSnail on Monday, July 19, 2010 5:11 PM

Keep us posted.

I'm very interested cause I also got one of the re-injected ones along with a phalanx Smile

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Posted by Cosmic J on Thursday, July 22, 2010 3:37 AM

iafrate

What do you use to sand in between each "grille" channel on the thigh pieces?

Iafrate, I think your avatar is trying to tell me something.

For removing those little seams, I used a micro carbide drill bit. I laid the bit in the groove and slid it side to side, scraping away small bits of plastic w/ each pass. Worked quite well, and quick too. It made the grooves a little concave, but it’s actually hard to tell because they’re so small.

 

Phil_H
Yep, I recall looking at some of the original boxings on EBay several years ago going for somewhere between $50 and $60. I believe I have one or two of the chrome plated "special edition" kits deep in the stash..  
You got a great deal for $6 each  

Yeah, that’s about what they’re going for now. The 1/72 scale kits can be priced at $100 or more. Just crazy.

The Tomahawks are sold out, but the Phalanx kit is still available on HLJ for around $7, if you’re interested in one of those.

 

SLW 45

Been looking forward to this build

Please keep the updates coming

 

Will do. Big Smile

 

SteelSnail

Keep us posted.

I'm very interested cause I also got one of the re-injected ones along with a phalanx

Absolutely. Smile

 

I’m not a fan of the Phalanx design. The "arms" are a bit too big for my taste – they overwhelm the rest of the kit. However, I was thinking I could use the legs and body from that model as replacements on my Defender kit, which really suffers in those areas. If you have pictures of the Phalanx parts, I wouldn’t mind seeing them.

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Posted by Cosmic J on Thursday, July 22, 2010 4:08 AM

Continuing on, I began looking for ways I could improve the details of the kit. The first thing I wanted to fix was the hips. On the sides are some molded in grills or louvers. Unfortunately, they don't line up, they're somewhat sunken in the middle, and it would be almost impossible to sand away the seam...

...so I just covered them up w/ a bit of sheet styrene. If I had some more time (or the inclination), I would have replaced them w/ home made grills, or some grooved evergreen sheet stock - I just didn't have any on hand. I'll probably do that on the next one.

Next up was the gun arms. After putting them together, there was a seam to remove as usual. Unfortunately the seam ran down the inside of the barrel. Same problem with a corresponding hollow space at the back. I couldn't figure out how to sand those smooth, so I decided to cheat the seams.

On the front, I drilled out the barrel with a drill bit slightly larger than the original bore diameter, and then fitted a short length of brass tube of the appropriate size into the muzzle. In the rear, I applied liquid cement and then dropped a small plastic burner nozzle from Kotobukia in the space. After both had set, I sanded them flush. Much better.

On the tops of the "shoulder" pieces, there was a significant gap above the "arm", as well as an ugly, uneven edge. Can't have that.

Again, cardstock came to the rescue. Also in this picture, I used the same plastic to seal off the inside of the heel parts. They were otherwise totally hollow, and this was an easy fix.

Other uses for cardstock/scrap plastic:

Adding missing detail to the front of the legs...

And covering some difficult to reach seams.

After that, all the excess plastic was sanded flush.

At this point, I checked the alignment of the legs to see if further modification of the hips was necessary. The stance is a bit stiff, but I'm cool with it for now.

As a final modification, I drilled out all the gun barrels on the torso and head mounted guns.

Notice that I left the torso in two sections, front and back. I did this to make painting some of the details easier.

Speaking of which, next up is paint!

 

 

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Posted by SLW 45 on Thursday, July 22, 2010 6:56 PM

Looking very good

What you got planed for paint

                 

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Posted by Phil_H on Thursday, July 22, 2010 11:38 PM

Nice detail work CJ, she's coming along nicely. Yes

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Posted by Cosmic J on Wednesday, July 28, 2010 1:11 AM

Phil_H

Nice detail work CJ, she's coming along nicely.

 Thank you. I’m enjoying it – it’s a fairly easy yet well engineered kit, which makes for a hassle free build.

 

SLW 45

Looking very good

What you got planed for paint

Here, let me show you. Big Smile

 Painting started with the detail parts that would need to be masked before putting on the base color. I used Testor’s Model  Master enamels for almost everything on this build.

I wanted a reddish-brown for the cover of the missile launchers located on either side of the “head”, and waffled between Burnt Sienna and Military Brown – the Military Brown won out.

