You know what, Gerry, I ended up getting frustrated and stopping. I got them done ok on the engines. The secondary hull is also done, but the lines there are very faint. I quit on the saucer after several abortive attempts. I'm just going to finish it up where it's at and call it good.
I WILL say, I checked out your Reliant thread and I am very impressed with how you did yours. I will have to try that on my next build. I have the Polar Lights 1/1000 Enterprise in my stash yet, so maybe when I pull that out we'll give it a try again. I'm working on decals now-hope to be able to post up finished pics in a week or so.