 Now, for this kit, I wanted a strong definition between the highlights and shadows – to give the impression of large size and mass, but also to try to copy the paint scheme on the box cover. To that end, when I post-shaded all the colors, I used a high ratio of burnt umber mixed w/ the base, at about a 50/50 ratio. As it turns out, the contrast wasn’t nearly as strong as I thought it would be…

 The main guns have some inset stripe-type things on them. These were painted Black, and the I post-highlighted the upper surfaces of them by mixing Neutral Grey w/ the base, at about 25%. Again, not as much contrast as I thought.

 For the “eye”, I first airbrushed the whole area Dark Red mixed w/ Black, and then Bright Red in the center. I then mixed a little Chrome Yellow into the red, and sprayed a small spot right in the middle. I kept mixing more yellow in, and painting a smaller and smaller area until I reached the limits of my airbrush. It’s not perfect, but I think it looks good enough.

Front openings in the feet were sprayed Jet Exhaust, as was the inside of the main gun barrels. Neither was shaded, as I liked the way the paint looked already.

 

 

The spotlight was first undercoated w/ Anthracite Grey, then painted Steel, followed by a Gunmetal shadow tone sprayed around the edges, w/ some Silver highlighting in the center.

When all that paint was dry, I masked everything off w/ Tamiya masking tape. I also masked the contact points where I would be putting liquid cement later. For such a small kit, there sure was a lot of masking.

Notice that I left the upper hull in two sections. This was to make painting and masking some parts easier, like the missile covers and the eye, but also because the head piece sits on top of the hull, and painting and shading underneath there w/ an airbrush would have been almost impossible otherwise.  Also, the head mounted machine guns are fitted into place from the inside, and I wanted to avoid dry brushing metallics in so confined an area when painting them.

Masking done, I airbrushed the whole model Dark Tan. I was worried there might not be enough difference between the Military Brown and the Dark Tan, but it looks okay.

Then I began shading the base color. First, I mixed Burnt Umber w/ the base to get a shadow tone, and airbrushed this all over the undersides of all the parts.

Then I mixed Raw Umber w/ the base, and airbrushed the highlights on the undersides, and all the vertical surfaces. The vertical surfaces were then highlighted w/ the base color, and the upper horizontal surfaces were highlighted by mixing Armor Sand into the base and spraying the inside of some panels, like the top if the auxiliary missile launcher, the searchlight and the head. At this point, the effect is more subtle than I had hoped…

 Then I removed the masks to see how everything looked. Unfortunately the paint on the face of the spotlight was ruined - for some reason, the gluey backing from my Tamiya tape stuck to the paint, and couldn’t be removed without pulling up the metallic colors too. So I just tossed the light in some paint stripper and started over.

That done, I fitted the head into place, and glued the two halves of the upper hull together. I then masked the missle covers to keep them from getting damaged during sanding.

 The seam between the parts was carefully removed, and the paint process was repeated to cover up the repair. I’m liking it now.

 

Time to do a little work on the base…

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Posted by Phil_H on Wednesday, July 28, 2010 1:20 AM

Shame about the spotlight. I dread masking over metallics,  good that you got it sorted though.

I wonder if we can rustle up enough members who might be interest ed in a Macross GB.... ??

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Posted by Cosmic J on Wednesday, July 28, 2010 1:39 AM

Yeah, but it was an easy fix. I did remember to seal it w/ Testor's Glosscote before masking the second time though. Big Smile

Group build could be very cool. Would it be bad if I just build another one of these? I see so many little things I could have done better...

One of those new 1/48 Valkyries would be cool too, just need to save up a bit first. Cool

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Posted by Phil_H on Wednesday, July 28, 2010 1:59 AM

No reason why you can't build another one. We just don't see much Macross stuff being built these days, so the more the better.. Big Smile

Even if we don't do it as a GB, maybe we should just start churning them out... LOL.

I have a 1/5000 SDF-1 (attack mode) which I pull out every now and then and think about building.

And yes. a 1/48 Valk would be very nice.... Big Smile

I just recently finished an  Arii 1/100 VF-1J made up of someone's previously started build and some leftover parts. The paint job ran away from me a little though and it was just one of theose "get it done and out of the way" efforts.

Hopedully the decals with your Tomahawk will be better than the quarter century old ones that I had. No adhesion problems or cracking (except when over-maniputlated) but they took a very long time to release from the backing (some 5+ mins) They went on (mostly) ok though.

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Posted by Cosmic J on Wednesday, July 28, 2010 2:33 AM

Cool. I think the next on I'll do in green - Israeli armor green and olive drab might look neat.

I also have a 1/100 Destroid Defender kit by Arii, but I am not impressed by it.

I wouldn't mind seeing either that SDF-1 or the VF-1. I see those VFs at reasonable prices now and again, are they worth getting?

Decals on this were actually a bit of a problem, but I'll get to that. Big Smile

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Posted by Phil_H on Wednesday, July 28, 2010 9:14 AM

Cosmic J
I see those VFs at reasonable prices now and again, are they worth getting?

Though they are unmistakably VF-1 Valkyries, to my eye, they have some dimensional issues. I'm not enamoured by the nose/ forward fuse, which seems to be too narrow, too shallow  and the nose cone too long and pointed. Panel lines are engraved and quite deep.

Parts fit isn't great -  a certain amount of filing. sanding and filling to be done to get it to look presentable.

Back in the '80's when they were $4.00-$5.00, well, you got what you paid for - I wouldn't want to be paying much more than that for them now. If you want a "fighter mode" Valk, the Hasegawa kits can't be beat.

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Posted by SteelSnail on Wednesday, July 28, 2010 1:24 PM

Cosmic J

I’m not a fan of the Phalanx design. The "arms" are a bit too big for my taste – they overwhelm the rest of the kit. However, I was thinking I could use the legs and body from that model as replacements on my Defender kit, which really suffers in those areas. If you have pictures of the Phalanx parts, I wouldn’t mind seeing them.

No problem. I'll take some pictures when I get home although, if memory doesn't fail me, they are similar or identical.

I really like how it is turning out. Thanks for sharing how you dealt with the seams in the guns/arms.

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Posted by SLW 45 on Wednesday, July 28, 2010 7:03 PM

J Love the way it is looking

Now I am waiting on the base knowing your past work it will be something

Why arent there SI FI group builds  MaKs would be another good one Gundams

there are alot of great kits in this catagory 

Heck just a Si Fi group buld could really be fun

                 

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Posted by Gunpla Master on Wednesday, July 28, 2010 10:20 PM

Just look @ U, slipped one in and I was not watching, been busy else where as you know.  Really like what you are doing with this and as everyone else has said, this is tha BOMB!

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Posted by Gunpla Master on Wednesday, July 28, 2010 10:25 PM

SLW 45

J Love the way it is looking

Now I am waiting on the base knowing your past work it will be something

Why arent there SI FI group builds  MaKs would be another good one Gundams

there are alot of great kits in this catagory 

Heck just a Si Fi group buld could really be fun

SLW 45 if'n we sweet talk Cosmic J, we might get him to build a Ma.k in the future as a WIP too.  Watch this fella, he is humble, but he is a master builder with much to teach!  I for one am a fan of his and I too would like to see a Sci-Fi Group Build here, regardless of the subject, something simple so the younglings could join in too.  Sorry f/hi-jacking your thread Comsic J, but since I buttered ya soooo goood, I figured U wouldn't mind.  GM

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Posted by SLW 45 on Thursday, July 29, 2010 8:58 PM

Oh yes

Cosmic J you really need to do some more MaK

Bow Down

                 

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Posted by Cosmic J on Sunday, August 1, 2010 1:22 AM
SteelSnail
Cosmic J:
I’m not a fan of the Phalanx design. The "arms" are a bit too big for my taste – they overwhelm the rest of the kit. However, I was thinking I could use the legs and body from that model as replacements on my Defender kit, which really suffers in those areas. If you have pictures of the Phalanx parts, I wouldn’t mind seeing them.
No problem. I'll take some pictures when I get home although, if memory doesn't fail me, they are similar or identical.
I really like how it is turning out. Thanks for sharing how you dealt with the seams in the guns/arms.

 

Cool, and Thank you. Big Smile

 

 

SLW 45

J Love the way it is looking

Now I am waiting on the base knowing your past work it will be something

Why arent there SI FI group builds  MaKs would be another good one Gundams

there are alot of great kits in this catagory 

Heck just a Si Fi group buld could really be fun

 We’ve tried a couple of Sci-Fi GBs in the last couple of years. The Star Wars one went well, but the others mostly fizzled. When I want a GB badge, I usually find a way to finagle a Sci-fi kit into a “regular” GB as a “what-if” kind of thing. It never hurts to try though… Smile

 

Gunpla Master

Just look @ U, slipped one in and I was not watching, been busy else where as you know.  Really like what you are doing with this and as everyone else has said, this is tha BOMB!

 Heh!  Thank you.

 

Gunpla Master
SLW 45:
J Love the way it is looking
Now I am waiting on the base knowing your past work it will be something
Why arent there SI FI group builds  MaKs would be another good one Gundams
there are alot of great kits in this catagory 
Heck just a Si Fi group buld could really be fun
SLW 45 if'n we sweet talk Cosmic J, we might get him to build a Ma.k in the future as a WIP too.  Watch this fella, he is humble, but he is a master builder with much to teach!  I for one am a fan of his and I too would like to see a Sci-Fi Group Build here, regardless of the subject, something simple so the younglings could join in too.  Sorry f/hi-jacking your thread Comsic J, but since I buttered ya soooo goood, I figured U wouldn't mind.  GM

 

Aw man, I don't know. I’ve built a lot of MaKs over the last few years… I’m kind of in a Capital Ships phase right now (this kit was originally intended as a one month only sort of thing…).

 Maybe. You set it up, and I’ll see about jumping in. No promises though. Smile

 

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Posted by Cosmic J on Sunday, August 1, 2010 1:46 AM

 Okay, on to the base. Originally, this was going to be just a quickie build – something lightweight and fast  in between more complicated models – so I didn’t plan anything too complex for a display.

Instead of cutting a piece of wood or plastic, I just went into the spares box. A few years ago, I bought these ready made bases from Kotobukia/Modeling Support Goods. I was going to put a MaK or two on them, but never got around to it.

I also had Hasegawa’s U.S. Pilot / Ground Crew set – I bought it specifically to get the pilot figures for a sci-fi attack helicopter kit, but the other figures might look interesting w/ this model. They’re the wrong scale, but I think they look close enough that only a die-hard Macross fan would notice.

I started by assembling and cleaning up a couple of the figures, and then drilling holes in their feet for thin brass rods. Unfortunately, I broke one of my last drill bits off inside the one figures leg. Sad  Unable to retrieve it, I drilled into the other leg…

I painted the edges of the base flat black, and then push fit the model together to get an idea how much space I have to work with, and where things might go. I liked this setup – the one figure guiding the mech, and another walking alongside checking something on the foot while ducking the swinging arm – so I drilled some holes for the rods and put them in place temporarily – this is what it looked like:

 

Now, from my hazy memories, these Destroids were stationed on the SDF-1, and the SDF-1 was partially constructed from aircraft carriers (I think)… so I decided to paint the base like a carrier deck. I looked at some carrier models in back issues of Finescale for inspiration.

I started by masking the edges, then sprayed a fairly even coat of Camouflage Grey mixed 50/50 with Light Sea Grey. Then I masked off some stripes, and put down some dry transfer numbers.

I then painted the surface Aircraft Interior Black. After that, I added some random light spots by mixing neutral grey into the black and spraying some cloud like shapes in random patterns around where the mech will be standing. I removed the tape and the transfers before the paint had completely dried. This is what I came up w/:

 I don’t like it. I’m right on the edge of tossing it in the paint stripper and starting over. What do you guys think of it?

While I was mulling over repainting the base, I painted the various gun barrels. Flat black for a base coat, then a heavy drybrush of Jet Exhaust. The machine guns were fitted into the head from inside the arm hole, and fixed in place w/ a drop of superglue.

Next, I sprayed the kit w/ a layer of Glosscote to prep for decaling. It’s interesting how the clear layer changed the look of the painted surface – I’m liking it more now.

 Since this was only a $6 kit, I expected the decals to give me some trouble. They were very thick and glossy, so I lightly sanded them w/ an 800 grit sanding stick to take some of the shine off.

Then I went to apply them, and knew I was in trouble when they began to silver as soon as they hit the water, while still on the backing paper…

I got the decals into position with some Microset solution, and then hit them hard w/ Microsol. They still silvered. So I re-coated them w/ more Microsol  - each application seemed to reduce the silvering a little, so I just kept hitting them. Some had as many as 8 applications applied over the course of three days, but it worked, almost all the silvering disappeared. Man, I really like that stuff.

Considering how much trouble the other makings gave me, the D7 decal on the rounded section gave me no grief at all. Went down perfect right away. I am quite pleased. Cool

Once all that was dry, I mixed up an enamel wash – 1 part each of Black, Burnt Umber and Dark Tan, to about 20 parts thinner. I used this mix to accent panel lines and other surface details like rivets. I then set it aside to dry for a few days. It's a little bit heavy in places, but i expect the next step to tone it down some.

 Almost done…

 

 

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Posted by SLW 45 on Sunday, August 1, 2010 12:38 PM

Man that is looking great

and the guys guiding it out to battel or whatever is awsome

Cant wait to see this finished Bow Down

                 

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Posted by Gunpla Master on Sunday, August 1, 2010 2:16 PM

You just keep on impressing me.  I just love it when I see someone go outside the box and try different things to come up with a build, just as you are doing here.  I noticed the drill bit, I want a set of those, but the $ tag keeps backing me down.  Maybe for that special Birthday Gift I always seem to get myself ea. year.  " Embarrassed did I sat that", come on, you know you do it, oh honey don't worry about buying me anything for my BD, use your money to buy you sum thingConfused  Then I go and get what I want, hey you are never disappointed you did not get that kit or new tool you have been lusting for all year. LOL  Oh no I might be corrupting someoneIndifferent.  No I usually let her know what my intent is, keeps peace, when mommy is happy, the house is happy.  Looking forward to more Cosmic J.  Captial Ships huh, arn't you just the talented one!Bow Down

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Posted by SteelSnail on Sunday, August 1, 2010 5:21 PM

It's looking great. I don't know what is it about the base that you didn't like. 

I'm feeling embarrassed because I generally don't put that much effort into sci-fi kits Embarrassed

I had some problems with my camara so I had to take the pictures with my cell phone, which is not bleeding edge one:

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Posted by Cosmic J on Wednesday, August 4, 2010 9:27 PM

Thanks guys, I really appreciate the support. You make the effort of posting worth it. Cool

GM: I got the drill bits from Micro Mark about 10 years ago. They were an odd lot of used but resharpened carbide drill bits. They were actually really cheap at the time. Maybe you could find some there for a reasonable price - if you do, let me know, I just busted my last one. Big Smile

 

SteelSnail: Thanks for posting those. The resolution and especially the size were just what I needed. Those leg parts are indeed similar to those in the Defender kit, only much cleaner and better detailed - I ordered one today.

I'm sorry man. It wasn't my intent to make anyone feel bad - I just thought I'd share some of the basic techniques I use to make simple kits a little better looking. Just because I develop OCD every time I build a kit doesn't mean you should feel obligated to. Big Smile

I don't like the base because I don't think it looks like the deck of a carrier. To me, it looks more like the side of a road. The dotted lines are too long and wide, and the numbers are too small. It could also use another color, like maybe some yellow and black emergency striping or something.

I don't know, I'm going to wait until i finish the kit, and then see if I'm okay w/ it.Right now, I'm leaning towards a repaint - its real easy to do, the whole paint job on the base only took about an hour.

 

 

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Posted by SteelSnail on Thursday, August 5, 2010 3:51 PM

A good drill bit set is well worth it, IMHO.

Glad to hear the pictures were useful.

And well, let's just say that thanks to your OCD I'm learning a lot, so don't stop.Oh wait, you can't, right? that's what OCD is all about, ha, ha, ha.

I see your point with the base. It does gives the impression of being a road.

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Posted by Gunpla Master on Saturday, August 7, 2010 9:44 AM

Good morning CosmicJ, I thought that is where I saw the drills the 1st time but forgot about.  I will look into, did find a set thru a web site but lets just say the fella thought they were gold and I in noway would pay what he wanted, much like kits, everyone thinks their is worth more!  Just wondering where U @ on this, want to see that beast standing on the flight deck!Surprise

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Posted by Cosmic J on Saturday, August 7, 2010 10:12 PM

SteelSnail

A good drill bit set is well worth it, IMHO.

Glad to hear the pictures were useful.

And well, let's just say that thanks to your OCD I'm learning a lot, so don't stop.Oh wait, you can't, right? that's what OCD is all about, ha, ha, ha.

 

 Surprise Aawww man, I see how you are. Making fun of a man for his foibles. That's just mean, man. Mean.

Wink Big Smile

I see your point with the base. It does gives the impression of being a road.

 

Thanks man. I'm glad someone sees it besides me. I tossed it into some paint stripper to start again. The next time it should look better.

 

 

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Posted by SLW 45 on Sunday, August 8, 2010 7:08 PM

Waiting on the next time Whistling

                 

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